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Dave Martell
02-06-2013, 10:46 PM
Every time someone posts a Jay Fisher chef's knife I see Pakistani knife in my mind, they just have that look. So I'm surfing ebay and come across something that blows my mind.....



Pakistan Ebay Special.....
$39.99

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Custom-Made-Handmade-J2-High-Carbon-Steel-Chef-Knife-Kitchen-Knife-SE-44100-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$T2eC16ZHJHgE9n0yG+fMBQ9DlNzlOw~~60_57.JPG




Jay Fisher Custom chef's knife....
$

http://www.jayfisher.com/_borders/FOSaussureArgentinaAgate2.jpg



:D

knyfeknerd
02-06-2013, 10:49 PM
I must have one!!!
Does the Pakistani one feature a Coprolite handle too?
I think if you play connect-the-dots with the holes, it's a picture of a penis!

Dave Martell
02-06-2013, 10:52 PM
Here's another one....


Pakistani

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Custom-Hand-Made-J2-High-Carbon-Steel-Chef-Knife-Kitchen-Knife-SE-51100-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqFHJFQFDy13Jlh2BQ8u(0oIE!~~60_57.JPG



Jay Fisher

http://www.jayfisher.com/_borders/FOVitruvius-VegaMonzonite1.jpg

knyfeknerd
02-06-2013, 10:55 PM
The sincerest form of flattery???

Dave Martell
02-06-2013, 10:56 PM
Pakistani (but in Damascus) $59.99 :D

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Custom-Made-Handmade-Damascus-Steel-Chef-Knife-Kitchen-Knife-SE-46200-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqZ,!qgFCruy4EMHBQ8hudjM-!~~60_57.JPG




Jay Fisher

http://www.jayfisher.com/_borders/FOCybeleUnakite1.jpg

mainaman
02-06-2013, 10:59 PM
apart from the question, how are those blades practical?
Or are they for decoration only?

Dave Martell
02-06-2013, 11:00 PM
apart from the question, how are those blades practical?
Or are they for decoration only?


I think the holes are for grating cheese?

steeley
02-06-2013, 11:05 PM
:rofl2:Wow ! buy a hundred of each and dump them on the market put some story behind it
The forging process is so precision only a true master can create those holes
The more holes the better the knife .
only $129 and free sharpening tips .

sudsy9977
02-06-2013, 11:08 PM
So are what you're saying is that jay is Pakistani?....ryan

Dave Martell
02-06-2013, 11:11 PM
So are what you're saying is that jay is Pakistani?....ryan


Well....no.....but it appears that they have similar styles. :D

DevinT
02-06-2013, 11:17 PM
Congrats to Jay. I'm jealous that they haven't copied my stuff.

Hoss

Lefty
02-06-2013, 11:24 PM
I wonde what the Pakistani guys could pull off with real steel an designs. The work looks great, for what it is....

JohnnyChance
02-07-2013, 12:50 AM
I wonde what the Pakistani guys could pull off with real steel an designs. The work looks great, for what it is....

I used to be on an off roader forum and there was a group of guys from Pakistan that would post work from their shop. All they basically had was an oxy acetylene torch and hand tools like hammers and such. They loved old FJ cruisers, but couldn't afford them. So they would take the bodies off Jeeps and just make all new sheetmetal so it looked just like an FJ. And they made everything, trim, door handles, little bits and pieces, everything. And it looked great. Better than some of the work other shops were cranking out with all the cool tools you could ever want.

apicius9
02-07-2013, 02:23 AM
Cool, maybe Mr Fisher is only doing rehandles, add him to our list :)

Stefan

Don Nguyen
02-07-2013, 10:26 AM
If Jay kept his knives simple, they'd be pretty killer.

Pensacola Tiger
02-07-2013, 10:51 AM
Congrats to Jay. I'm jealous that they haven't copied my stuff.

Hoss

Just make a few minor changes, Hoss, like this:

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/Pensacola_Tiger/Misc%20Photos/file_zpsb8067759.jpg

mr drinky
02-07-2013, 11:25 AM
That's a good one Rick.

And Dave, first of all those first two knives are no where near the same. One has 23 holes and the other has 22. Completely different.

Btw, I know in Indonesia, expats will regularly take take pictures of furniture from catalogs or magazines and the woodworkers there will replicate it. I've heard the same thing happening with shoes in the Philippines. It could be that some expat or soldier in Pakistan asked the person to copy his knives, and now he reproduces them for eBay.

k.

franzb69
02-07-2013, 11:28 AM
I've heard the same thing happening with shoes in the Philippines. It could be that some expat or soldier in Pakistan asked the person to copy his knives, and now he reproduces them for eBay.

the philippines thing is usually a bunch of chinese business owners taking advantage of the skilled workers that my country has and copying other people's work and passing them off as the real thing.

Lefty
02-07-2013, 11:29 AM
I can't wait until people actually start asking about the DT gyuto with holes in it. Haha. Nice!

Twistington
02-07-2013, 11:37 AM
The DT has alot of material left for some more holes, just look at the tip and heel... would be easy to fit 10-15 holes in there.

El Pescador
02-07-2013, 02:03 PM
Just make a few minor changes, Hoss, like this:

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/Pensacola_Tiger/Misc%20Photos/file_zpsb8067759.jpg

I'm really excited about this...maybe we can put together a forum buy!

Korin_Mari
02-07-2013, 02:22 PM
Do the holes serve any purpose? Is it to prevent ingredients from sticking and does it actually work?

labor of love
02-07-2013, 02:30 PM
Do the holes serve any purpose? Is it to prevent ingredients from sticking and does it actually work?

it makes the knife more aerodynamic, like a ferrari.

JohnnyChance
02-07-2013, 02:45 PM
it makes the knife more aerodynamic, like a ferrari.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XVV_COOey0E

jayhay
02-07-2013, 02:52 PM
Whatever both the makers are taking, I want some. **** is a trip.

labor of love
02-07-2013, 04:44 PM
http://imageshack.us/a/img13/8980/sillyknife.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/sillyknife.jpg/)
fishers work with serrated knives is almost revolutionary too. surprised no ones mentioned it.

Dave Martell
02-07-2013, 05:16 PM
fishers work with serrated knives is almost revolutionary too. surprised no ones mentioned it.


I don't care for the handle but I'll admit that the serration pattern is interesting enough that I'd like to try it.

DevinT
02-07-2013, 10:40 PM
Just make a few minor changes, Hoss, like this:

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/Pensacola_Tiger/Misc%20Photos/file_zpsb8067759.jpg

Rick, you funny, you funny boy. I almost wet my pants.

Thanks bro.

Hoss

G-rat
02-07-2013, 10:43 PM
Has anybody actually used one of these? Not meant in a snide "...why would we make fun of something like this sort of way..." at all. They look ridiculous as working knives...but has anybody actually used one?

DevinT
02-07-2013, 10:57 PM
Jay is a very good knife maker and his work is very clean. Stone handles are heavy but very beautiful. Jay's knives are more art knives than working knives IMO. I like his stuff but would never use it in the kitchen.

Hoss

labor of love
02-07-2013, 11:23 PM
im just having fun. no disrespect intended.

K-Fed
02-08-2013, 12:57 AM
These have come up before and remembered this little jem.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/LetsKillKevy/nN6Q.jpg

Isn't it nice when the butt of the handle hits the board when you finish your cut. He could put one of Guy's knuckle sammich garlic smashers on there and you could chop and smash at the same time! ;x After a couple sharpenings you'd have to grind down the handle to keep the heel of the knife in contact with the board.

labor of love
02-08-2013, 01:17 AM
i searched for his knives on ebay. many of them are priced as high as $2500. i cant figure out how much they sell for, but as for as display pieces go-many of his knives are quite nice actually.

Sara@JKI
02-08-2013, 07:02 PM
I think the holes are for grating cheese?

the best phrase of the day.... Dave, you made my day!

ThEoRy
02-08-2013, 08:01 PM
These have come up before and remembered this little jem.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/LetsKillKevy/nN6Q.jpg

Isn't it nice when the butt of the handle hits the board when you finish your cut. He could put one of Guy's knuckle sammich garlic smashers on there and you could chop and smash at the same time! ;x After a couple sharpenings you'd have to grind down the handle to keep the heel of the knife in contact with the board.


Not to mention the back portion of the blade may become unusable while cutting certain products due to the extra long bolster interference.

sel1k1
02-08-2013, 08:44 PM
bread and cheese knives at their finest. museum quality :D

mhlee
02-08-2013, 08:50 PM
:rofl2:Wow ! buy a hundred of each and dump them on the market put some story behind it
The forging process is so precision only a true master can create those holes
The more holes the better the knife .
only $129 and free sharpening tips .

And open up a shop in Santa Monica selling such knives? I think it's already been done.



(This is a joke.)

Dave Martell
02-08-2013, 09:14 PM
And open up a shop in Santa Monica selling such knives? I think it's already been done.



(This is a joke.)


Yes.....yes it is :D

http://www.westsidesharpening.com/files/rhinochopvegetable.jpg

steeley
02-08-2013, 10:35 PM
:haha4: that was good.

DevinT
02-08-2013, 11:07 PM
So now it begs the question, what will be the next big idea or improvement to kitchen cutlery?

Hoss

Igasho
02-08-2013, 11:09 PM
a cleaver that can count cards? :P *born and raised in Reno NV*

Kelson
02-09-2013, 05:17 AM
a knife that can be used as a plate...

RRLOVER
02-09-2013, 09:55 AM
So now it begs the question, what will be the next big idea or improvement to kitchen cutlery?

Hoss

After viewing a Snoody video recently it concreted my personal belief that there is no reason to re-invent the wheel.What separates kitchen blades and "collector blades" is that some people will be using our blades in there trade to make a living.If a carpenter had this really cool hammer but it could not pound a nail worth a crap what good is it for his trade.Knife makers can get as "artsy" as they want but in the long run we need to make a tool that performs first and if she's pretty that's a bonus.......

Lucretia
02-09-2013, 12:30 PM
So now it begs the question, what will be the next big idea or improvement to kitchen cutlery?

Hoss

One of these (http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/e26d/?rkgid=275668648&cpg=ogpla&source=google_pla&gclid=CI_Gj6XSqbUCFU1yQgodr3AAZQ). With a wa handle.

Pensacola Tiger
02-10-2013, 01:55 PM
I happened to be in Williams-Sonoma yesterday and saw this beauty by Wüsthof.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/Pensacola_Tiger/Misc%20Photos/file_zps9267e500.jpg

James
02-10-2013, 02:16 PM
I guess after enough sharpenings, you can turn it into a serrated knife

knyfeknerd
02-10-2013, 02:55 PM
After viewing a Snoody video recently it concreted my personal belief that there is no reason to re-invent the wheel.What separates kitchen blades and "collector blades" is that some people will be using our blades in there trade to make a living.If a carpenter had this really cool hammer but it could not pound a nail worth a crap what good is it for his trade.Knife makers can get as "artsy" as they want but in the long run we need to make a tool that performs first and if she's pretty that's a bonus.......
Thanks for bringing this up Mario.
What good is a knife if it doesn't get used? I'm fine with my knife looking beautiful, but it's no good if it doesn't perform.
I'm hard on my knives and might pass something over if I think it's too "high maintenance" for work.
Not that I like Mr. Fisher's knives, but could you imagine cleaning out all those glory holes every time you used you knife?
My hat is off to him for creating something he and others like, but it's impractical for me.

ThEoRy
02-10-2013, 04:23 PM
13178

Crothcipt
02-10-2013, 06:04 PM
One of these (http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/e26d/?rkgid=275668648&cpg=ogpla&source=google_pla&gclid=CI_Gj6XSqbUCFU1yQgodr3AAZQ). With a wa handle.

+1000

Crothcipt
02-10-2013, 06:13 PM
I have bought a few knives from Pakistan and the only thing I can say about them is.... well you really don't get what you pay for.

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/showthread.php/5250-Bowie-vs-Chef?highlight=bowie

I'm sure Randy has some not so kind words about the knives they make too.:spiteful: Altho they do make some good looking knives.