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Dave Martell
04-17-2013, 09:24 PM
Since I've done more a few of these, and have many still waiting to get done, I thought it'd be fun to show them all in one spot instead of having the pictures scattered all over the place.

I haven't photo'd every one that I've done yet this should represent a good portion of the more full blown Hiromoto AS work accomplished - AKA "Full Spa Treatment". I'll just show these, I'll leave out the rehandle only knives, but all the rehandles can be seen in my rehandle gallery HERE (http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/showthread.php/150-Gallery-Western-Re-Handles?p=1154&viewfull=1#post1154).


Let's start off with a before & after shot and go on from there....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010009-6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010013-2.jpg

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=187&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1347424218

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=190&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1347424280

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=193&d=1302114572

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=493&d=1305123501

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=495&d=1305123676



Here's a Hiro AS gyuto in the middle...BEFORE
http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1160&d=1311612204

now AFTER....
http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1161&d=1311612210


http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2345&d=1320865195

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2361&d=1320948180

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2360&d=1320948174
http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2370&d=1320958443


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010006-21.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010023-4.jpg

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2439&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1337835920


http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2468&d=1321737335

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2470&d=1321737358

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2473&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1337835956

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2477&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1337835956



Here's a petty...
http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2820&d=1323128470


http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2890&d=1323537670

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http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2989&d=1324076958

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2991&d=1324076968


http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4416&d=1328902298

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4414&d=1328902287



http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4438&d=1328978413

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http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6147&d=1334606682

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6152&d=1334606707

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6144&d=1334606666

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6146&d=1334606676

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6151&d=1334606703



http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6518&d=1335476328

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6516&d=1335476318

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6519&d=1335476334






http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6764&d=1336164056

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http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6767&d=1336164070



Another BEFORE...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010003-30.jpg

with it's AFTER....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010002-20.jpg

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9165&d=1345069328

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9159&d=1345069298



Another petty...
http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10181&d=1348422706

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10179&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1348422692

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10183&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1348422718

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10185&d=1348422733

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10186&d=1348422741



http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11082&d=1351956682

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11075&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1351956636

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http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11081&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1351956675

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11084&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1351956695



Well that's it for now. More to come as they get done.... :)

JohnnyChance
04-17-2013, 09:33 PM
Why are the petty's lamination lines so different?

Dave Martell
04-17-2013, 09:35 PM
Why are the petty's lamination lines so different?

I have no idea...just the way it is unfortunately.

unkajonet
04-17-2013, 09:45 PM
I REALLY like the one in the second pic...

turbochef422
04-17-2013, 10:06 PM
I'm excited to get mine bc I haven't used it yet so it'll feel like Christmas

NO ChoP!
04-17-2013, 10:41 PM
Sweet!

marc4pt0
04-18-2013, 01:03 AM
Man, when I see your work giving these Hiromotos the full goods, it Always make me consider getting one. naturally I would want to tweak it myself first, than after making a mess of things I'd send out to you. That's how I see that going down...

apicius9
04-18-2013, 01:12 AM
Ooohh, I think mine is still with you, hope to see more pics here soon ;)

stefan

echerub
04-18-2013, 01:12 AM
Wowza! Man, they look *great*! Love the contrast right at the lamination line and the "middle shade" right above it. Combined with the matte cladding and darkened hagane, the end result is some serious eye-candy.

markenki
04-18-2013, 01:24 AM
I never tire of looking at these knives!

joetbn
04-19-2013, 10:45 PM
Great looking work, can't wait to get mine back, I might have to get a suji for you to do so I can have a pair! Or maybe a santoku for my girlfriend.

Mike9
04-19-2013, 11:01 PM
Love the edge treatment Dave - really gorgeous work.

Mrmnms
04-19-2013, 11:04 PM
Those knives really pop Dave. Beautiful .

ThEoRy
04-19-2013, 11:37 PM
Awesome! I have 4 knives in this thread. :D Thanks for the great work Dave!

kinkoz
04-20-2013, 04:48 AM
amazing.........

mkmk
04-20-2013, 04:56 PM
Really beautiful -- nice work!

stereo.pete
04-21-2013, 09:46 PM
I miss mine, that'll be the last time I sell a knife unless it is dire circumstances.

Zwiefel
04-21-2013, 10:07 PM
Amazing work Dave...love the crisp, even bevels on so many of those....damned depressing though!

azchef
04-21-2013, 10:19 PM
What's the handle on the suji sliced ? I love the colors

Dave Martell
04-21-2013, 10:45 PM
What's the handle on the suji sliced ? I love the colors


The red and black one? That's Butch Harner's micarta that he makes.


Thanks for all the kind words guys. :)

ThEoRy
04-21-2013, 11:12 PM
What's the handle on the suji sliced ? I love the colors

Back off, she's mine!! :aikido::nunchucks:

Dave Martell
04-23-2013, 08:16 PM
I just finished up 4 more (for Noah, Justin, Stefan, & Daniel) Hiro AS's tonight - performance packages only done - no handles on these. If I can get my new PC to work with my old camera software I'll post pictures tomorrow.

dharperino
04-23-2013, 09:17 PM
Selfishly speaking, I'm thrilled by Dave's last post. Woohoo! But dang, those new handles look fantastic....

JVoye
04-23-2013, 09:54 PM
:thumbsup: Excellent, this is huge news.

Dave Martell
04-24-2013, 03:45 PM
Here are the 4 Hiromoto AS Performance Package knives that just got done yesterday. Something worth noting is that even though all 4 were done by me exactly the same at the same time they all came out quite different from each other. The oldest of the bunch (Stefan's with the Fish handle) is the most striking, it came with the old school "drippy cladding" that you don't see from them much anymore. Also notice how the left sides look so much different than the right sides on the same knives. You really never know what you'll get from these knives when thinned & etched.

From top to bottom....

Daniel

Stefan

Justin

Noah

Dave Martell
04-24-2013, 03:53 PM
OK this one came out very nice and being that it's got a Fish handle on it I thought that it deserved it's on post.

Time for some drool.... :drool:

apicius9
04-24-2013, 04:06 PM
Great work, Dave! Now, how can I ever use this again without messing up the great look? ;)

Stefan

Dave Martell
04-24-2013, 04:11 PM
Great work, Dave! Now, how can I ever use this again without messing up the great look? ;)

Stefan


Keep it oiled! :bat:

markenki
04-24-2013, 04:30 PM
Very nice!!

JVoye
04-24-2013, 08:37 PM
Amazing stuff Dave, keep up the outstanding work. :thumbsup:

ThEoRy
04-24-2013, 10:48 PM
Great work, Dave! Now, how can I ever use this again without messing up the great look? ;)

Stefan

Just use it and if it gets ****** up, send it back to Dave...

marc4pt0
04-24-2013, 11:13 PM
still simply amazed by these. Really fantastic work!

echerub
04-25-2013, 08:37 AM
Really really beautiful after the spa treatment!

Dave Martell
04-25-2013, 01:14 PM
Thanks again guys, I'm having fun doing these. :)

turbochef422
04-25-2013, 01:26 PM
I herd that doing the spa treatment to sujis are even more fun:D

Dave Martell
04-25-2013, 03:18 PM
I herd that doing the spa treatment to sujis are even more fun:D


I hope so. :doublethumbsup:

jayhay
04-25-2013, 03:38 PM
Wow, these are incredible. Really awesome work. I'm jealous of Rick lol.

The Fish handle is really freaking nice too.

Dave Martell
05-01-2013, 03:24 PM
Here is Nick's suji after the performance package application....

turbochef422
05-01-2013, 04:22 PM
I love it. Can't wait to use it. Thanks Dave!!!

Dave Martell
05-01-2013, 04:23 PM
I love it. Can't wait to use it. Thanks Dave!!!

That's good news to hear. :) I hope that you get lots of good use from it. Thanks for the work Nick.

cnochef
05-01-2013, 06:30 PM
Beautiful work as usual on those Hiromotos Dave. I had to sell my gyuto and suji because I've been out of work for quite a while and needed the money. However, when I'm flush again, replacing them is a priority.

marc4pt0
05-05-2013, 11:11 PM
I'd love to see one of these guys after they've some major use. Curious as to how it would look, and if a patina will make it that much more sexy...

Dave Martell
05-09-2013, 02:05 PM
This is a Hiromoto AS 240mm gyuto with new handle freshly installed & performance packaged applied. The kanji stamping was very light to begin with so I lost some in the thinning of the blade, it was simply unavoidable. :( The left side shows a unique banding of some sort within the steel. I have no idea what this is but it appeared almost instantly when I starting grinding and became more apparent as I went along. This is another case of not having any idea of what the finished result will be on these knives. I do hope that the owner likes it even with it's unique attributes.

The scales are dyed Oregon maple (wood from Burl Source).

Joe is a musician and asked that I include some brass so we went with brass liners, brass pins, with the middle pin showing a lucky 4 leaf clover. :)

joetbn
05-09-2013, 02:51 PM
Dave, I love it, looks great! The light kanji and banding just make it look a little older is all. I think the brass pins and spacers will look even better as they patina. Very nice work. :D

Dave Martell
05-09-2013, 05:35 PM
Dave, I love it, looks great! The light kanji and banding just make it look a little older is all. I think the brass pins and spacers will look even better as they patina. Very nice work. :D

Joe, maybe you can shoot some pics for me after the brass starts to turn, I'd love to see this.

Thanks for your business and enjoy your refurbed knife. :)

Dave

Dave Martell
05-09-2013, 05:42 PM
Here is Justin's Hiromoto AS 240mm gyuto with some modifications...

1. Full to hidden tang conversion.

2. Rehandled with straight grain ironwood (from Burl Source) and a single mosaic pin

3. Performance Package (thin, sharpen & etch blade) + round spine & choil


I sure do love me some ironwood! :)

Burl Source
05-09-2013, 09:10 PM
Beautiful work Dave!
Both of them.
I really really like your stick tang western handle.

Dave Martell
05-09-2013, 10:23 PM
Thanks Mark. Hey if you get any more of this ironwood PLEASE holla my way, OK? :)

JVoye
05-09-2013, 11:45 PM
:bigeek: Incredible! This is truly a piece of art Dave, unreal. Love the Ironwood, works great with the overall concept. It's great to come home from a long day in the kitchen and see this, thank you. :happyyes:

turbochef422
05-09-2013, 11:47 PM
Save me a piece for the shig!!!!!! :bliss:

Dave Martell
05-10-2013, 01:02 AM
:bigeek: Incredible! This is truly a piece of art Dave, unreal. Love the Ironwood, works great with the overall concept. It's great to come home from a long day in the kitchen and see this, thank you. :happyyes:


I've been waiting for you to show. I'm glad that you like it Justin, you should have it in hand in just a few days.

Thanks for the work!
Dave

stopbarking
05-10-2013, 01:49 AM
Wow that cladding is crazy! It looks like a Tron derezzing.

mkmk
05-10-2013, 05:55 PM
That's my favorite yet -- very nice work! Love the clean lines, and I much prefer that handle over the stock design. And nothing beats ironwood for simple elegance.

Dave Martell
05-10-2013, 08:52 PM
Thanks guys. :)

Dave Martell
05-29-2013, 11:41 AM
These two belong to Samit, two very different knives from the same maker, performance package (thinned, etched, spine/choil rounding, sharpening) done.

You can clearly see that you get what you get when you etch these knives. Oh and in case you're wondering the big boy is a 300mm wa-gyuto - what a beast!

Two things about the gyuto....the kanji came off instantly (I could have probably removed it with Scothbrite - very lame etch job) and that was a bummer. The surface of the stainless cladding looks rough textured but is as smooth as silk. I learned a awhile ago that the pre and post treatment is what makes the job.

I hope you like them Samit! :)

ThEoRy
05-29-2013, 01:36 PM
It's got that "pear skin" look. Nice!!

Dave Martell
05-30-2013, 11:08 AM
Here is Mark's 240mm Hiromoto gytuo with it's new handle installed. :cool2:

The knife has been converted from full to hidden tang, the handle is made from premium koa (supplied by Burl Source), single mosaic pin, and copper spacer. The blade has been thinned, etched, spine/choil rounded, and sharpened up.

If this doesn't fulfill your Hiromoto AS fantasies then nothing will. :fanning:

markenki
05-30-2013, 11:25 AM
I guess it will do. :biggrin:

Holy ****, Dave! It looks awesome!! Love the cladding, especially the left side. Thank you so much for all the work you put into this. I know my knives were a pain for some reason, and I'm happy they're finally done! I'm sure you are, too. :laugh:

Dave Martell
05-30-2013, 11:28 AM
I guess it will do. :biggrin:

Holy ****, Dave! It looks awesome!! Love the cladding, especially the left side. Thank you so much for all the work you put into this. I know my knives were a pain for some reason, and I'm happy they're finally done! I'm sure you are, too. :laugh:


Yeah your knives are always a pain in the ass...what's up with that? :D

That's OK though Mark, in the end what's done is done and what results is what matters. You've been real patient and helpful with me along the way and I truly appreciate that. Thank you!

That said.....I hope to never see this knife or the cleaver again. :rofl2:

Dave Martell
05-30-2013, 11:33 AM
Love the cladding, especially the left side.


Funny thing again with these knives, one side is different than the other. I work each side the exact same way yet we see a difference....go figure!?!

samit
05-30-2013, 01:39 PM
that's a borderline phenomenal affect. your knife must be magical

eaglerock
05-30-2013, 02:46 PM
Beautiful :bigeek:

Mr.Magnus
05-30-2013, 03:01 PM
wow mark thats just sick! love it

USC 2012
07-01-2013, 03:18 AM
I can't wait to send mine in 😍

Dave Martell
07-07-2013, 11:36 AM
This is Keith's 240mm Hiromoto AS. Keith did the rehandle and I followed with the performance package spa treatment....

Dave Martell
07-07-2013, 11:38 AM
Here we have Nelson's 240 Hiromoto AS gyuto all spa'd up....

keithsaltydog
07-07-2013, 05:22 PM
Thanks Dave,turned out great.Now I have a really nice blade:biggrin:

Dave Martell
07-07-2013, 05:31 PM
Thanks Dave,turned out great.Now I have a really nice blade:biggrin:

I'm glad that you like it Keith. It'll be back in your hands in no time at all. :)

Dave Martell
09-25-2013, 04:15 PM
Here's another collaboration Hiro....this one belongs to Rick "Theory".

I did the performance package (thin/etch/etc) to the blade and Rick did the rehandle. He sure pushed himself with this handle and considering it's maybe his 2nd or 3rd I'm VERY impressed. He went with what looks like maple or maybe box elder (?), triple liners (!!!), and did the 'ole coke bottle shaping as well!!! Talk about ambitious! I took some extra pictures of the handle to show off, hope you don't mind Rick. :)

Dave Martell
09-25-2013, 04:16 PM
...

tripleq
09-25-2013, 04:26 PM
^^^ Love those spacers Rick!!! ^^^

ThEoRy
09-26-2013, 12:05 AM
^^^ Love those spacers Rick!!! ^^^

Yeah, they look pretty cool, but a bit of a pita. That's where I maybe rushed it a bit. Supposed to wait like 6 hours between glue ups before moving on to the next one but I may have been a bit impatient on one of those steps and you can see where the red bolster spaced slipped a little bit. Also, I didn't do such a clean job on the tang under the handle. It's a trouble spot for me with my limited tools so I just asked Dave to clean her up a little and wow. Awesome! Can't wait to get her back!!

Dave Martell
09-26-2013, 12:29 AM
I'm glad that you like the looks of it Rick. She's a high speed operator for sure now. :)

Dave Martell
09-30-2013, 10:59 AM
I have another Hiromoto Performance Package done, this one belongs to James. I thought for sure that this one was going to turn out plain and clearly that's not the case.

ThEoRy
09-30-2013, 01:16 PM
Clouds!!!! Awesome.

Erilyn75
10-03-2013, 02:58 AM
Gorgeous! It always amazes me how different each knife turns out.

orangehero
12-05-2013, 10:27 PM
I was wondering if you have any tips and suggestions for a hidden tang conversion. How much of the tang do you leave for good balance with a stabilized wood?

Dave Martell
12-05-2013, 11:02 PM
I was wondering if you have any tips and suggestions for a hidden tang conversion. How much of the tang do you leave for good balance with a stabilized wood?


I usually leave about 1/2" past the middle rivet hole.

Dave Martell
12-07-2013, 12:13 PM
Here's another 240mm Hiromoto AS that's had the "Performance Package" (blade thinned, spine/choil rounded, etched, & sharpened) done to it.

cazhpfan
12-13-2013, 09:08 PM
Dear Dave,

If you have a moment, would you mind sharing tips on thinning secondary bevels? Your thinning jobs like great...

I have watched Jon Broida's youtube videos on thinning and feel like I would benefit from more content (videos, forum posts, etc.). Any information/referrals are appreciated.

The Hiros look beautiful!

Thank you ahead of time! :doublethumbsup:

Erilyn75
12-16-2013, 02:52 PM
Oh I can't wait!! So purty

Dave Martell
01-29-2014, 01:51 PM
This customer had a vision....he wanted to do the Hiromoto Performance Package & handle upgrade with a twist - he wanted to pay tribute to the original Handle King - Fish 'n Poi! Of course I jumped on this opportunity.

Am I up to Fish's standards? No...but I did my best and I think Fish would approve.

The handles are made from HI Koa (Fish's #1 wood choice), figured maple, G10 spacers, and mosaic pins. The design of the split woods on an angle came from the customer searching Fish's old pictures of his work.

The gyuto blade was thinned pre-etching but this one didn't give up that great Hiro AS look we all hope for. It does have a very clean look to it though, I hope that makes up for the lack of craziness.

So what do you guys think?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010007_zpsd6363695.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010009_zpsef07954d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010012_zpsf1d63f4d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010017_zpsfc8af324.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010025_zpsb2ffba1a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010026_zps1ede5dc1.jpg

Chef Andy
01-29-2014, 01:57 PM
Wow! Absolutely beautiful. Love the handles.

erikz
01-29-2014, 02:19 PM
Wow. How have I not seen this thread before. Awesome work Dave, amazing upgrade for these knives.

berko
01-29-2014, 03:36 PM
beauty.

Dave Martell
01-29-2014, 04:27 PM
You're too kind, thanks guys. :)

ThEoRy
01-29-2014, 04:40 PM
That's just incredible Dave. Outstanding!

gngrprince
01-29-2014, 05:20 PM
Can't thank Dave enough for these. Been admiring his work from afar for a while and couldn't resist the urge to get involved...

These are clearly works of art and I have to say what a pleasure it's been working with Dave on our little project.

I just hope I can live up to them...

Thanks Dave :thumbsup:

El Pescador
01-29-2014, 05:35 PM
Snap!

Dave Martell
01-29-2014, 06:05 PM
Can't thank Dave enough for these. Been admiring his work from afar for a while and couldn't resist the urge to get involved...

These are clearly works of art and I have to say what a pleasure it's been working with Dave on our little project.

I just hope I can live up to them...

Thanks Dave :thumbsup:


You signed up - awesome! Thanks again for the opportunity to do something different and most importantly to honor Fish's work. :)

Dave Martell
01-29-2014, 06:06 PM
That's just incredible Dave. Outstanding!


Snap!


Thanks guys

apicius9
01-30-2014, 05:03 AM
Ok, I think it's time to give up my title ;)

Stefan

Andrey V
01-30-2014, 06:00 AM
Wow!! That looks cool!
I use many great knives ( like Shigefusa, Teruyasu Fujiwara, Hattori etc) - but i still love and use my Hiromotos AS - i have a Santoku, a Gyuto 240 mm and a Huge limited edition Gyuto 270 mm made of Shirogami 2 - your work looks just amazing! Great treatment, simply outstanding! Hirimoto uses the soft steel for cladding, so it gets scratched easily - but the job you have done and the new finish... This is an ADDED VALUE!!! And handles.. WOW!! Great! i wish i had it...

Chefu
01-30-2014, 07:46 AM
I went back and looked at the archives of the Fish handles and you nailed it. Absolutely stunning work. The owner has to be thrilled!

keithsaltydog
02-07-2014, 04:02 AM
Very cool Dave

Matus
02-24-2014, 04:31 PM
Dave, you make some amazing work with these knives. I would have one question - do you manage to gat that lovely contrast between core and cladding also when the core is stainless? I am just curios ...

Dave Martell
02-24-2014, 05:28 PM
Dave, you make some amazing work with these knives. I would have one question - do you manage to gat that lovely contrast between core and cladding also when the core is stainless? I am just curios ...


The look you get is going to be different with each type of knife because of construction and steels used. I'd guess that if stainless was used as the core steel we'd see something quite different.

mhpr262
02-25-2014, 11:12 AM
What exactly is that "spa treatment"? I read through the whole thread and couldn't find any info .... do you dip the knives into some acid bath? And how does one get that dramatic irregular line between the core and the cladding (I presume it is that)? Does it work only with Hiromotos?

Dave Martell
02-25-2014, 02:28 PM
What exactly is that "spa treatment"? I read through the whole thread and couldn't find any info .... do you dip the knives into some acid bath? And how does one get that dramatic irregular line between the core and the cladding (I presume it is that)? Does it work only with Hiromotos?


Lots of my customers and some of the members call the thinning and etching of the Hiromoto AS knives that I do "spa treatment".

Details:

Blade thinning the knife to the max makes it an even better performer than what it is when new. This service really shows the user what a knife is capable of being.

Blade etching is a chemical process that enhances the appearance of the blade by offering contrast between the high carbon core steel and the mild stainless steel cladding.

The effect that you see from this process on Hiromoto AS knives isn't something that I've seen on any other knife from Japan. There are some that also look great but not quite the same.

mhpr262
02-25-2014, 03:26 PM
It looks really stunning.

In order for the "pseudo hamon" to look that way after grinding away the cladding on a flat stoen the core must be dimpled underneath the layer I presume. I imagine it makes both production cheaper and gives the cladding more surface to adhere to.

orangehero
02-25-2014, 07:41 PM
I don't think it's dimpled as a specific step. When forging layers of steel together they will not be perfectly straight, then when you remove material on a bias the pattern is accentuated.

chefjohnboyardee
02-27-2014, 11:12 AM
CAN'T WAIT FOR MINE! :D

Ok, got it out of my system for the day...

Dave Martell
03-07-2014, 02:35 PM
I just finished up with this one. It's a 240mm Hiromoto AS gyuto that's been thinned, etched, and I installed a new custom handle made from some absolutely killer dyed maple burl from BurlSource. The handle is adorned with red G10 liners and copper pins.

The blade was a strange one, it was thicker at the heal and tip than in the middle. You just never know what you'll get with Hiros. :)

This one belongs to Taro. :cool2:

rodneyat
03-07-2014, 02:40 PM
Looks great Dave! I just sent mine off to you today! Can't wait!

Dave Martell
03-07-2014, 02:50 PM
Looks great Dave! I just sent mine off to you today! Can't wait!


Great, I can't wait. Thanks! :)

orangehero
03-07-2014, 04:33 PM
Would you mind sharing your technique for squaring the rear (and front) of the bolster? Do you do it by eye or do you use a guide?

daddy yo yo
03-07-2014, 04:49 PM
The handle is dropdead gorgeous!!! Dave, really, this is awesome!!!

Dave Martell
03-07-2014, 05:19 PM
Would you mind sharing your technique for squaring the rear (and front) of the bolster? Do you do it by eye or do you use a guide?


The bolster is welded on at the factory and are squared at that time. There are some small weld spots in the corners that need to be filed down though.

Dave Martell
03-07-2014, 05:19 PM
The handle is dropdead gorgeous!!! Dave, really, this is awesome!!!

Thanks! :)

Dave Martell
03-18-2014, 04:40 PM
Hiromoto AS Sujihiki with Performance Package (Thinned & Etched Blade, Rounded Spine & Choil, Sharpened)

This one came out pretty good for a suji.

rodneyat
03-18-2014, 04:52 PM
Very nice Dave...

I really wish the AS suji was still available. I missed the window. :(

Dave Martell
03-18-2014, 07:46 PM
Thanks Rodney

cheft98
03-20-2014, 11:45 AM
I think that's my suji and it looks great. Thanks Dave

Tamlin

Dave Martell
03-20-2014, 12:38 PM
I think that's my suji and it looks great. Thanks Dave

Tamlin

It sure is Tamlin. I hope that you gets lots of joy from using it. Thanks! :)

Dave Martell
03-20-2014, 12:45 PM
Here's Hans' 270mm Hiromoto AS gyuto.

This was a tough one, I'm not going to try to pretend it wasn't an ass kicker. The knife was ground real wonky, lows spots (especially near the kanji) , and super thick on the left side. At least it's unique now and should kick some ass in use and I'm happy for this at least. :)

Performance Package + a new AZ Ironwood Burl Handle....

Hbeernink
03-20-2014, 12:51 PM
Yow! Gorgeous- I'm off to buy a case of something to chop. Be right back.....

Dave Martell
03-20-2014, 12:59 PM
Yow! Gorgeous- I'm off to buy a case of something to chop. Be right back.....


LOL - I'm glad that you like it! :cool2:

ThEoRy
03-20-2014, 01:48 PM
That looks great, the etch came out fantastic!

mkriggen
03-20-2014, 04:42 PM
You sir, are an artist:notworthy:

Be well,
Mikey

Dave Martell
03-20-2014, 06:40 PM
Thanks Mikey, you're too kind. :)

apicius9
03-20-2014, 08:09 PM
Dang, that is nice. I think I have one of these 270 around somewhere, would make a nice companion to the 240...

Stefan

Dave Martell
03-20-2014, 10:28 PM
Dang, that is nice. I think I have one of these 270 around somewhere, would make a nice companion to the 240...

Stefan


You've got a 270mm as well? Send it over, I'll do a handle too. :)

marc4pt0
03-20-2014, 10:48 PM
That's some AMAZING S to the H to the IT! Stunning as usually my man

Dave Martell
03-20-2014, 10:51 PM
That's some AMAZING S to the H to the IT! Stunning as usually my man


Thanks Marc!

Dave Martell
03-27-2014, 04:22 PM
Two more Hiromoto AS Performance Packages complete...

rodneyat
03-27-2014, 04:27 PM
Those look very familiar!!!!!

Dave Martell
03-27-2014, 04:30 PM
Those look very familiar!!!!!


They should :D

Dave Martell
04-03-2014, 03:22 PM
Here's a 240mm gyuto & 190mm santoku, thinned, etched, and new handles. You can see the handles being made HERE (http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/showthread.php/17688-WIP-Western-Rehandle(s)?p=293102&viewfull=1#post293102)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010011_zpsd273a9f9.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010036_zpsc8688fe9.jpg

Mucho Bocho
04-03-2014, 03:37 PM
absolutely Pissa Dave!

Dave Martell
04-03-2014, 03:40 PM
absolutely Pissa Dave!


I know where you grew up. LOL :D

Thanks!

Mucho Bocho
04-03-2014, 04:00 PM
they say you can take the boy out of Mass but can't take the Mass out of the Boy. South Shore Mass-hole baby!

ThEoRy
04-03-2014, 04:48 PM
Mmmmm bacon.

rodneyat
04-03-2014, 04:49 PM
awesome job Dave! Mine arrived on Monday and I love them!

Dave Martell
04-03-2014, 05:01 PM
they say you can take the boy out of Mass but can't take the Mass out of the Boy. South Shore Mass-hole baby!



So true!

Dave Martell
04-03-2014, 05:01 PM
awesome job Dave! Mine arrived on Monday and I love them!


Good to hear Rodney. :)

Erilyn75
04-03-2014, 06:28 PM
Very beautiful, she's gonna love them!

Dave Martell
04-03-2014, 08:23 PM
Very beautiful, she's gonna love them!


Thanks Erica. BTW, I'm starting on yours this weekend. :)

apicius9
04-03-2014, 08:31 PM
Thanks Erica. BTW, I'm starting on yours this weekend. :)

So am I :)

Stefan

ThEoRy
04-03-2014, 08:47 PM
So am I :)

Stefan


Mee too! Oh wait nevermind...:scratchhead:

Erilyn75
04-03-2014, 08:47 PM
Oh I get double love this weekend!!:happy3:

Dave Martell
04-08-2014, 11:58 AM
240mm Hiromoto AS Gyuto


http://badgerandblade.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=433536&stc=1&d=1396815440


http://badgerandblade.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=433537&stc=1&d=1396815452


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http://badgerandblade.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=433539&stc=1&d=1396815484

Dave Martell
04-08-2014, 11:59 AM
190mm Hiromoto AS Santoku


http://badgerandblade.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=434132&stc=1&d=1396972320


http://badgerandblade.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=434133&stc=1&d=1396972332


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http://badgerandblade.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=434136&stc=1&d=1396972361


http://badgerandblade.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=434137&stc=1&d=1396972374

WarrenB
04-08-2014, 12:10 PM
Pics not showing for me Dave

Dave Martell
04-08-2014, 01:28 PM
Pics not showing for me Dave


Anyone else? I can see them myself.

rodneyat
04-08-2014, 01:35 PM
I can't see them either

Dave Martell
04-08-2014, 01:45 PM
No time to mess with this crap here. :curse:

Dave Martell
04-08-2014, 01:57 PM
240mm Hiromoto AS Gyuto

Dave Martell
04-08-2014, 01:58 PM
190mm Hiromoto AS Santoku

WarrenB
04-08-2014, 01:59 PM
Can see the new ones ok:thumbsup:

Dave Martell
04-08-2014, 02:04 PM
Can see the new ones ok:thumbsup:


:bliss:

Dave Martell
04-08-2014, 03:34 PM
Here's two more Performance Package Hiromotos.....240mm gyuto & 190mm santoku....

erikz
04-08-2014, 04:02 PM
Love the result! These knives really benefit from your work. Hiromoto should hire you for this!

Dave Martell
04-08-2014, 05:12 PM
Thanks Erik :)

Dave Martell
04-12-2014, 06:08 PM
Here is Erica's 240mm Hiromoto. It's been thinned & etched and everything rounded smooth. The handle configuration has been converted from full to hidden tang, AZ Ironwood installed, along with copper-black G10-copper spacers, and a copper mosaic pin.

The handle was shaped differently than I usually do because someone (ahem - Jim) has been after me to do a rounded rear end and once tested I really liked it and wanted to do it to this knife since I could tell the look would work. Beyond looks, this rounded rear feels very good in the hand (did you catch what I did here?LOL) and unless people have an objection to it I'm going to continue doing this moving forward from here. Please let me know what you think - be honest! http://www.kitchenknifefora.com/styles/default/xenforo/clear.png:wink:

The ironwood that Erica sourced is superb! I really love the look it gives off. The wood is finished to a satin luster, it's hand finished and simply oiled. IMO ironwood doesn't want to be shiny like a mirror so I don't force the issue.

Erica, I hope you get lots of joy and years of use from this one. http://www.kitchenknifefora.com/styles/default/xenforo/clear.png:thumbsup:


http://www.kitchenknifefora.com/attachments/p1010002-jpg.1350/

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Erilyn75
04-12-2014, 06:28 PM
OMG!! :bliss::bliss::bliss:

I LOVE it! The rounded butt is nice, I really like that. I just wish Mother Nature was so kind :lol2:

Thank you Dave :thumbsup:

icanhaschzbrgr
04-13-2014, 02:01 AM
Just WOW!

Benuser
04-14-2014, 02:52 PM
Very nice indeed. Congratulations to both of you!

Dave Martell
04-14-2014, 02:57 PM
Thanks guys! :)