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Don Nguyen
04-26-2013, 11:51 AM
Given a 240mm gyuto and 240mm sujihiki, why does the suji excel in slicing? They're both the same length, but the suji is cut down in height.

Is that shortened height so crucial to make it work so well? Are there big differences in the grinds that one would expect, that makes it effective (there was a thread discussing suji grinds a while back, but not regarding the comparison to a gyuto in performance).

It just kind of boggles my mind, but... I've never used a suji before, nor have I done enough slicing to have an idea.

Benuser
04-26-2013, 12:01 PM
The gyuto's wider blade will cause dragging with soft food.

Don Nguyen
04-26-2013, 12:10 PM
Wow, that never even crossed my mind. Sheesh, haha.

Thanks Benuser.

Pensacola Tiger
04-26-2013, 12:25 PM
And if you are carving rather than slicing, the narrower blade is easier to steer.

WiscoNole
04-26-2013, 04:06 PM
the closer the edge is to your hand, the more control you have.

El Pescador
04-26-2013, 05:17 PM
Sujis tend to much less convexed in comparison to gyutos. I think the reasoning behind this is that the purpose is much more specific and separation isn't an important characteristic.

mzer
04-26-2013, 06:31 PM
I've never found sujihikis to be very good at anything.

Patatas Bravas
04-26-2013, 10:39 PM
I was wondering about this too. Any other suji-haters out there? I'm undecided.

Benuser
04-26-2013, 10:50 PM
For meat and fish it's really the best you may get. Don't expect it to replace your gyuto as a general purpose knife, though. You will miss the distal taper, and may experience some wedging with hard stuff.

Benuser
04-26-2013, 11:18 PM
I was wondering about this too. Any other suji-haters out there? I'm undecided.
Get yourself a basic sujihiki, a carbon 270 Fujiwara FKH. It will change your life.

Patatas Bravas
04-26-2013, 11:49 PM
Get yourself a basic sujihiki, a carbon 270 Fujiwara FKH. It will change your life.

If you had to choose between a yanagiba & suji, which would you go with? (I think I know the answer already...)

Benuser
04-27-2013, 12:20 AM
If you had to choose between a yanagiba & suji, which would you go with? (I think I know the answer already...)
For cutting a roast, I would choose a sujihiki.

keithsaltydog
04-27-2013, 12:32 AM
Depends on use.For cutting platters of sashimi for banquets a Yanagiba blows away a Sugi.However a Yanagi is job specific.Both are slicers, the single bevel does it's specific jobs extremely well.A Sugi has a wider range more versitle is a decent slicer.

Many people feel more comfortable wt. a Sugi.,being used to DB knives.For home or limited use in a production Kit. a Sugi can work.If used & sharpened alot they wear down quickly because less steel.I've worn down 2 Masamoto Carbon Sugi's. over the yrs.In the last 10 yrs. I've bought 3 Yanagi's,serveral + Gyuto,Usuba,Deba,Cleavers,but no more Sugi's.

I did get a thin flexible carbon slicer,stag handle,antique blade at the swap meet,Great for carving Turkeys.

kpeddie2010
04-27-2013, 07:54 AM
I agree less drag and strict ion is not a issue so the less convex u get the straighter cuts u can achieve