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Dave Martell
05-18-2011, 09:40 PM
We've got the super secret surprise upgrade for the first 12 knives all set, this is great news to finally have this in the works.

As for production, the first knives will more than likely be the westerns (gytuos & sujis) being done in the order in which they were purchased. Do you guys want a running list shown like I did with Hiro group buys?

unkajonet
05-18-2011, 09:46 PM
It's more fun with the list!

Dave Martell
05-18-2011, 10:03 PM
It's more fun with the list!


Cool....hey while you're here I need to talk with you about your handle.

unkajonet
05-18-2011, 10:05 PM
Ahhh...just like old times!

ecchef
05-18-2011, 11:55 PM
Ahhh...just like old times!

Only BETTER! :EDance2:

mr drinky
05-19-2011, 12:01 AM
We've got the super secret surprise upgrade for the first 12 knives all set, this is great news to finally have this in the works.

Do you guys want a running list shown like I did with Hiro group buys?

Yes. Very yes.

And I am lucky because my Hiro was in that first batch and my Dave Knife will also be in this batch #10. Watching them come together ensures I neglect other important duties. How do you do an F5 refresh on a Mac?

k.

dough
05-19-2011, 01:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6juKXMUsElQ

JohnnyChance
05-19-2011, 02:02 AM
List please! IIRC I am #8. I could be wrong though.

And I am glad the super secret special surprise is a go...whatever it is.

Dave Martell
05-19-2011, 02:21 AM
And I am glad the super secret special surprise is a go...whatever it is.


It changed from the original idea but I think it'll be just as cool and it'll mean more (to me) where it's coming from. :)

Dave Martell
05-19-2011, 02:27 AM
Here's the list....


#1 - Steve (240mm western gyuto)

#2 - Sean (240mm western gyuto)

#3 - Avishar (240mm western gyuto)

#4 - Chuck (240mm western gyuto)

#5 - JR (300mm wa suji)

#6 - Emanuel (240mm wa gyuto)

#7 - JR (240mm wa gyuto)

#8 - John L-S (300mm western suji)

#9 - Ben (240mm western gyuto)

#10 - Karring (240mm western gyuto)

#11 - Dave (300mm western suji)

#12 - Rene (240mm western gyuto)

ecchef
05-19-2011, 06:58 AM
Shouldn't mine be a 300mm western suji? :confused:

dough
05-19-2011, 08:05 AM
well i clearly dont count as being in the first 12 but outa curiosity how many knives do you have pre-ordered?

Dave Martell
05-19-2011, 12:13 PM
Shouldn't mine be a 300mm western suji? :confused:


Yes sir, I made a goof up, correction made....thanks for bringing it to my attention. :)

Dave Martell
05-19-2011, 01:10 PM
well i clearly dont count as being in the first 12 but outa curiosity how many knives do you have pre-ordered?


I'm not sure of the exact count but it's more than 20

JohnnyChance
05-19-2011, 01:15 PM
wow, more 240 gyutos than I expected.

ecchef
05-19-2011, 07:06 PM
Yes sir, I made a goof up, correction made....thanks for bringing it to my attention. :)

Don't make me have to fly back there. :ovg:

Dave Martell
05-19-2011, 07:16 PM
Don't make me have to fly back there. :ovg:


Oh snap - I didn;t realize that it was then already, having fun yet?

ecchef
05-20-2011, 04:50 AM
Hell yeah. Gotta get used to driving on the wrong side of the road though. :eek2:

Haven't broken out any of the weaponry yet...I'm going to see my kitchen for the first time tonight!! :chef:

apicius9
05-20-2011, 05:52 AM
Cool, let us know how it goes. We want weekly updates with action photos :sumo::evilgrin::Beersausage:

Stefan

P.S. Did I mention that I love the smilies? :hula:

ecchef
05-20-2011, 09:46 PM
Wil do, as soon as my pc arrives. Can't upload pics to the gov't computers.

Dave Martell
05-25-2011, 11:26 AM
Update>

No progress made....talking on the phone all day everyday instead....phone is going to get torn off of wall and thrown away.

Jim
05-25-2011, 11:47 AM
Update>

No progress made....talking on the phone all day everyday instead....phone is going to get torn off of wall and thrown away.

I guess I will skip that call today.

:running:

stereo.pete
05-25-2011, 12:58 PM
I guess I will skip that call today.

:running:

Ditto

Dave Martell
05-25-2011, 01:48 PM
LOL guys :)

BTW - I love talking to people but in the recent months it's getting to be too much....imagine 6-8 hrs almost every day lost to the phone.

El Pescador
05-25-2011, 09:06 PM
LOL guys :)

BTW - I love talking to people but in the recent months it's getting to be too much....imagine 6-8 hrs almost every day lost to the phone.

Sounds like you need a 1-900 number! 6-8 hrs a day at $100/hr...

Pesky

Jim
05-25-2011, 09:09 PM
I am taking up a collection of string and cans for Dave.

http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/tmbs/3bafe3ebcb/fullsize_11.jpg?52334423

kalaeb
05-25-2011, 09:11 PM
I wondered why you were responding to my PM at 2 am. Hope the phone is ringing to make you lots of money!

Dave Martell
05-25-2011, 09:16 PM
Slow phone day today - only 4 hrs so far.

apicius9
05-26-2011, 12:14 AM
Oh boy, I'll talk faster the next time ;)

Stefan

Dave Martell
05-26-2011, 05:35 PM
Update>

The first screwed up 240mm gyuto (that I previously blew out the tip at the edge) has been shrunk down to a 230mm and the belly recurved as a result. I sharpened it and took it for a test drive (handle-less) and I'm pretty happy with the geometry. I may go a tad thicker in the production though but I'll do some measurement and playing around before I make a final decision. Having this knife is good for me because now I have a test mule to beat on and try things out on.

Jim
05-26-2011, 06:03 PM
Progress I like the sound of that!:thumbsup:

Dave Martell
05-26-2011, 06:32 PM
After ECG I'm diving in head first.

Dave Martell
05-29-2011, 08:24 PM
I've got some maroon burl and some more starry night micarta in from Butch if anyone's interested in reserving this for their knives.

Potato42
05-30-2011, 01:01 AM
neat what does the maroon burl look like? I'm not sure I've seen it before. Butch makes the coolest micarta. Starry night is classic.

tk59
05-31-2011, 12:53 AM
Okay. I have no business saying this but I feel like I need to see pics of SOMETHING to do with your first batch of customs. If you were trying to kill me, the lack of pics would be a good way to start the process. :helpsos:

JohnnyChance
05-31-2011, 12:58 AM
Okay. I have no business saying this but I feel like I need to see pics of SOMETHING to do with your first batch of customs. If you were trying to kill me, the lack of pics would be a good way to start the process. :helpsos:

Im going to start taking bets one which page this thread is at when the first completed knife gets photographed and posted.

Dave Martell
05-31-2011, 02:27 AM
Sorry guys......I keep moving forward with all my regular work but it seems like the knifemaking keeps getting pushed back. I have so much work to do it's crazy. All I can say is that I'm sorry for keeping you hanging in the breeze.

Potato42
05-31-2011, 02:30 AM
I think you guys should start calling Dave and bugging him about the lack of pictures...:devilburn:

Dave Martell
05-31-2011, 02:39 AM
LOL :bat:

Pensacola Tiger
05-31-2011, 11:13 AM
neat what does the maroon burl look like? I'm not sure I've seen it before. Butch makes the coolest micarta. Starry night is classic.

This is maroon burl:

http://www.japaneseknifesharpeningstore.com/v/vspfiles/photos/Butnak4-4.jpg

Dave Martell
05-31-2011, 11:27 AM
Thanks for the pic Rick!

Potato42
05-31-2011, 12:11 PM
Nice! Thanks Rick!

Dave Martell
06-13-2011, 12:19 AM
I got to use the first "mistake" knife the last two days and I have to say that I'm a lot more impressed with it than I thought I'd be. It's got good stability yet it's real thin and it took a slow mottled patina with zero food discoloration or odors to speak of. I can't wait to get to grinding on the first batch to which I'm only about 2 jobs away from doing. :happy1:

JohnnyChance
06-13-2011, 12:33 AM
Good to hear.....now back to work!!

Dave Martell
06-14-2011, 01:59 PM
For all of you that ordered knives from me and have been patiently waiting I just wanted to say thank you, that's thanks for the orders and thanks for your patience too. It's my hope, in the end, to have exceeded your expectations making the wait worthwhile.


PS - I'm getting so close to working on these knives I can actually taste the steel dust just thinking about. :)

unkajonet
06-14-2011, 02:31 PM
Well, Dave, you know what they say: Some things are sooooo worth waiting for!



http://www.demandstudiossucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/rachael-ray-chest.jpg

El Pescador
06-14-2011, 03:31 PM
Titties!

Dave Martell
06-14-2011, 03:52 PM
BOING

JohnnyChance
06-15-2011, 02:35 AM
Great, there goes another 15 minutes of Dave's time wasted away from the grinder. Thanks unkajonet.

unkajonet
06-15-2011, 02:41 AM
Just giving him a little inspiration with a different kind of grinder, is all.
:D

Dave Martell
06-18-2011, 09:45 PM
#1 is officially ground!! :dance:



PS- Knife grinding sucks

PierreRodrigue
06-18-2011, 09:52 PM
Hey!! What the heck! You know Dave, pics or someone will call BS!

rockbox
06-18-2011, 09:53 PM
I feel the opposite about knife grinding. I can grind forever until the blade almost disappears. I have to catch myself sometimes.

mr drinky
06-18-2011, 10:37 PM
#1 is officially ground!! :dance:



PS- Knife grinding sucks

Yeah, 8 more and you will be grinding mine :(

k.

Dave Martell
06-18-2011, 10:44 PM
Rough grind still seen and even rougher (shop lit) pictures but you should be able to get the idea.


http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=855&d=1308447785

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=856&d=1308447786

unkajonet
06-19-2011, 12:12 AM
:hungry: knife-knife-knife-knife!

Looks great, Dave! :thumbsup:

mr drinky
06-19-2011, 12:34 AM
I cannot wait. Looks good, Dave.

k.

apicius9
06-19-2011, 12:42 AM
Aahh, seen "em once, you've seen 'em all. Just another knife... :D

Stefan

l r harner
06-19-2011, 01:05 AM
cool dave see how much fun it is :)

Avishar
06-19-2011, 01:12 AM
:thumbsup::ggodjob: By number 3 you should have it down to a science ;)

Jim
06-19-2011, 01:18 AM
Nice,glad to hear you wearing out some belts!

ecchef
06-19-2011, 02:37 AM
:thumbsup::ggodjob: By number 3 you should have it down to a science ;)

Yeah...and by #11 you should be able to just will the steel into shape, like the Amazing Kreskin! :razz:

Think of how much money you'll save on belts! :thumbsup:

Eamon Burke
06-19-2011, 03:17 AM
That is a great shape, very user-oriented!

I'm not kidding, I think I sketched up this exact profile yesterday during a brainstorm.

Marko Tsourkan
06-19-2011, 12:03 PM
Looks great Dave. I like that even bevel. :thumbsup:

Dave Martell
06-19-2011, 12:31 PM
Thanks guys. I took my time on this one, maybe 2 hrs, and it came out pretty good. I was going for a modified flat/convex grind mix where it's damn near flat but there's actually three grinds going on but you can't see them easily. I'm looking for correct blade stiffness, correct thinness, and proper food release.

Maybe by knife #100 I'll have it down. :)

Marko Tsourkan
06-19-2011, 02:44 PM
I hear you. I know exactly what you are saying.

M

Dave Martell
06-19-2011, 03:00 PM
Here's some shots in better lighting. This is about the level of finish that the blades will have.

*Please excuse the fingerprints near the spine on both sides.



http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=862&d=1308506298

Dave Martell
06-19-2011, 08:13 PM
No. 2 is ground! :)

No.3 will wait for the coarser belts to show up.

99Limited
06-19-2011, 11:46 PM
... Maybe by knife #100 I'll have it down. :)

I'd like to go ahead and place my order for knife #100 please.

Dave Martell
06-19-2011, 11:51 PM
I'd like to go ahead and place my order for knife #100 please.

:happy2:

unkajonet
06-19-2011, 11:51 PM
You don't need to wait that long. All the kinks will be worked out by knife #5...
knife #6, and all the others after it, will be perfect.

Isn't that right, Dave? :ovg::D

Dave Martell
06-20-2011, 12:03 AM
That is a great shape, very user-oriented!

I'm not kidding, I think I sketched up this exact profile yesterday during a brainstorm.


It's good to hear that I'm not the only one thinking like this. :D

Dave Martell
06-20-2011, 12:04 AM
You don't need to wait that long. All the kinks will be worked out by knife #5...
knife #6, and all the others after it, will be perfect.

Isn't that right, Dave? :ovg::D


I normally like to perfect things after I do yours.....what # do you have? :D

unkajonet
06-20-2011, 12:07 AM
If I said...um...number 4, would you believe me? :angel:

Dave Martell
06-20-2011, 12:07 AM
BTW, even though it's slow going I couldn't be happier with the results I'm getting. The blades are coming out exactly as I want with regards to geometry grinds, I think this is going to work out good, I have a very good feeling here. :)

Dave Martell
06-20-2011, 12:07 AM
If I said...um...number 4, would you believe me? :angel:


Probably not :razz:

Avishar
06-20-2011, 04:03 AM
I'm pretty sure he was number #2 :bladesmith: 3rd time is a charm anyway right :scared2:

Dave Martell
06-20-2011, 11:49 AM
Well the first two came out nearly identical which isn't something I expected.....maybe #3 will be a mess? :D

Avishar
06-20-2011, 12:41 PM
I was thinking you could make mine especially like this one, guaranteed for 25 years without any sharpening, and with individual serial number :shocked3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9j7OIicCkY&feature=player_embedded#at=29

Dave Martell
06-20-2011, 12:46 PM
25 years - Oh that's funny!


I can maybe do the serial number part. :D

WildBoar
06-20-2011, 03:23 PM
Dave -- I really like the looks of that blade profile. I doubt you will have any complaints about not enough flat area :) I wasn't crazy about the profile on the samples you had at the ECG, but now that you have ground one out I think it looks like a winner!

Dave Martell
06-20-2011, 04:04 PM
....it looks like a winner!


Time will tell. :)

Chef Niloc
06-23-2011, 10:18 AM
How many you got done now? It's been about a week you should have 50 or so done by now:ohmy: no sleep for you till all your home work is done:dazed:

Dave Martell
06-24-2011, 09:54 PM
I received this question in an email today....


......the two that you ground - did they have any flex?




My reply (the reason for posting this)....


I'm glad that you asked about flex, this is been a huge thing for me to make sure that I don't have. What I'm trying to accomplish is to make a chef's knife that doesn't twist and flex yet is still super thin but I also want good food separation as well. What I'm doing is leaving the spine with only the slightest taper, from 2mm to 1.8mm at the hump and then a drop down in thickness for the tip section. This leaves the spine for support to resist flex and still provide the thin tip for fine work. Now from the spine down is a different story altogether, here I've nearly flat ground but not, I've worked in a triple bevel grind and then blended them altogether into the slightest convex up the blade face. This allow me to go super thin but to allow for the sides of the blade to release or push away food. This will hopefully be the best of all worlds.

The profile is flat but not a dead flat, it should perform great at push cutting while rocking isn't at all out of the question. Again I'm looking to provide the best for all things people want.

Dave Martell
06-26-2011, 01:33 AM
Here's some handle material to consider. It's all Butch Harner's homemade my-carta. This stuff is tough as nails - impervious to moisture - a great choice for a pro kitchen.

The maroon will be a lot darker when finished - it looks almost pink now but that's not at all what it'll look like later.

I'm prepping handles so please speak up if you want one of these for your knife.


http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=906&d=1309062784

Justin0505
06-26-2011, 03:19 AM
So I gotta ask: how does one make my-carta at home?

Pensacola Tiger
06-26-2011, 10:46 AM
So I gotta ask: how does one make my-carta at home?

Google "homemade micarta".

Here's one hit:

http://www.northcoastknives.com/northcoast_knives_tutorials_hints_tips14.htm

Rick

Justin0505
06-26-2011, 04:51 PM
Thanks for the link PT! I'd seen the basic, even-layered stuff before, but It seems like Butch gets all kinds of different swirly patterns in his. I'm guessing maybe layering different kinds of patterned fabric? Folding/twisting the different layers? Colored resin?
Anyway, didn't mean to get too far OT -just thought that it was pretty cool and couldn't quite get my head around the process.

Dave Martell
06-26-2011, 05:29 PM
Butch cuts strips of fabric, puts them into a tub, and then pours epoxy in (I think in layers as he goes) and then presses the material into a big mess of a block. He uses recycled material when he can like in the blue jeans/starry night blocks where he uses donated blue jeans from friends and family.

l r harner
06-26-2011, 05:36 PM
yep its a mig mash of fabrice liek paper mechay
but i use a steel box and 12 ton press and epoxy resin not glue ")

Justin0505
06-26-2011, 07:05 PM
Ah-hah!! I was wondering how you'd avoid dead-space/air pockets with an uneven mix, but I guess 12tons has a way of flattening things out. Whatd you use for the pressing? Hydrolic truck jack?

Dave Martell
06-28-2011, 02:25 PM
Stand back - the super coarse ass belts just arrived and I just got word that the bolster material is being done today. Things are looking up here. Get ready fellas! :happy1:

ecchef
06-29-2011, 02:34 AM
Stand back - the super coarse ass belts just arrived and I just got word that the bolster material is being done today. Things are looking up here. Get ready fellas! :happy1:

I'm ready, man, I'm ready! :devilburn:

Dave Martell
06-29-2011, 05:40 PM
#3 is all done.....nice & thick just the way you like it Avishar. Oh and I threw in a bonus, I started the patina for ya! :rofl2:


http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=942&d=1309379923

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=943&d=1309379924

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=941&d=1309379921

unkajonet
06-29-2011, 06:07 PM
That's it, Dave...get it all out of your system. The rest should be all nice and skinny by, what, knife #6? :D

Seriously - it looks great! :thumbsup2::thumbsup2:

SpikeC
06-29-2011, 06:26 PM
I dunno about that bolster.............

unkajonet
06-29-2011, 06:55 PM
What wrong with the bolster? It stays out of the way of a freehander...

Dave Martell
06-29-2011, 07:13 PM
You guys don't like my aluminum bolster idea? You can remove it to clean the gunk out when needed.

Avishar
06-30-2011, 04:00 AM
#3 is all done.....nice & thick just the way you like it Avishar. Oh and I threw in a bonus, I started the patina for ya! :rofl2:


:happy1::happy1::happy1::happy1: :jumpy:

Almost perfect, you forgot to engrave "Big Bertha" on the side of it ;) You know I like it nice and thick, so I can use it for shade in the summer and insulation in the winter :sofa:

I also think you let it soak in the unicorn blood too long, I was under the impression that you would at least apply it using bubble wrap, :poke1: :thumbsup2:

PS What happened to the titanium coating and the dual density edge we discussed ? http://www.williams-sonoma.com/wsimgs/ab/images/dp/wcm/201123/0007/img21m.jpg

Dave Martell
06-30-2011, 06:55 PM
The hardest part of doing this grinding stuff is the finishing part, it's driving me crazy. It's so damn hard to get what I'm looking for that I'm spending 1/3 of my grind time per knife just screwing with this alone! :doublebanghead:

WildBoar
06-30-2011, 07:01 PM
The hardest part of doing this grinding stuff is the finishing part, it's driving me crazy. It's so damn hard to get what I'm looking for that I'm spending 1/3 of my grind time per knife just screwing with this alone! :doublebanghead:Eye of the tiger, Rocky! :gun1:

SpikeC
06-30-2011, 08:22 PM
I hear ya, Dave! Gives you a little insight into Carters finishing, eh?

Dave Martell
06-30-2011, 08:37 PM
I hear ya, Dave! Gives you a little insight into Carters finishing, eh?

Yes sir it does!

Dave Martell
06-30-2011, 09:56 PM
Just did another 1.5 hrs messing around with the finish and I think I'm finally getting somewhere. It's a very shiny Scothbrite texture - slick as snot! :D

Dave Martell
06-30-2011, 11:17 PM
Oh Mr. Avsihar, your knife grind came out real nice, I'm even impressed. LOL :lol2:

Avishar
07-01-2011, 12:36 AM
Awesome! Can't wait to see the final product :D Hopefully your frustration turned into motivation and not displaced anger towards my poor soon to be blade ;)

bprescot
07-01-2011, 01:15 AM
Oh Mr. Avsihar, your knife grind came out real nice, I'm even impressed. LOL :lol2:

God DAMN it Dave! Your the Forum owner, I shouldn't have to remind you of this crap! :angry1:

PICS or it didn't happen! :D

l r harner
07-01-2011, 10:31 AM
yep the finsh grinding takes piles more time then hogging off the main steel

mc2442
07-01-2011, 12:20 PM
I like the moral outrage.

Jim
07-01-2011, 12:41 PM
I like the moral outrage.

Hahaha...

Eamon Burke
07-01-2011, 01:48 PM
God DAMN it Dave! Your the Forum owner, I shouldn't have to remind you of this crap! :angry1:


The vitriol confused me, even.

bprescot
07-01-2011, 02:00 PM
Haha. Nope all in jest. I was going for Mock outrage and apparently oversold it! :lol2:

Jim
07-01-2011, 02:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrDPy-A-V0g

bprescot
07-01-2011, 02:11 PM
WOW... Yeah, all in jest, definitely not a complete flip out. I've just got a slightly off sense of humor :wink:

Andrew H
07-01-2011, 02:52 PM
I like how Jim linked the version of that video that has 320 views instead of the one that has over 2 million :razz:

apicius9
07-01-2011, 04:05 PM
I like how Jim linked the version of that video that has 320 views instead of the one that has over 2 million :razz:

Nothing more relaxing than playing computer games...

Stefan

Jim
07-01-2011, 04:18 PM
WOW... Yeah, all in jest, definitely not a complete flip out. I've just got a slightly off sense of humor :wink:

Oh sorry, I thought it would be clearer, that's me every time Dave posts in this thread and my knives are not done yet!:rolleyes2:

Dave Martell
07-01-2011, 08:18 PM
Here's the first three showing the finish on them now. I'll probably re-do them again after I get done with the next couple done though, I never seem to be able stop messing with things. I do think this level of finish should make for a good canvas for those cool purple and blue colors to come alive on. :)


http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=951&d=1309562027

jwpark
07-01-2011, 10:01 PM
They look great Dave.

But I think if you want to produce more knives, you gonna have to be satisfied with a certain level of finish instead of aiming for perfection on each one.

Jay

Kyle
07-01-2011, 11:22 PM
I wanna see a suji! :D

apicius9
07-01-2011, 11:26 PM
Hey, Fleetwood is a very small town, so you are practically a village blacksmith, and that means a rustic finish is just fine :D

Stefan

Dave Martell
07-01-2011, 11:35 PM
I should embrace this way of thinking! :D


Sujis coming soon Kyle!

JohnnyChance
07-02-2011, 12:23 AM
They look nice and thin. Ok, enough chit chat. BACK TO WORK!

Avishar
07-02-2011, 02:36 AM
They look great Dave.

But I think if you want to produce more knives, you gonna have to be satisfied with a certain level of finish instead of aiming for perfection on each one.

Jay


SHHHHHHHH :disturb:

Mattias504
07-02-2011, 12:01 PM
Sweet, Dave!

Dave Martell
07-03-2011, 10:00 PM
#1 has bolsters mounted! :D


#2 & #3 would as well but the drill press motor doesn't want to run anymore. :(

Dave Martell
07-04-2011, 04:07 PM
Here we have knife #1 with bolsters attached and partially shaped (they won't look anything like this when done) and scales cut ready for liners to be attached which is getting done right after I upload this post.

I'm pretty happy with the bolster attachment so far. I came up with a way to do hidden pins (well screws actually) to hold the bolsters on physically in addition to epoxy. This is great because the're held on just about as good as solder can do but I don't have to mess with solder. I have great confidence in this method as it's a double secure system just like I use for the wood scales as well.

Knife #2 also has it's bolsters attached and scales are already prepped and ready for this one.

Knife #3 is on hold waiting for more bolster material.

Once I get past this hurdle with the bolster learning curve I'll be rolling through these knives pretty quickly, should be more a matter to just working than having to learn new things and buy a whole bunch of tools and stuff like what I've been doing. It should (hopefully) go a lot smoother from here on out. I know that I want to get these knives out to you guys as soon as I can. Thanks again for being so patient with me.

Dave

ecchef
07-05-2011, 08:07 AM
Those pictures gave me a chubby.:shy:

Dave Martell
07-05-2011, 08:42 PM
Progress report > life is sucking right now. I've lost two sets of bolster material (very expensive stuff!!!) :doublebanghead:


Knife #1 has it's scales mounted.

SpikeC
07-05-2011, 09:08 PM
How did you loose the material?

apicius9
07-05-2011, 09:09 PM
http://youtu.be/uepFO4psgKE


Here ya go, I second that advice and I am a doctor :D

Stefan

Dave Martell
07-05-2011, 11:38 PM
The problem I'm having is simple enough but the fix means more money going out for equipment and more time waiting. Until then I have a slow but OK way to do it which worked out OK just now in recovering a loss for knife #2. So I've backed away from the edge for now and still moving forward. :)

Dave Martell
07-05-2011, 11:39 PM
http://youtu.be/uepFO4psgKE


Here ya go, I second that advice and I am a doctor :D

Stefan


I may still take Bluto's advice though. :D

apicius9
07-05-2011, 11:44 PM
Not sure why, but Daniel Simpson Day always reminds me a bit of Butch ;)

Stefan

Dave Martell
07-06-2011, 12:21 AM
Not sure why, but Daniel Simpson Day always reminds me a bit of Butch ;)

Stefan


I can see that. :D

Dave Martell
07-06-2011, 12:30 AM
Sitting here thinking about everything I've had to do to get this knifemaking thing up and running is staggering to consider really. I thought that the Hiromoto group buys were a big undertaking but this just flat out dwarfs that whole thing. I'm just thankful that I didn't start this sooner than I did though, I really needed the experience of handling thousands and thousands of knives and doing all those re-handles to be able to wrap my head around the whole process. Plus, I've met some really great knifemakers in the last couple of years who have shared a great deal with me which no doubt aided in my confidence building and willingness to try. Why the reflection now? I guess because I'm moments away from having my first ever knife done and it's all sinking in, the journey and all that happy crap. :)

mr drinky
07-06-2011, 12:47 AM
Yeah, yeah, yadda yadda. Now show us PICTURES...

Ok, I'm just kidding. I'm amazed at all you have done since the group buy too. Great job.

k.

dough
07-07-2011, 12:49 AM
its been fun to watch the process.

steeley
07-07-2011, 03:58 AM
Its been a hell of a ride watching and reading Dave's post for many years now .
All the best on your new knife's

Lance:shots:

Dave Martell
07-07-2011, 05:45 PM
More days of pain passing by....nothing ever goes as planned. :doublebanghead:

WildBoar
07-07-2011, 05:58 PM
More days of pain passing by....nothing ever goes as planned. :doublebanghead:And that is why gin and vodka were invented...

steeley
07-07-2011, 08:02 PM
Does the gin get mixed with vodka or vice verse

WildBoar
07-07-2011, 08:09 PM
NEVER mix gin with vodka! You mix the vodka in with the gin...

apicius9
07-07-2011, 08:12 PM
Too bland for me, I would add a dash of bourbon.

Stefan

steeley
07-07-2011, 08:34 PM
and a pineapple wedge and umbrella.http://www.limepic.com/img/spiritofaloha.jpg

mr drinky
07-07-2011, 11:26 PM
NEVER mix gin with vodka! You mix the vodka in with the gin...

I mix vodka only with my mouth.

k.

Dave Martell
07-08-2011, 05:58 PM
Well folks I'm at a work stand still on the knives, well kinda. I've trashed all of my bolster material I had made up and I'm waiting for the next batch to arrive. So while I wait I'll be grinding blades and prepping handles. I was hoping to put these out in sets of 3-4 at a time but it's just not going to happen for the first ones.

Something positive happened for all of my troubles though, I discovered that I need to reduce the tang thickness to properly balance them out. I had assumed that 3/32" would work OK but I think for a full tang in 240mm in western configuration this is too much beef on the back end. Even though this will mean more work I believe it'll result in a better knife so I'm happy about that.

Sorry again for the delay.

Dave

Dave Martell
07-09-2011, 06:48 PM
Well this is going to ruin the surprise for the first 12 of you waiting for your knives but I feel like I owe you some explanations on what's been going on.

One of the problems that's just hit me pretty hard is working with bolsters. If I had chosen an easier material such as stainless or nickel silver I could have opted to use the traditional peened pin method to secure the bolsters since I could use the same pin material as the bolster material and have it all blend in together but I chose to work with mokume for these first 12 knives. Mokume has a pattern so if I use a pin even of mokume it will stick out like a sore thumb. I could opt to try my hand at soldering (very traditional way of securing bolsters) but I already know the mess that would present so I wanted to avoid this if at all possible. I decided to be slick (as they say) and re-invent the mouse trap but my efforts have been met with some failure mixed with the success. I decided to make the bolsters screw together with a hidden pin. Great idea, right?

Here you see knife #1 (handle rough shaped) with things looking pretty good.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010006-18.jpg


Now you see the big kick in the nuts.... :nutskick:
Here is the opposite side where the screw got exposed while I was shaping the bolster. It appears that I mis-calculated the depth that I could drill the hole for the screw and this is the result of that mistake.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/p1010001-27.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010009-11.jpg


I also found out (after shaping) that the tang needs thinning to reduce weight for a better balance point. You can see the tang's thickness here in this shot as compared to the blade just in front of the bolsters.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dmart/P1010008-17.jpg


So this knife is screwed as it sits. If I can get these bolsters off and then re-attach new ones I can salvage this knife but if not it's another one for the pile......my stash that is. :wink:

Oh and to complicate things I also had a lot of trouble with getting the bolsters squared up before mounting. This is a completely unexpected problem that I didn't see coming. For me the issue isn't of not knowing how to do it but of not having the proper equipment to make it easier on me. I have a really nice variable speed disc grinder but without a table it's not so easy to make things square in all directions and parallel from top to bottom/side to side. From not only a visual standpoint but in quality of fitment this is very critical. I lost a couple of sets of mokume bolster material pieces in the process of getting my ass kicked on this and I still don't have an answer yet in how I'm going to deal with them in the future.

Oh and to just completely screw me up my drill press motor went up in smoke in the middle of all of this happening.

What a couple of weeks!

So yeah I blew the surprise but at least now you have something to look forward too, some nice Delbert Ealy mokume bolsters which BTW are special made to display the pattern from the side. What you see here in the pictures isn't at all what they'll look like once polished and etched, this is raw stuff here, they should come out silver with dark copper streaks running throughout. Hopefully we'll get to see one finished soon. :)

apicius9
07-09-2011, 07:01 PM
Cut the cap, you did that on purpose so you could keep that knife for yourself :tooth:

But seriously, sorry to hear about the troubles. It speaks for your ambition and your taste - but against your sanity - to start with the much more complicated bolsters first. I hope you will find a good way to do this. That will make look making 'normal' bolsters much easier later on. And in any case - handle and bolster combo looks great, can't wait to see the whole knife.

Stefan

Dave Martell
07-09-2011, 07:20 PM
Cut the cap, you did that on purpose so you could keep that knife for yourself :tooth:




LOL I sure do love me some signature wood too. :D

Hey now you know why I need another block.

Dave Martell
07-09-2011, 07:25 PM
Oh and one more thing I forgot to mention is that Del just told me that he lost (as in ruined) the next mokume billet he was making for me. Apparently this doesn't happen often to him but he didn't figure on the Martell curse to effect him way out there in MI. Now he's waiting on the raw materials so that he can start over.

In the meantime I'll be grinding blades and getting handles ready, buying a new drill press, and trying to figure out a table set up for my disc grinder.

EdipisReks
07-09-2011, 07:31 PM
you'll get these teething pains resolved, Dave, i'm sure of it. i'm hoping to buy a block 2 knife, myself!

SpikeC
07-09-2011, 08:24 PM
When I saw the first picture I was "ooh, nice" then when I saw the second my stomach jumped. You have my deepest and most sincere sympathy. That really sucks.

Dave Martell
07-09-2011, 11:33 PM
I just spoke to the (hopefully soon to be) owner of knife #1 and he's asking that I try to save this for him since he loves the wood so much. We've talked about some options (his suggestions really) and I think I can pull off at least one of them so maybe we'll have a winner here after all. Stay tuned!

JohnnyChance
07-10-2011, 01:02 AM
Damn, that sucks, but damn, that is some nice wood too! I love that mokume too, sometimes I don't care for it, but Del's looks really really nice.

Stefan sending you any more spalted wood by chance....?

Dave Martell
07-10-2011, 01:04 AM
Stefan sending you any more spalted wood by chance....?


He just told me that he has some of this wood but it's not as dense - more spalted looking. This is really a premium piece of this stuff.

Dave Martell
07-10-2011, 01:06 AM
A little Canadian birdie just whispered some tidbits of information in my ear which should greatly help with my blundering and maybe even save my back side on this knife. :thumbsup:

kalaeb
07-10-2011, 02:10 AM
That Hawian signature is tough stuff to get, I would do whatever it took to save the wood. Besides the pin in the bolster, that looks freaking awesome Dave! Good luck, hope you get it resolved.

Eamon Burke
07-10-2011, 04:48 PM
That hole in the bolster? Drill the other side, stick the same pinstock in it, shine both sides up, then peen a logo into them. Nobody's the wiser. :sofa:

But noooo....you had to go and tell everyone.:razz:

Audi's or knives
07-10-2011, 09:24 PM
Dave, these are going to look great when finished. Good luck and keep plugging away, I'm sure it will get easier after the first few.

Dave Martell
07-10-2011, 09:39 PM
Dave, these are going to look great when finished. Good luck and keep plugging away, I'm sure it will get easier after the first few.


I hope that you're right on all counts. :)

l r harner
07-10-2011, 10:30 PM
dave call me tomorrow and i ll see about helping you out with atht bolster bit (remember i told you that i dont do them for a resoun) i think tho that i can (if you can get the old off ) help you get the new ones on with out messing up the wood

Dave Martell
07-11-2011, 12:21 AM
Cool - we'll talk.

apicius9
07-11-2011, 05:16 AM
That hole in the bolster? Drill the other side, stick the same pinstock in it, shine both sides up, then peen a logo into them. Nobody's the wiser. :sofa:

But noooo....you had to go and tell everyone.:razz:

That's a good point. You could also just drill a 1/4" whole and stick a mosaic pin through it, call it art ;)

Stefan

Dave Martell
07-11-2011, 02:59 PM
Knife #2 has the same problem - screw popped through the bolster on one side. :(

SpikeC
07-11-2011, 03:01 PM
A pin with a star pattern would look pretty good there...........................

ecchef
07-13-2011, 09:26 AM
Knife #2 has the same problem - screw popped through the bolster on one side. :(

You might want to reconsider that soldering option. :doublebanghead:

obtuse
07-13-2011, 09:22 PM
Or a few drops of liquid weld

Dave Martell
07-13-2011, 09:44 PM
I managed to get the bolsters off of #1 without damaging the scales. Now to do this to #2. :)

Avishar
07-13-2011, 11:52 PM
:happyyes: It will be perfect by lucky #3 right? third time is a charm, good things come in threes, etc. :evilgrin:

Dave Martell
07-13-2011, 11:58 PM
:happyyes: It will be perfect by lucky #3 right? third time is a charm, good things come in threes, etc. :evilgrin:

I sure as hell hope so! :D

Dave Martell
07-27-2011, 01:16 AM
A few updates.....


1. #3 & #4 are in the works. #3 would have been done today but I found the slightest flaw in the bolster so I yanked it off and installed a new one. #4 is at the handle install stage.


2. Knives #5, 6, 7 are being skipped over due to the fact that I'm waiting on the finished handles to arrive from Stefan. This is NOT Stefan's fault for the delay, it is all my responsibility as I delayed the making of the handles for several reasons mostly due to material acquisition.

The first one that will be done will likely be the handle for knife #6 (Emanuel's knife) as the other two are waiting on handle material to go for stabilization.

I shouldn't promise this but if all goes well these three wa handles will have mokume end caps installed. :)


3. I also have natural micarta (brown) available if anyone wants to try this for their bolster material on the western knives. I got it hoping for a lighter option but I think it's nearly as dark as black is but it may match some wood choices better. If you're interested please speak up.

unkajonet
07-27-2011, 01:21 AM
Mokume end caps? All I can say is :bliss::EDance2::hula::happy1:, with a healthy dose of :dance:

tk59
07-27-2011, 01:25 AM
Where's that "wetting yourself" smilie? I think unkajonet just did. Don't change your mind, Dave. You don't wanna see a grown man cry...

unkajonet
07-27-2011, 01:28 AM
Grown men don't cry. They leak from the top.

Dave Martell
07-27-2011, 01:40 AM
What happened is that I had Del make up the mokume for both the first westerns and the wa handles at the same time so that I could send the wa handle pieces off to Stefan ASAP. So I send them off to Stefan and start work on the westerns in the meantime and find I'm not so skilled with such things and have to put that on hold but since Stefan already has the mokume pieces why not use them? I sure do hate to see grown men leak from the top too. :)

tk59
07-27-2011, 01:41 AM
Do they ask their mamas to carry them?

unkajonet
07-27-2011, 01:42 AM
Do they ask their mamas to carry them?

If they look like Rachel Ray, they do

tk59
07-27-2011, 01:43 AM
You are a sick, sick man, unkajo

unkajonet
07-27-2011, 01:46 AM
must be the company I keep

mr drinky
07-27-2011, 01:52 AM
2. Knives #5, 6, 7 are being skipped over due to the fact that I'm waiting on the finished handles to arrive from Stefan. This is NOT Stefan's fault for the delay, it is all my responsibility as I delayed the making of the handles for several reasons mostly due to material acquisition.

3. I also have natural micarta (brown) available if anyone wants to try this for their bolster material on the western knives. I got it hoping for a lighter option but I think it's nearly as dark as black is but it may match some wood choices better. If you're interested please speak up.

Man, now I know what you meant by #10 coming quicker than I thought. Also, if you feel the dark brown bolster would look better with the redwood going on my handle, then feel free to use it.

k.

Dave Martell
07-27-2011, 02:11 AM
Man, now I know what you meant by #10 coming quicker than I thought. Also, if you feel the dark brown bolster would look better with the redwood going on my handle, then feel free to use it.

k.


Yup that's exactly what I was thinking about when I mentioned you're coming up quick. I'll make a note about the brown bolster on your paperwork, I'll see what I think.

apicius9
07-27-2011, 02:20 AM
Already cut the pieces for #6 and hope to glue it all together this weekend. Now I only hope that I don't kill too many mokume pieces ;) The wood for #s 5 & 7 will go to K&G on Thursday.

Stefan

Dave Martell
07-27-2011, 02:23 AM
Already cut the pieces for #6 and hope to glue it all together this weekend. Now I only hope that I don't kill too many mokume pieces ;) The wood for #s 5 & 7 will go to K&G on Thursday.

Stefan


Cool! :)

And just to be clear that's kauri for #6, right?

Oh and just to be clear (again) there's no way that you're going to screw up any mokume! :bat:

JohnnyChance
07-27-2011, 02:23 AM
Does this mean #8 is next? Geez I thought I had more time before I was up! I guess you need me to pick some handle material, ehh?

apicius9
07-27-2011, 02:28 AM
Cool! :)

And just to be clear that's kauri for #6, right?

Oh and just to be clear (again) there's no way that you're going to screw up any mokume! :bat:

Yep, the darker kauri, right? I think I also have whitebait, but for that handle the dark one would look nicer IMHO.

We'll see, I remember your hidden pin in the mokume bolster :tooth:

Stefan

Dave Martell
07-27-2011, 02:31 AM
Does this mean #8 is next? Geez I thought I had more time before I was up! I guess you need me to pick some handle material, ehh?


Oh yeah crap - we need to talk!!!!!!

Dave Martell
07-27-2011, 02:32 AM
Yep, the darker kauri, right? I think I also have whitebait, but for that handle the dark one would look nicer IMHO.

We'll see, I remember your hidden pin in the mokume bolster :tooth:

Stefan



Yup go for the darker and if possible pick one that has shade variations throughout.

obtuse
07-27-2011, 07:45 AM
What handle materials will you use for knives above the first twelve?

Dave Martell
07-27-2011, 09:25 AM
What handle materials will you use for knives above the first twelve?


That's a BIG question for me to answer, it's been on my mind since day1, and I still don't have it figured out yet. I may offer a choice between a few types versus picking just one but I for sure want to limit and standardize as much as possible. I'm partial to ironwood burl, amboyna burl, and quilted maple.

Kyle
07-27-2011, 02:01 PM
That's a BIG question for me to answer, it's been on my mind since day1, and I still don't have it figured out yet. I may offer a choice between a few types versus picking just one but I for sure want to limit and standardize as much as possible. I'm partial to ironwood burl, amboyna burl, and quilted maple.

A while back you had some pieces of wood available that you offered up for the western knifes. I believe I called dibs on a piece of koa, does that still apply? Thanks!

Dave Martell
07-27-2011, 02:09 PM
A while back you had some pieces of wood available that you offered up for the western knifes. I believe I called dibs on a piece of koa, does that still apply? Thanks!



Hi Kyle, I have you down for what was labeled as Koa#2 :)

Kyle
07-27-2011, 02:17 PM
Hi Kyle, I have you down for what was labeled as Koa#2 :)

OK cool, just wanted to make sure! :)

obtuse
07-27-2011, 10:00 PM
That's a BIG question for me to answer, it's been on my mind since day1, and I still don't have it figured out yet. I may offer a choice between a few types versus picking just one but I for sure want to limit and standardize as much as possible. I'm partial to ironwood burl, amboyna burl, and quilted maple.

awesome! I'd be happy with any one of those woods. can't wait :) I wonder what # I am.

jm2hill
07-27-2011, 10:05 PM
Dave your knives look great! if you can perfect the whole process by the middle of september that would be perfect. Thats bonus time at work and I know what I want it to go too!

ecchef
07-28-2011, 06:32 AM
I'm partial to ironwood burl, amboyna burl, and quilted maple.

Can't go wrong with that!

Dave Martell
07-30-2011, 01:39 AM
I measured the edge thickness of the #3 knife just before boxing, it went at 0.006"

By comparison I measured a Shigefusa 240mm gyuto and it measured at 0.011"

Guess I'm doing OK

SpikeC
07-30-2011, 02:18 PM
Sounds good! Don't want it too thin, though! (I guess) Mine are about .008, and the Haslinger is also .008, just as reference points.

obtuse
07-30-2011, 02:23 PM
I measured the edge thickness of the #3 knife just before boxing, it went at 0.006"

By comparison I measured a Shigefusa 240mm gyuto and it measured at 0.011"

Guess I'm doing OK

Whoa that's thin... may just be the sharpest out of the box edge ever.

Dave Martell
07-30-2011, 02:26 PM
I ground one practice knife down to 0.002" but that struck me as too thin.

obtuse
07-30-2011, 02:48 PM
I ground one practice knife down to 0.002" but that struck me as too thin.
just a little ... :jumpy: how's the O1 holding up to the extreme thinness?

Dave Martell
07-30-2011, 08:00 PM
Will anybody (first 12) mind if their number changes? I'm asking because I'm thinking that it might not make much sense to do the next knife and label it as #9 when it's actually #5, know what I mean? What do you guys think?

bprescot
07-30-2011, 08:16 PM
Well, I think I am number nine... I don't mind provided 5-8 don't. Though now that I think about it, Naughty Number Nine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iLcQr2vvno) kicks Number Five's @ss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_1x7V1sHd0). :wink:

Dave Martell
07-30-2011, 09:50 PM
You are #9 Ben and your knife is ground and scales are prepped. :)

mr drinky
07-30-2011, 11:48 PM
I am number 10 and I don't care what number is on it. Though ten is a nice looking number :)

k.

Dave Martell
07-30-2011, 11:59 PM
I am number 10 and I don't care what number is on it. Though ten is a nice looking number :)

k.


You might stay the same.....well maybe. :)

unkajonet
07-31-2011, 12:06 AM
As long as it has "Martell" on the blade, any number is cool.

Dave Martell
07-31-2011, 12:06 AM
As long as it has "Martell" on the blade, any number is cool.


You're too cool yourself Emanuel - thanks.

ecchef
07-31-2011, 12:16 AM
I'm at the tail end anyway, so it porbably won't affect me.
If you gotta change it...that's ok.

Dave Martell
07-31-2011, 01:22 AM
I'm not sure if you'll be affected or not Dave, it would be nice to thin that I can get that far into it that quickly though. :)

bprescot
07-31-2011, 01:27 AM
You are #9 Ben and your knife is ground and scales are prepped. :)

WooHoo!!! :bliss:

Wait. No no. Can't get excited. Causes days to pass too slowly...

Dave Martell
07-31-2011, 01:31 AM
WooHoo!!! :bliss:

Wait. No no. Can't get excited. Causes days to pass too slowly...


Hey your knife got some extra special lovin' too.....tapered tang baby! Oh yeah she's gonna balance nicely me thinks. :D

obtuse
07-31-2011, 06:11 AM
I bet that tapered tang is going to look sweet as well.

ecchef
07-31-2011, 08:11 AM
Yeah baby!....just like Downtown!! :happymug:

You're outta control, Martell. :bladesmith:

Dave Martell
07-31-2011, 01:13 PM
I love the look of tapered tangs and in this case it should add function as well by taking weight out of the handle area which is important on a thin knife that has ironwood scales. If it works out I'll continue to do this with the rest.

Dave Martell
07-31-2011, 09:43 PM
I am number 10 and I don't care what number is on it. Though ten is a nice looking number :)

k.


You might stay the same.....well maybe. :)


I just started prepping your scales tonight.

mr drinky
08-01-2011, 12:25 AM
Sweet!

Josh
08-01-2011, 05:06 PM
Any chance you can tell me what # I am in?

Dave Martell
08-01-2011, 06:17 PM
Any chance you can tell me what # I am in?


Is your middle name Josh and are you in Canada? If so then you're #21

Josh
08-01-2011, 06:48 PM
Thats me... wow I Was later than I thought!! 21 was a good year for me though...

Dave Martell
08-01-2011, 08:50 PM
I'm getting much faster at many of the processes involved so it shouldn't be all that long until I hit #21. :)

Dave Martell
08-01-2011, 11:55 PM
WooHoo!!! :bliss:

Wait. No no. Can't get excited. Causes days to pass too slowly...


Hey Ben, I'm holding your knife aside while I'm waiting for some smaller diameter pinstock to arrive this week. Just don't want you checking your email every 10 min waiting on me. :)

bprescot
08-02-2011, 12:05 AM
What? Like I would compulsively check a thread or email all hours of the day and night looking for updates? I mean, it's been a whole 15 minutes since you posted this before I responded!

Dave Martell
08-02-2011, 12:23 AM
:D

Kyle
08-02-2011, 01:38 PM
Sorry if I'm coming off as impatient (I'm just excited, honest!), but any idea when you'll have the first suji complete? :D

Dave Martell
08-02-2011, 02:00 PM
Hey I get it and understand. :D

The first suji is #8 knife that will be started once I receive the handle material from the customer.

Audi's or knives
08-04-2011, 09:40 PM
Hey Dave,

Hate to distract you from getting everyone's knives done but could you tell me what number knife I have. It'll be like the countdown to Xmas :biggrin:

Excellent work so far

Dave Martell
08-04-2011, 11:28 PM
Hey Dave,

Hate to distract you from getting everyone's knives done but could you tell me what number knife I have. It'll be like the countdown to Xmas :biggrin:

Excellent work so far


I believe that you're #15 :)

Audi's or knives
08-05-2011, 06:24 PM
Thanks Dave. Now get cracking so I can put that bad boy to use.

Dave Martell
08-05-2011, 06:27 PM
Thanks Dave. Now get cracking so I can put that bad boy to use.


Will do! :)

mhlee
08-08-2011, 02:31 PM
Dave:

Do you have an update on how the knives are coming along?

Thanks.

Dave Martell
08-08-2011, 04:28 PM
Dave:

Do you have an update on how the knives are coming along?

Thanks.


I'm working on the next couple in stages, I'm also waiting for bandsaw blades too.

Dave Martell
08-08-2011, 05:18 PM
Next to be seen should be a suji for Mr. J Chance :)

mhlee
08-09-2011, 12:52 PM
That's awesome Dave.

Dave Martell
08-12-2011, 05:17 PM
I lied about a suji being up next, looks like Karring's gyuto just took the lead. :)

mr drinky
08-12-2011, 05:59 PM
I lied about a suji being up next, looks like Karring's gyuto just took the lead. :)

Oh boy. Nothing is better than stuffing yourself with lamb and wine and coming back to read this.

k.

Dave Martell
08-12-2011, 09:46 PM
I just mounted up your scales so I can shape them this weekend - won't be long now.

Eamon Burke
08-17-2011, 08:53 PM
How long is it taking you to grind these, Dave? Not cutting a profile, but actually thinning and placing bevels.

Dave Martell
08-17-2011, 11:22 PM
I'm not sure exactly. I've been doing them a couple (or a few) at a time in stages and doing all sorts of other stuff at the same time.

Dave Martell
08-18-2011, 04:52 PM
Lost a suji to the overgrind. :sad0:

If it wasn't for pushing the thinness that we're looking for I could make knives all day long. It's the search for the wow factor that causes us to push and make the mistakes.

apicius9
08-18-2011, 04:54 PM
Maybe it's still good for a salmon slicer :)

Stefan

Dave Martell
08-18-2011, 05:00 PM
I may snap it in half ......just because.

Kyle
08-18-2011, 05:11 PM
Lost a suji to the overgrind. :sad0:

If it wasn't for pushing the thinness that we're looking for I could make knives all day long. It's the search for the wow factor that causes us to push and make the mistakes.

That's a bummer, but at least you're learning!

If it's any help by the time you get to my suji I'm not looking for razor thinness. I sold my Konosuke suji because it was too thin and flexible for my needs. :)

ecchef
08-18-2011, 07:11 PM
+1 on that.
I never liked anorexic women either.

ecchef
08-18-2011, 07:13 PM
Maybe it's still good for a salmon slicer :)

Stefan

Spray paint it black & mark it "Moritaka".

Dave Martell
08-18-2011, 07:14 PM
Just for the record I'm also with you guys on that but it's the edge thinness that's the ballbuster. I'm trying my best to find the balance between having an thin edge and a spine that's been thinned just enough so that it doesn't go all wonky in work.

Dave Martell
08-18-2011, 07:16 PM
Spray paint it black & mark it "Moritaka".


:rofl2::biggrin::tooth::happy2::spitcoffee::happy3 ::jumping3::lmao::D

JohnnyChance
08-19-2011, 12:22 AM
Ehh, just make it the first Martell petty.

Chef Niloc
08-19-2011, 12:57 AM
You could just sell them as DM 2nd's?? Works for MC

Dave Martell
08-19-2011, 10:46 AM
Maybe a 240mm suji?