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Bill Burke
05-19-2013, 07:28 PM
I was talking to a friend about the last Bob kramer knife that was actioned off and he asked if I thought that I could maintain that much control over my damascus. I said that I wasn't sure if I could or not so I had to give it a try. this is the resulting blade.

240mm long 2.5 mm spine above the heel and 50mm wide.

http://www.fototime.com/E67C4889C6A8482/large.jpg

Von blewitt
05-19-2013, 07:37 PM
Very Impressive Bill.

DevinT
05-19-2013, 07:39 PM
Did you make that from an old file?

Do you need some sand paper to get those lines out?

Really great job Bill.

Hoss

cclin
05-19-2013, 07:45 PM
wow! amazing Damascus Blade.....what is the composition of the Damascus?? may I put dibs on this one if you going to sale it??:D

cclin
05-19-2013, 07:55 PM
cancel...repeat post

Mrmnms
05-19-2013, 07:59 PM
Pretty outrageous . Looks like a great profile too.

Bill Burke
05-19-2013, 09:15 PM
Did you make that from an old file?

Do you need some sand paper to get those lines out?

Really great job Bill.

Hoss

Hoss It took me a long time to figure out how to get the oil floating on my echant to swirl in the right way to get that pattern so Thanks for the offer but I'll leave the lines on it.

I don't know how you figured out about the files though.

Bill Burke
05-19-2013, 09:16 PM
wow! amazing Damascus Blade.....what is the composition of the Damascus?? may I put dibs on this one if you going to sale it??:D

it is 52100, 1084, 15n20. it is going to blade show with me but if it comes home you can have dibs.

Bill Burke
05-19-2013, 09:17 PM
thanks for the kind replies everyone.

ejd53
05-20-2013, 11:07 AM
Control??? You call that control??? So do I; magnificent job Bill. :ubersexy::jawdrop: I always knew that Kramer has nothing on the makers on this board. :saythat:

JMJones
05-20-2013, 12:12 PM
Great pattern!

Crothcipt
05-20-2013, 07:16 PM
Did you use a s grind, or as Salty calls it "roller wave" grind there? It looks like it in the pic.. Or is that just the light playing with the damascus?

marc4pt0
05-20-2013, 08:13 PM
Whaaaaa? Get the funk out of here! Nicely done, nicely done. Still wish I could make it till the blade show!

mr drinky
05-20-2013, 09:14 PM
Is this one going to Blade too?

k.

cclin
05-20-2013, 09:25 PM
it is 52100, 1084, 15n20. it is going to blade show with me but if it comes home you can have dibs.

Bill,
thanks!

Bill Burke
05-21-2013, 01:03 AM
Did you use a s grind, or as Salty calls it "roller wave" grind there? It looks like it in the pic.. Or is that just the light playing with the damascus?

Ha Ha, NO. All the knives that I make are convex ground from spine to zero edge then sharpened so it is just the light.

Yep it is going to blade show with the others.

Bill Burke
05-21-2013, 01:04 AM
Thanks again guys you're too kind.

GLE1952
05-21-2013, 01:07 AM
That is stunning!

Glen

Lefty
05-21-2013, 11:45 AM
Beautiful work, Bill! Makes me wish I had either one of your knives, already, the cash to get one, or the skill to make one just like yours. :D

To say Kramer's got nothing on the makers here is an overstatement, but I think you have proven, time and again, that you deserve to be mentioned as in the same class as him. Now, how do we get you an article in New York Times?

Mike Davis
05-21-2013, 04:15 PM
Hot damn Bill!!! That is ultra sexy!!! Three thumbs up!

Bill Burke
05-21-2013, 09:06 PM
Thanks again guys. What kind of handle do you guys think?

cclin
05-21-2013, 09:33 PM
hidden tang handle with Honduran Rosewood Burl or full musk ox

Von blewitt
05-21-2013, 09:44 PM
Full tang walrus ivory :)

Bill Burke
05-22-2013, 10:49 AM
I've been thinking explosion damascus bolsters with a darker burly wood.

Lefty
05-22-2013, 11:28 AM
I say go Kramer-esque, to prove you can make one just as nice (or nicer?) Go with mokume/or dammy bolster, and ironwood scales. How do you feel about brass bolsters and pins?

Customfan
05-22-2013, 11:40 AM
+ 1. I second that! :thumbsup:

Dave Martell
05-22-2013, 01:07 PM
Bill you've got the skillz to pay the billz - awesome!

Johnny.B.Good
05-22-2013, 05:57 PM
One of these days I'm going to have to try to learn how patterns like this are created in steel. Random I can understand, but not this.

Impressive.

Don Nguyen
05-22-2013, 11:08 PM
Ha Ha, NO. All the knives that I make are convex ground from spine to zero edge then sharpened so it is just the light.

Bill what are your thoughts on the "roller wave"? That was a very distinguished NO so I'm curious on your opinion on them.

Bill Burke
05-22-2013, 11:28 PM
Bill what are your thoughts on the "roller wave"? That was a very distinguished NO so I'm curious on your opinion on them.

Don, I Have never actually Had One of Bob's knives in My hand so don't really have Much to say about it. It is possible that the hollow is there to help reduce weight in the blade and thin things out behind the edge. I can see a possible need for this with Bob's wide blade style.

These are just some random thoughts though.

Bill Burke
05-22-2013, 11:34 PM
I say go Kramer-esque, to prove you can make one just as nice (or nicer?) Go with mokume/or dammy bolster, and ironwood scales. How do you feel about brass bolsters and pins?

I don't mind Brass at all, I use it for most of my hunting/pronghorn style knives. I do like the idea but whent ahead with the damascus bolsters today, but I can still go with Iron wood.

Don Nguyen
05-23-2013, 12:09 AM
Don, I Have never actually Had One of Bob's knives in My hand so don't really have Much to say about it. It is possible that the hollow is there to help reduce weight in the blade and thin things out behind the edge. I can see a possible need for this with Bob's wide blade style.

These are just some random thoughts though.

That makes sense - I didn't think about the height of his knives.

But wow, 2.5mm thickness convexed to a zero edge. The edge doesn't get too frail when it gets so thin? Do you have to go absurdly slow on the grinder (or even by hand) when you get close to thickness? Even on slowest setting on the KMG it seems like steel can still get very hot with thin cross sections.

Bill Burke
05-23-2013, 12:09 PM
That makes sense - I didn't think about the height of his knives.

But wow, 2.5mm thickness convexed to a zero edge. The edge doesn't get too frail when it gets so thin? Do you have to go absurdly slow on the grinder (or even by hand) when you get close to thickness? Even on slowest setting on the KMG it seems like steel can still get very hot with thin cross sections.

It can get hot but if you use new belts and a slow speed it is not too bad. I grind by hand with no gloves so I feel the heat build up before it gets hot enough to affect the temper of the blade. My "normal" grind is not very fragile but I have ground some very thin cross sections that I thought could be.

Nasr
05-27-2013, 12:49 PM
Hey Bill
Thanks for directing me to this forum
Looks like I may have found a new eCave

Pattern and control is spectacular
Look forward to seeing this one completed
Congrats

Bill Burke
05-28-2013, 12:21 AM
thanks Riad.

Burl Source
06-12-2013, 11:35 PM
Did you ever take photos of the finished knife?
I bet it turned out great.

scott6452
06-15-2013, 03:13 PM
Finished article :bigeek:

http://www.epicedge.com/pics/91519_1_b.jpg

Johnny.B.Good
06-15-2013, 04:10 PM
Stunning.

I love the simple, dark handle.

Justin0505
06-15-2013, 04:48 PM
The skill that goes into making that pattern always impressed me, but astetically i never got that excited because its difficult to ballance a pattern like that with the rest of the materials, so most times the end result is too busy. However, that knife (astetically) is perhaps the closest to (imo) a perfectly balaced and executed example as I've ever seen. Great choice on the bolster and handle material, proportions, angles, etc.
Very
Very
Impressive

Burl Source
06-15-2013, 05:17 PM
:shocked3:
WOW!!!!

Nasr
06-15-2013, 05:55 PM
stunning knife ..an artisan in command of his medium ...Perfect

Crothcipt
06-15-2013, 09:33 PM
I like yours a lot better than Kramers. Not sure why the difference, but then I am not going back and forth looking for differences. I agree with the choice on bolster, and handle.

danielomalley
06-15-2013, 11:54 PM
The finished knife with several additional photos is now posted on Epicurean Edge. You can see it here:

http://www.epicedge.com/shopexd.asp?id=91519

I especially love how Bill alternated images in light and dark tones. Really nice coke bottle shaped handle. The ziricote wood has a walnut-like tone with a really nice, convoluted figure.

-daniel


Did you ever take photos of the finished knife?
I bet it turned out great.

Von blewitt
06-16-2013, 12:11 AM
The finished knife with several additional photos is now posted on Epicurean Edge. You can see it here:

http://www.epicedge.com/shopexd.asp?id=91519

I especially love how Bill alternated images in light and dark tones. Really nice coke bottle shaped handle. The ziricote wood has a walnut-like tone with a really nice, convoluted figure.

-daniel
Daniel, I've been ogling the photos on your site all morning!!! I'd love to see a short video of the knife if it was possible.

Justin0505
06-16-2013, 04:48 AM
The finished knife with several additional photos is now posted on Epicurean Edge. You can see it here:

http://www.epicedge.com/shopexd.asp?id=91519

I especially love how Bill alternated images in light and dark tones. Really nice coke bottle shaped handle. The ziricote wood has a walnut-like tone with a really nice, convoluted figure.

-daniel

Prettier than a Kramer, better profile, and fewer 0's in the price... what a deal!

Nasr
06-16-2013, 01:15 PM
Im Happy That its sold..The torment was becoming unbearable
Hope somebody here snagged her and will put it through the paces..Bills Knives are Beast!

Lefty
06-24-2013, 10:45 AM
Finished article :bigeek:

http://www.epicedge.com/pics/91519_1_b.jpg

I don' know how I kept missing this. I was looking around for pictures and finally found them...not sure why it was so hard, but still.... This knife looks virility ally perfect! I love the mild, yet stunning handle paired with the damascus. Gorgeous, Bill!

Bill Burke
06-24-2013, 07:56 PM
I don' know how I kept missing this. I was looking around for pictures and finally found them...not sure why it was so hard, but still.... This knife looks virility ally perfect! I love the mild, yet stunning handle paired with the damascus. Gorgeous, Bill!

thanks all. this was a fun knife to do.

Lefty
06-24-2013, 08:52 PM
Haha. I swear I wasn't drunk at 10:45am....

ChuckTheButcher
07-04-2013, 12:16 AM
I believe this is the mosaic damascus knife I bought on BG last month. The high light of my collection. I really really love this knife.

Von blewitt
07-04-2013, 12:18 AM
Nice score Chuck! Beautiful blade

Crothcipt
07-04-2013, 12:21 AM
I believe this is the mosaic damascus knife I bought on BG last month. The high light of my collection. I really really love this knife.

BG???

Von blewitt
07-04-2013, 12:22 AM
Blade gallery Aka Epicurian edge

Crothcipt
07-04-2013, 12:33 AM
cool, BG means somthing totally dif. to me. (battle ground) To much a wow nerd.

Bill13
07-11-2013, 03:49 PM
I believe this is the mosaic damascus knife I bought on BG last month. The high light of my collection. I really really love this knife.

Chuck, Are you using this at the Green Pig?:justkidding: If you bring it in one day I would love to stop by and gawk!

ChuckTheButcher
07-11-2013, 08:21 PM
This is one knife I don't often bring to work. To risky. If you let me know in advance I'd bring it in though.