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dannynyc
05-22-2013, 02:57 PM
I'm a bit confused about the Sakai Yusuke gyutos in White #2. I've heard smatterings about the forum that there is a thicker, more substantial version, and a thinner, laser-like version. The 270mms on bluewayjapan appear to have a 2.4mm wide spine, which is definitely in the laser category. Does anyone know if there is a more substantial model and, if there is, if it still has the Masamoto KS profile, and finally where it can be purchased?

Thanks.:thankyou:

turbochef422
05-22-2013, 03:13 PM
There is and blueway has them and they sell out within a day. Last time there was one or two and gone pretty fast

labor of love
05-22-2013, 03:19 PM
dannynyc, the word is that these "thicker" 2.8 gyutos are running behind...many of us have been waiting over 6 monthes for them. a couple have popped up every now again on blue way but they sell instantly. you can just make a custom order with blue way if you really want to but you may have to wait quite a while. blue way refers to the KS profile as the "flatter profile" . Keiichi is the guy that runs blueway, and he is pretty quick at answering questions. maybe you could ask him for an ETA?

dannynyc
05-22-2013, 03:25 PM
Thanks. Just to clarify, are the "flatter profile"/KS gyutos synonymous with the "thicker" ones?

don
05-22-2013, 03:25 PM
Here's specs for the thicker 240mm in Flat Profile.

Japanese Sakai Yusuke White Steel Wa-Gyuto Knife 240mm Extra Thick Flat Profile

FEATURES

Brand---Sakai Yusuke
Blade--- Double-Beveled Yasuki ShiroKouNo.2(White No.2 Steel) made from iron-sand/Hitachi Metal
Handle---Octagon Hou Wood(Magnolia) with buffalo horn collar
Blade Length---235mm(9.3")/from tip to heel
Blade Length---245mm(9.6")/from tip to handle
Total Length---385mm(15.2")
Spine Thickness---2.8mm/at heel
Blade Height---47mm(1.9")/at heel
Weight---170gr(5.6oz)
Hardness---61-62 HRC
Sharpning---Both edges evenly
Care---Hand wash with mild soap. Do not place in dishwasher.
Wash with mild soap first time to remove protective material.
Note---Do not use to any frozen foods

I have not seen a Thick non-Flat knife offered by Keiichi/bluewayjapan. Might require a special order.

labor of love
05-22-2013, 03:27 PM
theres flatter profile 2.4mm spine thickness gyutos(lasers) and flatter profile 2.8 thickness spine gyutos...i think the 2.8 spines are going to cost a little bit more than the 2.4 spines...

dannynyc
05-22-2013, 03:54 PM
Thanks everyone, question answered.

dannynyc
05-22-2013, 06:20 PM
Actually, sorry, I do have one nagging question, are the lasers currently available based on the KS profile? They don't say anything about a "flatter profile," but the photos make them look damn similar to the KS.

berko
05-22-2013, 06:55 PM
as far as i know they are not available at the moment.

labor of love
05-22-2013, 07:26 PM
The 240s that are available aren't flatter profiled, I already asked. But the "regular" profile is a little flatter than they used to be IMO and others....

dannynyc
05-22-2013, 10:40 PM
Which causes me to wonder, given so much enthusiasm for flatter profiles, why more makers aren't coming out with them.

sachem allison
05-22-2013, 11:15 PM
tradition

mpukas
05-22-2013, 11:24 PM
flatter = cooler

labor of love
05-22-2013, 11:46 PM
There's going to be another big name making flatter profile gyutos soon...people are definitely paying attention.

keithsaltydog
05-23-2013, 06:01 AM
Flat profiles is certainly nothing new,Chinese & Japanese have been making them along time.Check out the Tobacco knives in Japan in the 1500's.The more traditional Japanese Gyuto style is drop nose,the Santoku is just a shorter version of these blades.

dannynyc
05-23-2013, 11:02 AM
There's going to be another big name making flatter profile gyutos soon...people are definitely paying attention.

Is this a prediction, or do you know something we don't know?

labor of love
05-23-2013, 04:13 PM
I think several people know what I'm talking about...but I wouldn't really feel comfortable discussing specifics openly, point being is that makers are taking notice of the popularity of flatter profile gyutos.

dannynyc
05-23-2013, 04:13 PM
I think several people know what I'm talking about...but I wouldn't really feel comfortable discussing specifics openly, point being is that makers are taking notice of the popularity of flatter profile gyutos.

Ok, just being nosy. I'll try to be patient.

panda
05-23-2013, 04:48 PM
i'd love to try a funayuki profiled thick yusuke in aeb but they are never in stock and only do them in white steel? only thing holding me back from trying a masa ks is it's not tall enough and the 270 runs long.

bkultra
05-23-2013, 05:01 PM
i'd love to try a funayuki profiled thick yusuke in aeb but they are never in stock and only do them in white steel? only thing holding me back from trying a masa ks is it's not tall enough and the 270 runs long.

How tall do you like your knives? My Masamoto Honyaki is 49mm tall

panda
05-23-2013, 05:07 PM
above 50 at least

chinacats
05-23-2013, 05:28 PM
i'd love to try a funayuki profiled thick yusuke in aeb but they are never in stock and only do them in white steel? only thing holding me back from trying a masa ks is it's not tall enough and the 270 runs long.

I believe the 240's also run long?

dannynyc
05-23-2013, 05:30 PM
Yeah, the fact that the 270mm yusukes are actually 265mm long is what makes them appealing to me. More than 270mm in a thicker knife is too much for me.

bkultra
05-23-2013, 06:32 PM
I believe the 240's also run long?

Yes my 240mm has a blade length of 252mm

dannynyc
05-23-2013, 06:34 PM
Yes my 240mm has a blade length of 252mm

You're talking about the Yusuke or the Masamoto?

bkultra
05-23-2013, 06:35 PM
The masamoto