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mainaman
05-19-2011, 08:56 PM
Ashi Hamono made a custom spec cleaver for me, it is on its way from Japan.
I like cleavers that are 400-450 g, and standard #6 is 500-550g, so I contacted Ashi Hamono to see if they can make a custom spec one for me, I wanted 400-450g weight, which comes from thinner spine.
They said they can make such cleaver, it turns out they were afraid the blade will not be straight because the blade is so thin, but it worked out great, and here is the result:

White 2 steel

blade length = 225mm
blade height = 110mm (at heel), 105mm(at tip)
spine thickness = 2.1mm(above heel), 1.2mm(above tip)
weight = approx 420gr

Handle looks flawless unlike most cleavers we see.

http://i51.tinypic.com/y03k4.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/2ed2ftd.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/alrgb7.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/k1fd5t.jpg

tgraypots
05-19-2011, 08:59 PM
Sweet. I enjoy the heck outta my el-cheapo cleaver. The one you have heading your way looks awesome!

Seb
05-19-2011, 09:04 PM
Dayum! I can't wait to hear what you think of it! :)

I have the standard #6 and it is a little heavy for me since I don't use it every day. I'm thinking of getting something a little smaller and lighter. After I pick up my Blazen (and the rest lol).

mainaman
05-19-2011, 09:05 PM
Dayum! I can't wait to hear what you think of it! :)

I have the standard #6 and it is a little heavy for me since I don't use it every day. I'm thinking of getting something a little smaller and lighter. After I pick up my Blazen (and the rest lol).

and the price is well really hard to beat for the steel and the custom factor.

Seb
05-19-2011, 09:19 PM
and the price is well really hard to beat for the steel and the custom factor.

Not to mention the exceptional Fit and Finish for a chuka. And also not to mention the turnaround time for a custom - I think they finished mine about a week after receiving the order, it was really really quick!

I hope you will be pleased with the steel performance too.

Three Cheers for Ashi-san and Ashi Hamono!!

sw2geeks
05-19-2011, 09:33 PM
Very nice!

Potato42
05-19-2011, 09:51 PM
Awesome. I too, prefer my cleavers a bit lighter and smaller. When I had mine custom made from Konosuke I asked for one 210x100mm and made sure it would be thin. It is still my goto knife. I have had a really special one on order a long time now that will hopefully be in my possession soon...

echerub
05-20-2011, 10:22 AM
Looks really nice! :)

malacara
05-20-2011, 01:34 PM
yes, looks really nice :thumbsup:

stereo.pete
05-20-2011, 11:26 PM
Mainaman,

You are always impressing me with these custom orders. Your custom Shig sent me over the top, which had me contacting Dr. Naka and ordering a 240mm Shige Kitaeji Gyuto for my upcoming birthday! Stop posting pictures, I'm going broke quick.

Seb
05-21-2011, 12:11 AM
The distal taper looks insane!

mainaman
05-21-2011, 01:15 AM
The distal taper looks insane!

yes 2.1mm at heel, 1.2mm at tip very nice, and actually thinner than what I asked them to do.

Seb
05-21-2011, 01:49 AM
yes 2.1mm at heel, 1.2mm at tip very nice, and actually thinner than what I asked them to do.

LOL Omigosh!

I think I will ask for something similarly tapered for my next order. Maybe 210x100x2.1-1.2mm. And I also have to decide between another White#2 or 'Swedish Stainless' @58-59HRC.

FUN! :D

mainaman
05-21-2011, 01:55 AM
LOL Omigosh!

I think I will ask for something similarly tapered for my next order. Maybe 210x100x2.1-1.2mm. And I also have to decide between another White#2 or 'Swedish Stainless' @58-59HRC.

FUN! :D
yes hehe, in retrospect I wonder if they would go higher HRC upon request as long as the steel allows it?

Seb
05-21-2011, 01:59 AM
yes hehe, in retrospect I wonder if they would go higher HRC upon request as long as the steel allows it?

Uncanny, you read my mind!!

peterm
05-21-2011, 08:25 AM
and the price is well really hard to beat for the steel and the custom factor.

What kind of ballpark prices is it?
Nice work!

maxim
05-21-2011, 08:40 AM
Sweet !!! :jumpy:

sashae
05-24-2011, 06:12 PM
Wow, that looks fantastic. Have you received it yet? Any feedback?

tim0mit
05-24-2011, 06:58 PM
Wow that is gorgeous I need to jump on the cleaver bandwagon too!

mainaman
05-24-2011, 07:11 PM
Wow, that looks fantastic. Have you received it yet? Any feedback?

I might get it tomorrow.

peterm
05-24-2011, 09:05 PM
Great, keep us posted!

mainaman
05-24-2011, 09:07 PM
what I found out is that the steel is taken to HRC 62-63, I like it.

Seb
05-24-2011, 10:10 PM
That's really interesting. I asked how high the AEB-L on my proposed Swedish Stainless cleaver could be taken to and the reply was 60 because any higher and it would be too brittle (standard for stainless cleavers is 59, apparently).

mainaman
05-24-2011, 10:37 PM
yes I was expecting lower HRC but 62-63 sounds very good.

peterm
05-26-2011, 04:51 PM
I think I may also have to try a custom cleaver from them. It is too hard to resist. Can't wait to hear how yours turns out!

mainaman
05-26-2011, 05:21 PM
I got it today, man this is the definition of laser for a cleaver.
Made really well, handle work is flawless. Distal taper is amazing, cuts really easy right OOTB, the geometry is the best I have seen, and I have tried Suien VC, Tadatsuna, Misono. The only cleaver that had similar geometry was the Yoshikane I I owned.
I'll post some pics later.

So far I am very impressed.

Andy777
05-27-2011, 01:14 AM
That is pretty badass, congrats. Thanks for posting this. Man, I know I'm done buying knives but some of these really pique my interest. I'm looking forward to more pics and impressions.

Seb
05-27-2011, 01:52 AM
I have the standard 225x110mm Ashi Ginga White#2 Chuka and that thing is already thin - just trying to imagine what this one is like is enough to blow my mind!! Twice!!

Anyone in Sydney wants to buy mine, I'm open to offers!

mainaman
05-27-2011, 08:01 PM
Ok tried to take some pics of the geometry heel and tip side:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2wgx739.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/24mhsf5.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/2kew6h.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/2z5prmh.jpg

Pretty thin stuff, those guys did a superb job, the grind is flawless.

Seb
05-27-2011, 08:07 PM
Shee-it!! The tip is so thin, it could be in another dimension!!

I was looking at mine last night and thought 'gee, I can't imagine it could get much thinner than that' - now I know it can.

Cnimativ
05-27-2011, 08:11 PM
wow that is a extremely thin blade...

peterm
05-27-2011, 08:44 PM
Wow that looks nice. What do you think after a day of using it?

mainaman
05-27-2011, 09:20 PM
I like it a lot, cuts very easy because of the geometry, I am yet to put it to the stones.

echerub
05-27-2011, 10:27 PM
Yowza, that looks nice! :)

mainaman
05-27-2011, 10:45 PM
Just sharpened it, took very fine edge, and very easy to sharpen.
Because it is so thin behind the edge the bevels are very narrow I like that.

For the whooping price of $225 it is IMHO great value for a custom spec cleaver.

Seb
05-27-2011, 11:16 PM
Just sharpened it, took very fine edge, and very easy to sharpen.
Because it is so thin behind the edge the bevels are very narrow I like that.

For the whooping price of $225 it is IMHO great value for a custom spec cleaver.

+ 1 to that.

I am also deeply impressed with the way the steel performs on mine.

IMO, Ashi Hamono deserves a lot more love. A year or so ago, they were hardly spoken about until Keiichi, DrNaka and I noticed their similarity with the Sakai Yusuke family of knives.

mainaman
05-27-2011, 11:22 PM
What really surprised me there is no overcharge for customization. They said they did not think it will work that thin, they expected the blade to not be straight so I guess it is actually a bit tricky to get it right. Anyway highly recommend to those that are interested in cleavers.

Seb
05-27-2011, 11:36 PM
From what I understand, even the regular chukas are made to order - mine was (within a week!!).

peterm
05-28-2011, 08:58 AM
Did you ask for anything different from their standard design other than thinner?

mainaman
05-28-2011, 09:14 AM
Did you ask for anything different from their standard design other than thinner?

no

mateo
05-28-2011, 12:34 PM
Looking nice! Would you be able to measure heel, tip and middle height (at the highest) of the blade, just to get an idea for the belly! Thanks... here's another options in the cleaver hunt!

mainaman
05-28-2011, 12:37 PM
Looking nice! Would you be able to measure heel, tip and middle height (at the highest) of the blade, just to get an idea for the belly! Thanks... here's another options in the cleaver hunt!
heel is 110mm, middle is 109mm, tip is 105 mm. Not much belly at all, at least by my standards.

peterm
06-04-2011, 02:40 PM
How do you feel about it after using it for a few days? Any changes to your initial opinion?

mainaman
06-04-2011, 02:49 PM
nope it works just fine