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PierreRodrigue
06-05-2013, 06:32 PM
So this is the knife that took top honors. What are your thoughts on this one?

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knyfeknerd
06-05-2013, 06:42 PM
LAME
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LAME
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LAME:stinker::O:stinker::nah:

AFKitchenknivesguy
06-05-2013, 06:43 PM
Good grief, not another Ken Onion. Looks the same as the Shun version, but cheaper. When will people learn.

Don Nguyen
06-05-2013, 06:43 PM
What was the other competition like?

Dream Burls
06-05-2013, 06:54 PM
Been there, done that. Disappointing.

Noodle Soup
06-05-2013, 06:58 PM
There were fairly few commercial kitchen knives being offered at the show. I did notice Emerson Knives now has their own line but I don't think you would have liked them any better. I don't know if the customs were allowed in this competition, but the maker still has to enter his knife to be in the running. Not everyone likes to do that.
I handled the new Onions and didn't find them that bad. But they are still purely Onion. There really isn't any point in designing a knife that looks like every other French/German/Japanese chef. There would be no reason for anyone to buy the design from you. Throw out all the traditional patterns and try to come up with something totally new that anyone will pay you for the rights to. It isn't easy but Ken has done pretty well at it.

Notaskinnychef
06-05-2013, 07:33 PM
I've always liked the handle on the ken onion shuns, comfy for a pinch grip but way overpriced and too much belly

stereo.pete
06-05-2013, 08:21 PM
I think this just goes to show you that 90% of what is going on in the world of knives is not kitchen related, hence why this won Blade. The world of kitchen cutlery is far removed from at least 90% of the general populace (including many knife nuts). Also, from the images of knives at Blade show and the price they are selling for, why make a fancy kitchen knife that will sell for maybe $500-$750 unless your Devin Thomas, Bill Burke or Michael Rader when you can make a fancy jewel encrusted bowie knife that sells for $2,000. Sure, I am over simplifying everything but this is just my opinion.

P.S. Good to see you posting again Pierre!

Dave Martell
06-05-2013, 09:18 PM
Good grief, not another Ken Onion. Looks the same as the Shun version, but cheaper. When will people learn.


That's exactly what hit me.

Dave Martell
06-05-2013, 09:24 PM
Wait a minute....that actually IS a Ken Onion? :slaphead:

What the hell is ChefWorks?

mr drinky
06-05-2013, 09:28 PM
But did you see how thin that knife cut that eggplant??? And it also looks as if it cut an onion in half!!! Like, right in half. Amazing.

k.

Dave Martell
06-05-2013, 09:29 PM
ChefWorks = Lamson



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbT0P85K_Io

Dave Martell
06-05-2013, 09:44 PM
I wonder if this guy gets co-credit on the award? :D


http://www.sillem.it/sites/default/files/imagecache/products_slideshow/slides/robotic_cells-14.jpg

Don Nguyen
06-05-2013, 09:54 PM
I once asked the price on a 6-axis arm. I never asked again.

(It was $90k)

PierreRodrigue
06-05-2013, 10:07 PM
I think this just goes to show you that 90% of what is going on in the world of knives is not kitchen related, hence why this won Blade. The world of kitchen cutlery is far removed from at least 90% of the general populace (including many knife nuts). Also, from the images of knives at Blade show and the price they are selling for, why make a fancy kitchen knife that will sell for maybe $500-$750 unless your Devin Thomas, Bill Burke or Michael Rader when you can make a fancy jewel encrusted bowie knife that sells for $2,000. Sure, I am over simplifying everything but this is just my opinion.

P.S. Good to see you posting again Pierre!


Thanks Peter! I had 3 hours so far this week to my self when I wasn't working, or sleeping... Whew!!

I would tend to agree with your view on this. and the fact BLADE is mostly tactical, hunter, folder, and high end customs. The reason I posted the inital photo and question was to stir the pot a little. It has to be one of the oddest shaped knives out there for kitchen use. Reminds me a little of Guy F's series as far as profile goes.

BUT! Its a kitchen knife, it showed at BLADE, and there is a category for it. I thought that in its self is a step in the right direction. I didn't see the video Dave found before. Its kinda cool that Ken has a vision to have a 100% made in the USA series of kitchen knives, with unique design, profile and ergonomics. Its like bringing a stainless steel gull-wing door car to a stock car race, but hey, at least it was entered, and be damned if it didn't win. Anybody else see what the competition looked like?

Noodle Soup
06-05-2013, 11:02 PM
No but at least Ken's line wasn't like those terrible Chris Reeve kitchen knives that won a few years ago. Those didn't exactly set the world on fire like some at the show thought they would.

Noodle Soup
06-05-2013, 11:04 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention that the mayonnaise jar scrapping knife design that used to be in the Shun line is back in this group. I guess Ken must like mayonnaise.

markenki
06-05-2013, 11:17 PM
:puke:

Crothcipt
06-06-2013, 02:33 AM
Chef works= very uncomfortable chef pants. Looks like they are going into the crappy knives market too.

Brad Gibson
06-06-2013, 01:48 PM
Chef works= very uncomfortable chef pants. Looks like they are going into the crappy knives market too.

If you buy two pairs of large sized chef pants one will be extra large and one will be medium. Worst **** of the century.

Ken onion is making knives for the retarded culinary students of America. Those knives are a tragedy.

Mucho Bocho
06-06-2013, 02:10 PM
He're the catalogue

http://issuu.com/chefworks/docs/rain_series

SpikeC
06-06-2013, 04:51 PM
A Santility knife???

Salty dog
06-06-2013, 05:33 PM
It's very different from what I've come to recognize as a good knife.

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Zwiefel
06-06-2013, 05:40 PM
It's very different from what I've come to recognize as a good knife.

(I decided to cut it down from 3 paragraphs to one sentence)

absolutely love this response. It's the kind of thing I'd say in my day job...knowing that 1/2 the room would view it as a gentle comment and the other 1/2 would view it as the most damning comment available. Nice Salty.

GlassEye
06-06-2013, 08:29 PM
It's very different from what I've come to recognize as a good knife.

(I decided to cut it down from 3 paragraphs to one sentence)
The other day someone (an acquaintance) mentioned they were selling Cutco (between college semesters) and someone who knows I am a knife enthusiast asked my opinion on Cutco; I wish that was response.

Dave Martell
06-06-2013, 09:40 PM
It's very different from what I've come to recognize as a good knife.

(I decided to cut it down from 3 paragraphs to one sentence)


:lol2::rofl2::lol2::rofl2::lol2::rofl2::lol2::rofl 2::lol2::rofl2:

Dave Martell
06-06-2013, 09:43 PM
A Santility knife???


I just had to check out what this was.....wish I hadn't.

SpikeC
06-06-2013, 09:54 PM
It is the "Knife of the Rear"!!

Crothcipt
06-06-2013, 11:29 PM
I went looking yesterday very quickly, I didn't find any prices. Them being damascas I'm sure they are way to expensive esp. for that company.

DevinT
06-07-2013, 12:14 AM
I think that is just a finish on the blade and not damascus.

Hoss

bdwfe53
06-07-2013, 01:12 AM
So have you tried the new Blade winner? Actually a pretty cool knife, and its been quite a while since a blade made from Pennsylvania steel and finished in the US could compete. Sure Ken Onion has his signature look all over these, but it must work, as the response from retailers has been tremendous. First runs are already sold out..And the launch is a month or so away.

Dave Martell
06-07-2013, 01:56 AM
So have you tried the new Blade winner? Actually a pretty cool knife, and its been quite a while since a blade made from Pennsylvania steel and finished in the US could compete. Sure Ken Onion has his signature look all over these, but it must work, as the response from retailers has been tremendous. First runs are already sold out..And the launch is a month or so away.


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About bdwfe53Biography:Have been involved in sales, marketing, and development of many kitchen cutlery lines and products, Starting with original Chicago Cutlery, and then Dexter Russell Harrington, a stint at Wilkinson, then Viking and recently Messermeister, and also Chef Works

DevinT
06-07-2013, 07:33 AM
So have you tried the new Blade winner? Actually a pretty cool knife, and its been quite a while since a blade made from Pennsylvania steel and finished in the US could compete. Sure Ken Onion has his signature look all over these, but it must work, as the response from retailers has been tremendous. First runs are already sold out..And the launch is a month or so away.

Please tell me more about the finish on the blades. What steel is being used for the blades? Does the texture on the blade prevent food from sticking? What is the handle material?

Hoss

Noodle Soup
06-07-2013, 09:30 AM
I have their catalog. The blades are "high performance stainless steel." The blade pattern is added with a "proprietary process to reduce surface tension and drag coefficient" and the handles are G10. No prices were included.
While not every design in the line appealed to me, I didn't think the basic designs were near as bad as some here are making them out. They are pure Onion and many people like that. To each his own.

DevinT
06-07-2013, 11:41 AM
Thanks NS, someone told me that they are using Carpenter BD1 stainless steel for these. If so, with good heat treatment, they should hold up pretty good.

I do applaud Ken for getting out there and talking to some people doing the cutting, and trying to improve the design and functionality of kitchen knives. I doubt that these will have the impact that his speed safe folders did. I paid too much money one time for a wiz bang thermostat that could supposedly do all kinds of stuff, in the end I only wanted to adjust it as needed. Simple is good.

Hoss

Noodle Soup
06-07-2013, 12:09 PM
Double post, sorry about that

Noodle Soup
06-07-2013, 12:23 PM
Simple is good but it won't make you royalties for a new design. Ken had to come up with something unique looking to sell anything to the big guys. Same goes for selling your knives at SLT. If they look just like all the others why should anyone but the most knowledgeable pick yours over whatever is less expensive?

Mrmnms
06-07-2013, 12:23 PM
I wonder how many guys here have used any Ken Onion knives and have a strong opinion good, bad or otherwise.

Noodle Soup
06-07-2013, 12:24 PM
Depends on the model. I like some better than others but that is true in any knife line