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Cnimativ
05-22-2011, 04:10 AM
Saw these 2 King sharpening stones at my local market at very low price, in teens. But what are the difference between these and the one that's carried by the cutlery/woodwork stores?

King Home Whetstone. #1000 Grit. Model K-45
http://imageshack.us/m/560/295/05212011959.jpg

and King Combination Whetstone. #330/#800 Grit? Model K-80.
http://imageshack.us/m/809/338/05212011960.jpg

Seb
05-22-2011, 05:15 AM
Size?

Cnimativ
05-22-2011, 05:38 AM
Didn't measure, but pretty standard sizing, I think. Around ~20cm/~7cm/~2cm? K-45 has a plastic stand and K-80 is obviously thicker since its double sided.

MadMel
05-22-2011, 05:38 AM
Authenticity?

Seb
05-22-2011, 05:40 AM
Where is your local market then?

Can't read the kanji, btw.

Cnimativ
05-22-2011, 05:53 AM
Authenticity?

No way for me to tell since I never own any whetstone worth more than $10 and I do not know the website for King.


Where is your local market then?

Can't read the kanji, btw.

SF Bay Area.

On the top picture:
King
Home Whetstone
Stainless, normal sharp object use.
Grid #1000, medium/high.

Bottom picture is too blurry. I blame my 4 years old camera phone. The grid # is probably all wrong.

Lefty
05-22-2011, 07:30 AM
King stones are cheap to begin with, so they could well be authentic and just brought in as an off-sale or perhaps the market got them in combination with other items.
If you're doubting them, just get a real one at a reputable dealer. You really won't drop much money going the safe way anyways.
I'm really against fakes, so rather than potentially help a vendor push a knock-off, I'll go somewhere that I know it's authentic.
In my opinion, kings are a great way to go for your first Japanese Waterstone. They're affordable, reliable, and you can really learn a lot on them, such as how to vary a finish with different amounts of water/slurry and playing with your techniques, as they aren't super aggressive cutters.

MadMel
05-22-2011, 08:15 AM
King stones are cheap to begin with, so they could well be authentic and just brought in as an off-sale or perhaps the market got them in combination with other items.
If you're doubting them, just get a real one at a reputable dealer. You really won't drop much money going the safe way anyways.
I'm really against fakes, so rather than potentially help a vendor push a knock-off, I'll go somewhere that I know it's authentic.
In my opinion, kings are a great way to go for your first Japanese Waterstone. They're affordable, reliable, and you can really learn a lot on them, such as how to vary a finish with different amounts of water/slurry and playing with your techniques, as they aren't super aggressive cutters.

+1 on that. The grit sizes you choose would depend on how hard the steel on your knife is. I would take a 1k/6k King combo.

Dave Martell
05-22-2011, 10:01 AM
If I'm correct in my understanding.....

Letter = Grit

Number = Size

rockbox
05-22-2011, 10:27 AM
That K-80 is not the same as normal 1000 grit king stone. It does not get nearly as muddy. I bought it at SLT out of curiosity. I don't know about the other one. They sell King stone under the ice bear brand and woodcraft.




Saw these 2 King sharpening stones at my local market at very low price, in teens. But what are the difference between these and the one that's carried by the cutlery/woodwork stores?

King Home Whetstone. #1000 Grit. Model K-45
http://imageshack.us/m/560/295/05212011959.jpg

and King Combination Whetstone. #330/#800 Grit? Model K-80.
http://imageshack.us/m/809/338/05212011960.jpg

Dave Martell
05-22-2011, 10:39 AM
You can check out King's complete line of stones here...

http://www.matsunaga-corp.co.jp/kakutoishi/01.html