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Marko Tsourkan
05-22-2011, 01:00 PM
I will no longer offer Shigefusa and Marukoyoshi other than what I have on hand. I will still offer custom work for those interested.

Marko

Jim
05-22-2011, 01:16 PM
Marko what do you have available? Will you bring them to the ECG?

Marko Tsourkan
05-22-2011, 01:21 PM
Marko what do you have available? Will you bring them to the ECG?

I am not sure, Jim. I have a few kitaeji available, gyuto and deba.

M

kalaeb
05-22-2011, 01:23 PM
Orders already placed will still be good, right?

Matt Stephens

Marko Tsourkan
05-22-2011, 01:29 PM
Those that were, yes, otherwise, I will refund money or offer a substitute.

rahimlee54
05-22-2011, 01:36 PM
That is to bad.

Marko Tsourkan
05-22-2011, 02:44 PM
I expected it and in a way, I am relieved. Shigefusa reactivity and Yoshikane geometry I have always felt uneasy about.

I will apply what I have learned and address the weaknesses in making my own knives. Will report in a due time.

M

Lefty
05-22-2011, 05:19 PM
Marko, I was watching from the sidelines and I'm a little bit disappointed to read this. I know you'll come up with something impressive, but still....

99Limited
05-22-2011, 10:44 PM
Well shoot, there goes my Xmas present to myself. I was all excited about getting a Shig from you.

Marko Tsourkan
05-22-2011, 11:46 PM
Well shoot, there goes my Xmas present to myself. I was all excited about getting a Shig from you.

How about a Shige clone in more user-friendly steel? :)
I am heat treating (practicing) 52100 this very moment. I am in the shop.

M

tk59
05-23-2011, 12:11 AM
Sounds really good, Marko.

mr drinky
05-23-2011, 12:46 AM
... and Yoshikane geometry I have always felt uneasy about.


M

Just wondering, but what was it about the Yoshikane geometry that you didn't like? I liked the shape of that suji a lot, but of course I have never handled one, and I can just go by photos.

k.

MadMel
05-23-2011, 12:48 AM
Waiting for the pics to come on :)

Marko Tsourkan
05-23-2011, 01:31 AM
Waiting for the pics to come on :)

Just finished a heat treating test. Fascinating stuff. Particularly after testing hardness on a Rockwell hardness tester. Reminds me of black and white photography back in the day - you never quite know how your negatives come out until you develop it.

M

Mr.Drinky, I will send you a pm.

MadMel
05-23-2011, 02:47 AM
I'll be interested to see the end products. Especially if you have a stainless/semi-stainless/clad, suji haha.

heirkb
05-23-2011, 03:15 AM
Marko, I'm also interested in hearing your thoughts on the geometry of the Yoshikane knives. I've heard good things about them, so I wanted to know what you found to be the problem. Send me a PM if you get a chance.

And good luck with making your own knives! Can't wait to see what you come up with.

so_sleepy
05-23-2011, 04:35 AM
Put me on you list for a Shigifusa clone in 52100. I've been tempted to get a Shigi for the geometry, but I'm not willing to put up with the reactivity. 52100 should be a winner.

Marko Tsourkan
05-23-2011, 10:01 AM
I'll be interested to see the end products. Especially if you have a stainless/semi-stainless/clad, suji haha.

I will make variety of types in several steels, so there will be plenty to pick from, including damascus.

M

MadMel
05-23-2011, 10:06 AM
Cool. I'll start saving up haha

Justin0505
05-23-2011, 12:01 PM
Hey Marko, this is exciting news and I can be happy about it because I already got a rehandled shige from you! I think you've got the right perfectionist mindset to start making sone great knives - especially if you've figured out the magic shige grind. Sign me up!
Seriously, when you're ready to plan production and start your pre-order list, put my name on it!

Marko Tsourkan
05-23-2011, 01:13 PM
Here is a quick update.

Devin Thomas will supply me with several types of steel - damascus, plain, and san mai construction steel (plain and damascus cladding), and as a part of our ongoing relationship, he will help me with an optimal heat treat for his steel as I will be doing heat treating myself in my workshop. I am very excited about this.

I would like to start with carbon, sami-carbon, and stainless setup and adjust as the time goes by.

Each blade will be thoroughly tested for RC hardness, abrasion, edge retention, sharpness etc and I will report what I find without distortion or hype - if I say the knife is 62RC, that means I got the reading from a hardness tester, not a guess. I have the equipment on hand. I will also test against performance knives, as well as send knives to be evaluated in professional environment.

I think I have a pretty good idea what I like to see in my kitchen knife, so now it is time for start experimenting. I will try not to have it interfere with my regular custom work, but I will have to scale it down, once I start making knives for sale.

Thanks everybody for your support and encouragement.

Marko

tk59
05-23-2011, 02:07 PM
Awesome. I need to get on your list, Marko. :D (Where is that "drool" smiley when you need it?)

99Limited
05-23-2011, 02:19 PM
How about a Shige clone in more user-friendly steel? :)
I am heat treating (practicing) 52100 this very moment. I am in the shop.

M

Alright, it looks like I won't have a blue Xmas after all. :happy1:

Now, where's that signup sheet?

Marko Tsourkan
05-23-2011, 02:28 PM
Alright, it looks like I won't have a blue Xmas after all. :happy1:

Now, where's that signup sheet?

A while back I promised to make 180mm 64RC gyuto in 52100 for a member here. That will be my first project, to come up with a right heat treat, grind, finish, etc. My feeling is I will have to go back to a drawing board a few times before this project is completed and I will end up making a few knives that will go to friends and family (seconds). Once I am comfortable about quality (grind, finish, performance), I will then offer to the general public. It will probably be between 2-3 months.


M

chazmtb
05-23-2011, 02:39 PM
Good luck M.

Custome knives, and and custom accessories at a one stop shop.

tk59
05-23-2011, 02:46 PM
A while back I promised to make 180mm 64RC gyuto in 52100 for a member here... I was under the impression that the sweet spot for 52100 in terms of carbide size and hardness was in the low 60's. I can't say I know where I got this from...

Marko Tsourkan
05-23-2011, 03:11 PM
@ tk59
When properly heat treated, it gets 67RC, and then it is drawn to a preferred hardness (tempering).

@Bao
that would be very convenient, won't it?

M

oivind_dahle
05-23-2011, 04:06 PM
Im really looking forward to your knives Marko :)

oivind_dahle
05-23-2011, 04:08 PM
And it will be awesome when you finnish my Soba Kiri. I just keep wondering what the saya will look like :)

tk59
05-23-2011, 08:15 PM
I don't mean to be rude, OD but *** do you want a freakin' soba kiri for?

JBroida
05-23-2011, 08:30 PM
to impress the ladies of course :P

Marko Tsourkan
05-23-2011, 08:48 PM
to impress the ladies of course :P

I ain't making a sobakiri. For one thing, I barely eat any noodles, let alone soba noodles.

M

Rottman
05-23-2011, 09:01 PM
Marko, you've got a whole sheet of 52100, just cut out the handle, sharpen and OD is getting his sobakiri...

JBroida
05-23-2011, 09:32 PM
Marko, you've got a whole sheet of 52100, just cut out the handle, sharpen and OD is getting his sobakiri...

haha

Marko... you should go for it... be the only american maker of sobakiri :P

Marko Tsourkan
05-23-2011, 09:54 PM
haha

Marko... you should go for it... be the only american maker of sobakiri :P

No sobakiri for me. I don't like heavy and bulky knives, let alone noodle knives.

M

JohnnyChance
05-24-2011, 03:55 AM
Haha! I was wondering why this thread was 4 pages. Last page and a half has been hilarious.

Add me to the list for a damascus sobakiri. In snakewood with matching saya please!

mattrud
05-24-2011, 04:47 AM
I am very intrigued to see how this all turns out. I know marko is very diligent in his work so this will be very interested to see.

oivind_dahle
05-24-2011, 05:32 AM
Marko is a perfectionist!
I have the honor of having a cople of samples on his work, and Im truly impressed by his work. If you want the best, you know Marko will be the one to make it.
I really love that he is working with Devin. Devin is as many know one of my favorites. Im truly impressed by his work. I hope Devin gets his MS asap! :)

The only bad thing about that relationship is: Devin dont know what time is and so do Marko :P

Marko Tsourkan
05-24-2011, 09:13 AM
Thanks everybody.

This project is not going to be easy, but as I have learned long ago, there is nothing you can't do, it is just how much time you put into it. I am pretty determined.

M

mhlee
05-24-2011, 01:13 PM
Best of luck to you Marko. I am also looking forward to seeing your knives.