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PierreRodrigue
06-26-2013, 10:49 PM
So I have been toying with this idea for a while now. A way to do a strong, sanitary handle, that looks good, yet isn't expensive to build.

Synthetics are a little tougher than woods, but look kinda sterile. Its hard to dress it up, and not look over the top. Commercial carbon fiber is usually lay up flat, looks good on 2 sides, and all edge grain on the others.

This is a process I figured out after several attempts, finally figured a way to do it. This is hand layerd carbon fiber, so you can see the fibers all around. I used white vulcanized fiber spacers, to break it up a little, and a G10 ferrule, and end cap.

I would like to know what you think. For or against, if you like the idea or not.

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu37/bladebuilder/carbonwa_zpsc12ac708.jpg (http://s631.photobucket.com/user/bladebuilder/media/carbonwa_zpsc12ac708.jpg.html)

Chuckles
06-26-2013, 11:12 PM
I think it could look cool with shiny powdered stainless. Reminds me of hockey skates and sticks a little bit but that isn't a problem for me.

Is there any texture to it?

PierreRodrigue
06-26-2013, 11:15 PM
Its smooth, and grippy, does that make sense? Even wet, it isn't slick. You still have tactile grip.

turbochef422
06-26-2013, 11:16 PM
I think it's a great idea an would be a big hit. I love my custom handles but I for one don't want "custom burl" on all my work knives. Something comfortable and cheap I could get 3 or 4 of my work knives that aren't customs done at the same time if the price was right. Plus I could spend the extra $$$ on a wa conversion for my new dragon. That handle would be perfect.

Pensacola Tiger
06-26-2013, 11:24 PM
I like it, Pierre. Workmanlike, yet with a touch of class, if that makes any sense.

wellminded1
06-26-2013, 11:26 PM
I like it.

franzb69
06-26-2013, 11:35 PM
i'm with you guys on this. awesome stuff!

ecchef
06-27-2013, 12:16 AM
I think it's great, but would be more greaterer if the carbon fiber had a tighter weave.

Lucretia
06-27-2013, 12:26 AM
Looks great.

Hard to tell from the photos--is there any way for food and grunge to get embedded in the fibers/weave?

PierreRodrigue
06-27-2013, 12:30 AM
Looks great.

Hard to tell from the photos--is there any way for food and grunge to get embedded in the fibers/weave?

Zero. It is completely resin impregnated. Water/food tight. There are 10 layers of carbon/resin around a the core.

stereo.pete
06-27-2013, 12:35 AM
Love it!

420layersofdank
06-27-2013, 12:44 AM
Beautiful pierre! That would look good on anything. Beast!

RobinW
06-27-2013, 02:25 AM
Are you winding it around a conical base shape and then pulling the core?
Loks cool, rather industrial...

bkultra
06-27-2013, 08:41 AM
Looks great, I would like to see it on a knife to get a better idea of the overall look.

77kath
06-27-2013, 08:48 AM
I like it a lot.

mhenry
06-27-2013, 09:21 AM
Very cool. I want one!

Ru5ty1
06-27-2013, 09:25 AM
I like it. Something different.

PierreRodrigue
06-27-2013, 09:31 AM
Are you winding it around a conical base shape and then pulling the core?
Loks cool, rather industrial...

The core is preshaped, with exaggerated facets, and the carbon weave is applied after. The core is then drilled to accept a tang, pieces assembled, and final shape and finish coat applied.

PierreRodrigue
06-27-2013, 09:54 AM
Looks great, I would like to see it on a knife to get a better idea of the overall look.

Here it is on a midtech...

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu37/bladebuilder/IMG-20130627-00582_zps647676dd.jpg (http://s631.photobucket.com/user/bladebuilder/media/IMG-20130627-00582_zps647676dd.jpg.html)

bkultra
06-27-2013, 10:07 AM
Perfect, modern twist on the classic black on black look :doublethumbsup:

franzb69
06-27-2013, 10:15 AM
+1 on modern, it's like putting a modern twist on a classic dish. making it even more classyand yet oh so modern.

am i making sense? lol

NO ChoP!
06-27-2013, 10:43 AM
:doublethumbsup:

Dream Burls
06-27-2013, 10:46 AM
NO!!!! You have to use wood! :justkidding: I actually like it.

Lefty
06-27-2013, 11:36 AM
Haha. I saw Myron was the last post and thought in my head, "he's gonna ask where the wood is...". :D

skiajl6297
06-27-2013, 12:00 PM
I love it and think it would be perfect on a mid tech in a pro environment. Hell, perfect for my wife!

Dream Burls
06-27-2013, 12:09 PM
Haha. I saw Myron was the last post and thought in my head, "he's gonna ask where the wood is...". :D
Heck, the way 3D printers are headed, everyone will be making their own handles in a few years.

Dave Martell
06-27-2013, 02:16 PM
I like it. :thumbsup:

markenki
06-27-2013, 02:44 PM
I'll express a dissenting opinion: I'm not a fan of the carbon fiber look in general, so I don't care for the look of the handle.

PierreRodrigue
06-27-2013, 02:58 PM
:D no worries, I'm looking for opinions. Thank you!

PierreRodrigue
06-27-2013, 03:04 PM
NO!!!! You have to use wood! :justkidding: I actually like it.

It's on the inside Myron! :tease: that's what count's right? That's what my mama told me! Lol!

Mike9
06-27-2013, 04:53 PM
Looks awesome on that mid-tech Pierre.

stevenStefano
06-27-2013, 05:29 PM
I think it looks amazing and as others have said, it's a nice way of doing black-on-black handles, which can looks really boring

xdrewsiferx
06-27-2013, 06:14 PM
I LOVE IT! But I am a CF freak so my view might be bias :D

ChiliPepper
06-27-2013, 08:02 PM
Dunno, I'm extremely biased towards wood so take this for what it's worth but I'd go for a wooden handle any day, even humble ho would be preferable in my agenda. That said I think your handle is very elegant, maybe nickel spacers instead of white fiber, to aesthetically recall the metal of the blade.

ThEoRy
06-27-2013, 10:35 PM
I'm going to say no on this one. I don't like the carbon fiber look. It looks a bit smudged up in the image as well. Just not very clean looking. Maybe if it was tightened up and the lines were near perfect I'd take a second look.

daveb
06-27-2013, 10:52 PM
I like. Especially for more utilitarian knives. Are you thinking an option with your knives or making them available for aftermarket?

PierreRodrigue
06-27-2013, 11:22 PM
This was a test piece. I agree that the pattern is blurred, and am looking into a tighter weave. It, for the time being, will be an option for those who want "sterile" or a hard work piece. I don't usually supply handles, but am open to discuss it.

I too am a wood junky, but customers have asked me for a non showy option for work, that isn't just all G10 or Micarta.

ThEoRy
06-28-2013, 08:43 AM
I think the cool thing is you can do different solid colors or even two tone stuff like black and red or whatever. That could look pretty neat.

K-Fed
06-28-2013, 09:50 AM
I dig it.

Korin_Mari
06-28-2013, 12:12 PM
I really like it. The carbon fiber is really pretty and I imagine it's really comfortable to hold, not to mention super durable. :)

cheflarge
06-28-2013, 03:13 PM
Wow, looks just like my hunting bow and arrow set up. I think it is genious!!! I am a huge Wa handle fan, that just can't afford to spend $150.00 per knife, on replacing all my handles. If the price point was right, I am sure you could sell large quantities. I know I would be interested. :knife:

Lefty
06-29-2013, 05:09 AM
It's stupid. Go back to Canada!





I like it a lot....

Montrachet
06-29-2013, 08:25 AM
I like it. Tighter weaves, metal spacers, butt cap with your paw's signature.

Don Nguyen
06-30-2013, 11:07 PM
With the tighter weave I think it would look BALLER.

mr drinky
06-30-2013, 11:12 PM
I love it. The carbon fiber looks has always appealed to me. Nice work. And a matching carbon saya might look cool too.

k.

RobinW
07-04-2013, 08:47 AM
Just struck me, there are of course carbon weaves with other colours and also carbon/kevlar mixes that you could use for more colour. red/black, blue/black
http://carbonsales.com/home.php

Do you vacuum them?

Potentially you could get a heavy foam and form that to shape and then put the weave on too... With a bit of epoxy when you mount the handle the foam should be ok (i think)

Lefty
07-04-2013, 10:26 AM
Pierre and I talked about this for a little while, and we came up with the idea of soft wood, like poplar, with carbon fiber over top, for when a really lightweight but durable handle is needed. A knife like a small petty or a wa-parer could use this application very effectively.

PierreRodrigue
07-04-2013, 10:37 AM
I am also working on a carbon fibre, leather core saya, and maybe a leather core Kydex saya. The leather would protect the blade, and the synthetics make it all but bullet proof. Either on its own would be nice, but both synthetic materials would scratch any finish over time. The leather is much gentler. I just need to work it out and do a couple prototypes.

Bill13
07-05-2013, 02:27 PM
I like it. Tighter weaves, metal spacers, butt cap with your paw's signature.

My feeling too. Really nice to see a different look.

toddnmd
07-08-2013, 10:54 PM
I love wood, but I like the look of this, too. I agree with the comment that silver/steel colored spacers would look better, IMHO.