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Mike Davis
10-08-2013, 04:15 PM
I decided to bring a large bar of W2 to Randy's hammer in to squish and make stuff from. I was chatting it up with Al, ChefLarge, and was playing with his cleavers...I got a wild hair up my ass...I decided i was going to forge a cleaver!!! Now...to give a heads up, forging a cleaver is a metric butt ton of work! I think seriously, there was 3-4 hours of forging involved.
W2 bar at 2.125" diameter, 11" long.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/20131008_110918_zpsc28ffe39.jpg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/munky2/media/20131008_110918_zpsc28ffe39.jpg.html)
Skipping a lot of squishing
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/1385040_676515649026907_876669536_n_zps2d62db54.jp g (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/munky2/media/1385040_676515649026907_876669536_n_zps2d62db54.jp g.html)
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/1380845_676515659026906_1524963975_n_zps83d4ce38.j pg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/munky2/media/1380845_676515659026906_1524963975_n_zps83d4ce38.j pg.html)
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/1379296_676515759026896_1488656871_n_zps312c1a03.j pg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/munky2/media/1379296_676515759026896_1488656871_n_zps312c1a03.j pg.html)
Now for the hand forging...
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/1044402_676514952360310_1149359614_n_zpsffd37f2d.j pg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/munky2/media/1044402_676514952360310_1149359614_n_zpsffd37f2d.j pg.html)
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/1375176_676514962360309_1072413955_n_zps1781cd7d.j pg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/munky2/media/1375176_676514962360309_1072413955_n_zps1781cd7d.j pg.html)

Mike Davis
10-08-2013, 04:19 PM
Ok, so i have it roughly forged to shape, i cleaned up the profile a bit. Form this point, it was straightened and Randy Jr. was kind enough to surface grind it for me!
This is the other half of the boat paddle we forged lol
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/20131008_110938_zps5af95444.jpg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/munky2/media/20131008_110938_zps5af95444.jpg.html)
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/20131008_110944_zpsbcf1de05.jpg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/munky2/media/20131008_110944_zpsbcf1de05.jpg.html)
And the cleaver before clay coating for a very crazy hamon...
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/20131008_111340_zps806dd25f.jpg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/munky2/media/20131008_111340_zps806dd25f.jpg.html)
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/20131008_111455_zps1581abc2.jpg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/munky2/media/20131008_111455_zps1581abc2.jpg.html)

Still undecided on how i am going to do the handle...Will be looking at that all day.

WillC
10-08-2013, 04:26 PM
Mmmm hamon on a Cleaver, never seen that will be quite special. At some point during grinding it you will think, "no more cleavers":D

Baby Huey
10-08-2013, 04:27 PM
Looking good. Hope it turns out how you intend or better.

Mike Davis
10-08-2013, 06:32 PM
I am still undecided about what to do with the handle. i am thinking a stubby wa, maybe with some mokume spacers or something. i see a lot if cleaver handles are round, turned on a lathe...not sure if thats what i am going to do or not, but...i assure you it will be cool ;)

Lefty
10-08-2013, 08:01 PM
This should be painfully fun to watch. I think you should do an oval handle, with indents on the sides (sloped towards the spine, on the ferrule).

ptolemy
10-08-2013, 10:40 PM
Ohhhhhhhhh, can't wait to see more pics...I think I can speak for all when I say that we were very happy when you got a wild hair up your ass.

Lefty
10-08-2013, 11:22 PM
Much better than when he gets a wild hare up his ass....

brainsausage
10-08-2013, 11:36 PM
I'm posting here to give myself an expedient method of constantly checking this thread, as its fecking awesome. Cleaver hamon. Take that awesome.

bahamaroot
10-08-2013, 11:48 PM
I can't wait to see how this comes out!

Justin0505
10-09-2013, 05:51 AM
oh, this is gonna be sweet: Cleaver, W2, hamon... what's not to like?

and as a side note, if anyone ever had any doubts about the metric system, the fact that it has a until of measure, the "butt ton", specifically dedicated to forging work should make up your mind.

apathetic
10-09-2013, 08:14 AM
Very curious to see how that will turn out!

Vangelis
10-09-2013, 09:23 AM
I am always amazed when I see this kind or projects :) I wish I had 1% of the skills you have

Lefty
10-09-2013, 10:56 AM
oh, this is gonna be sweet: Cleaver, W2, hamon... what's not to like?

and as a side note, if anyone ever had any doubts about the metric system, the fact that it has a until of measure, the "butt ton", specifically dedicated to forging work should make up your mind.

It's true. We learned "metric butt ton" in school. It's equivalent to...well, it's all very advanced and hard to comprehend for non-metric users....

Chuckles
10-09-2013, 11:33 AM
A 'wild hair up the ass' becomes a 'butt ton' and then a 'pain in the ass' and then 'oval shaped with a taper'.

Man the metric system is confusing.

I am excited to see how this works itself out!

Mucho Bocho
10-09-2013, 11:49 AM
Regarding a Butt Ton, thought this comment was insightful


I'm not exactly sure how much a butt ton would be, but, probably much lighter after you drop a couple loads. lol. :)

cheflarge
10-09-2013, 05:26 PM
Oh boy....... Don't know if Mike will ever talk to me again, after showing him my Chinese knives (cleavers)! :biggrin:

Looks awesome, brother, can't wait to see the finished product. You, my friend, are frickin amazing.

DeepCSweede
10-09-2013, 06:49 PM
Don't 100 shiteloads make a Butt-ton

bahamaroot
10-09-2013, 08:30 PM
I first saw a butt ton at Walmart.

cheflarge
10-10-2013, 06:22 PM
Now that's FUNNY!!!

Mike Davis
10-11-2013, 03:19 PM
You guys are killing me!! Hahahaha awesome. Hope to have a little more today to show. Going to clay it and get it heat treated. Cross your fingers everyone...I think i will need it lol.

Mike Davis
10-11-2013, 04:48 PM
Ok...so it may or may not have a cool picture in the hamon....just sayin. It survived the quench, after 2 normalizing cycles, here it is
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/20131011_154203_zps820e8513.jpg
will work on grinding it later, it is getting 6 hours of temper.

cheflarge
10-11-2013, 05:21 PM
DUDE!!! :doublethumbsup:

CoqaVin
10-11-2013, 05:33 PM
nice hamon !:bigeek:

bahamaroot
10-11-2013, 11:40 PM
I bet that looks cool as $hit once it's ground! :ggodjob:

Lucretia
10-12-2013, 12:12 AM
So do the flowers mean it's a girly knife? You know, a knife for a girl? :wink:

Mike Davis
10-15-2013, 12:18 AM
It just may be a girly knife!!! so i did a quick amd dirty sand/etch to see (anticipation was killing me) and here she is!
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/20131014_225825_zps7d1a8bbe.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/20131014_225931_zpseaf3324f.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/20131014_225924_zpse4a41865.jpg
Gah...so hard to get a good hamon picture. Pretty happy that it is going where i want it. Thanks for looking :)

ptolemy
10-15-2013, 01:35 AM
Pretty sure all the men here are willing to put on a pink skirt to use it.

Mike Davis
10-15-2013, 10:24 AM
here is a grknd shot. i still ha e a ton of handsanding to do, but this will give you an idea of the grind.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/20131015_092050_zps62632667.jpg

77kath
10-15-2013, 10:26 AM
Wow, that's pretty. Glad I'm a girlie. I can covet it.

Mike Davis
10-16-2013, 06:13 PM
So...trying to finalize a handle shape and wood selection...any suggestions? i have lots of beautiful stuff...my problem is i have so much that i pull out fifteen pieces, go over them, decide i want to use the all on other stuff when i am better and never end up using those blocks .i have some super nice Koa i have been thinking about...sound good? other ideas?

CanadianMan
10-16-2013, 06:21 PM
Koa and musk ox horn would look nice!

cheflarge
10-16-2013, 08:58 PM
Redwood burl.

brainsausage
10-16-2013, 10:25 PM
I think you should slap one of those old 70's era rubbery bike handlebar grips with the tassels on it:razz:

JohnnyChance
10-17-2013, 01:55 AM
I think you should slap one of those old 70's era rubbery bike handlebar grips with the tassels on it:razz:

?

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19479

http://www.mksdesign.com/images/10-chefs.jpg.

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Mike Davis
10-17-2013, 12:31 PM
?

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19479

http://www.mksdesign.com/images/10-chefs.jpg.

19479
HAHAHAHAHAHA DONE!!! Now if i can only find those awesome plastic tassles!

brainsausage
10-17-2013, 01:35 PM
?

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19479

http://www.mksdesign.com/images/10-chefs.jpg.

19479

Well played Johhny, well played indeed...

cheflarge
10-17-2013, 04:44 PM
Now THAT is frickin hilarious!

Don Nguyen
10-20-2013, 11:50 PM
That grind is NUTS!

Mike Davis
01-09-2014, 01:39 PM
Ok with the winter absolutely sucking here( 32+ inches of snow and temps down into the -60's for the last few days) i finally turned my salamander on and sorta thawed out my shop. I have been staying at work until 1-2 am daily and that makes for very limited time in the shop lol. But....i did manage to get this far.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/Kitchen%20knives/ebf550c8-d32b-45e2-ae15-0d0615aad083_zps50fc4342.jpg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/munky2/media/Kitchen%20knives/ebf550c8-d32b-45e2-ae15-0d0615aad083_zps50fc4342.jpg.html)
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/Kitchen%20knives/4e14872b-f387-4491-8f87-129996c3b043_zpsf05fedaf.jpg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/munky2/media/Kitchen%20knives/4e14872b-f387-4491-8f87-129996c3b043_zpsf05fedaf.jpg.html)
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/munky2/Kitchen%20knives/20140109_113100_zpswfkm2qrj.jpg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/munky2/media/Kitchen%20knives/20140109_113100_zpswfkm2qrj.jpg.html)

Going to try to get this one all finished up today...It is not glued up right now and need a few more polish sessions, but it is getting there!!!

Mike Davis
01-09-2014, 02:17 PM
Forgot. Handle wood is 2 tone amboyna and african blackwood. debating doing a taper on both ends to have more of a football shape and maybe a better fit in the hand. also will get dimensions up in a bit too

Nmko
01-09-2014, 08:03 PM
Nothing but AWESOME!!!! that amboyna suits it perfectly...

ecchef
01-09-2014, 08:56 PM
Taper would be interesting. Maybe shorten the neck a bit? I've only ever used one cleaver (Takeda) and didn't care for it much. This looks amazing though.

Burl Source
01-09-2014, 10:20 PM
If you put oil or something on the blade,
would it keep it from getting those big water spots?
:shocked3:

Mike Davis
01-10-2014, 10:46 AM
If you put oil or something on the blade,
would it keep it from getting those big water spots?
:shocked3:
Hahahaha Mark, i love.you. Decided i am going to shorten the handle a bit and give it a odd taper shape.

Burl Source
01-10-2014, 03:23 PM
Just teasing you Mike. It's too cold there for water spots. Must be a layer of ice.
Good to see that you are back in the shop in spite of the long work hours.
We all enjoy seeing the knives that you make.

Mike Davis
01-11-2014, 10:48 PM
Thanks Mark. I am going to try to get this finished up this weekend. Just some modding to the handle and finish polish the blade. Pretty happy with it so far...It is pretty thin...I cut myself on it and i have yet to sharpen it lol.

quantumcloud509
01-14-2014, 12:15 AM
:thumbsup2:I love this thread. :coolsign::thanx: