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Dave Martell
03-03-2011, 02:21 PM
After some time has been lost to other things I'm finally getting going on starting to re-handle these knives. I'll post an update with a list of names and status soon.

Thank you all for your patience.

Dave

Dave Martell
03-03-2011, 07:55 PM
Status>

Sean (3) - Starting

Richard P

Steven - On Hold for knife from Japan

David (2) - On Hold for knife from Japan

JohnnyChance
03-03-2011, 09:14 PM
Hey what about the sayas from Marko that were sold during group buy #4, do you know how those are coming?

Dave Martell
03-23-2011, 08:52 PM
Hey what about the sayas from Marko that were sold during group buy #4, do you know how those are coming?

Marko is still working on them but it won't be too much longer.

BTW, I've seen the first few (sent as samples for approval) and they're nice....very nice. :happyyes:

Dave Martell
03-23-2011, 08:53 PM
Status>

Sean (3) - Scales Prepped

Richard P

Steven - On Hold for knife from Japan

David (2) - On Hold for knife from Japan

Marko Tsourkan
03-24-2011, 01:41 AM
Hi guys, I am finishing sayas tomorrow and Friday. Was supposed to have finished last week, but things didn't go as fast as I hoped.

Dave Martell
03-24-2011, 01:36 PM
Status>

Sean (3) - Scales Prepped

Richard P - Scales Prepped

Steven - On Hold for knife from Japan

David (2) - On Hold for knife from Japan

Marko Tsourkan
03-28-2011, 07:04 PM
Sayas done, but still need to make pins. :(
Clockwise:
4 x 240mm gyuto
2 x 300 suji (look wider in the picture)
2 x 210mm gyuto (look bigger than 240mm)
1 x 270mm gyuto

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5302/dsc1597i.jpg

JohnnyChance
03-28-2011, 07:15 PM
Awesome!

Dave Martell
03-28-2011, 07:57 PM
Looking good Marko! :thumbsup2:

Pensacola Tiger
03-28-2011, 08:24 PM
Very nice, Marko, very nice!

Avishar
03-28-2011, 08:44 PM
oooh, thats my 270? Well worth the wait! :)

Jim
03-29-2011, 09:48 AM
Nice work Marko!

Marko Tsourkan
03-29-2011, 08:21 PM
Nice work Marko!

Sayas on the way to Dave.

Dave Martell
03-29-2011, 09:51 PM
Sayas on the way to Dave.

:happy1::happy1::happy1::happy1::happy1:

Dave Martell
03-30-2011, 08:46 PM
Status>

Sean (3) - Scales mounted & in vise/clamps for curing

Richard P - Scales Prepped

Steven - On Hold for knife from Japan

David (2) - On Hold for knife from Japan

Dave Martell
03-31-2011, 09:55 PM
Status>

Sean (3) - Scales mounted & in vise/clamps for curing

Richard - Scales mounted & in vise/clamps for curing

Steven - On Hold for knife from Japan

David (2) - On Hold for knife from Japan

monty
03-31-2011, 09:59 PM
Pure art


Sayas done, but still need to make pins. :(
Clockwise:
4 x 240mm gyuto
2 x 300 suji (look wider in the picture)
2 x 210mm gyuto (look bigger than 240mm)
1 x 270mm gyuto

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5302/dsc1597i.jpg

apicius9
03-31-2011, 10:06 PM
You still not done, Dave? :outtahere:I wanted to call you, but my Iphone died. Will try again once the thing works again.

Stefan

Dave Martell
04-01-2011, 01:04 PM
Yup, still working on the group buy knives, it's never going to end! :scared1: :biggrin:

Pensacola Tiger
04-01-2011, 01:58 PM
Yup, still working on the group buy knives, it's never going to end! :scared1: :biggrin:

Does that mean Group Buy #5 is in the works? :poke1:

Dave Martell
04-01-2011, 02:18 PM
Does that mean Group Buy #5 is in the works? :poke1:


No way! :viking:

JohnnyChance
04-03-2011, 06:36 PM
No way! :viking:

PT, He said that about group buys 2, 3, and 4 too. Frankly, I think he is a glutton for punishment.

Dave Martell
04-03-2011, 07:49 PM
PT, He said that about group buys 2, 3, and 4 too. Frankly, I think he is a glutton for punishment.

You got me there. :slaphead:

Jim
04-03-2011, 08:36 PM
Yup, still working on the group buy knives, it's never going to end! :scared1: :biggrin:

Bread knife?:saythat:


:razz:

Pensacola Tiger
04-03-2011, 08:54 PM
Bread knife?:saythat:


:razz:

And cleavers...

Dave Martell
04-03-2011, 09:28 PM
Are you guys crazy? :eek2:

Pensacola Tiger
04-03-2011, 09:38 PM
Are you guys crazy? :eek2:

Just a little Sunday night humor, Dave, trying to dream up ways to fill your free time. You do have free time, right?

Dave Martell
04-03-2011, 09:50 PM
What does it mean when you go in the house and the kids can't remember who you are? :D

unkajonet
04-03-2011, 09:55 PM
It means you have more free time than you thought you did. And if your wife can't remember you...Rachel Ray.

Dave Martell
04-03-2011, 09:57 PM
I really do need to find out who sharpens her knives. :biggrin2:

unkajonet
04-03-2011, 10:01 PM
Now, when you say that, do you mean sharpen her knives, or sharpen her knives?:evilgrin:

SpikeC
04-03-2011, 10:02 PM
It means that their wireless is down!

Dave Martell
04-04-2011, 09:39 PM
Status>

Sean (3) - All handles shaped but need finishing. Then etching & sharpening of knives.

Richard - Scales mounted & in vise/clamps for curing

Steven - On Hold for knife from Japan

David (2) - On Hold for knife from Japan


*Just heard from Japan on the missing knives. Hiromoto will have them available to ship in approximately 10 days time. This is going way outside of the original estimates, sorry about this guys. :(

Dave Martell
04-05-2011, 09:15 PM
Status>

Sean (3) - 2 handles done - 1 is kicking my ass. Then etching & sharpening of knives.

Richard - Scales mounted & in vise/clamps for curing

Steven - On Hold for knife from Japan

David (2) - On Hold for knife from Japan

SpikeC
04-05-2011, 09:29 PM
Status>

Sean (3) - [COLOR="blue"]2 handles done - 1 is kicking my ass.



Pictures????

Dave Martell
04-05-2011, 09:44 PM
Maybe tomorrow if things go good. :)

Jim
04-06-2011, 12:29 PM
What does it mean when you go in the house and the kids can't remember who you are? :D

Wrong house?

Dave Martell
04-06-2011, 02:15 PM
Status>

Sean (3) - DONE

Richard - Scales mounted & in vise/clamps for curing

Steven - On Hold for knife from Japan

David (2) - On Hold for knife from Japan

Dave Martell
04-09-2011, 07:51 PM
Status>

Richard - 98%

Steven - On Hold for knife from Japan

David (2) - On Hold for knife from Japan

Dave Martell
04-10-2011, 01:44 PM
Status>

Richard - DONE

Steven - On Hold for knife from Japan

David (2) - On Hold for knife from Japan

Dave Martell
04-22-2011, 10:13 AM
Status>

Steven - Knife shipping from Japan!

David (2) - Knives shipping from Japan!


Thanks for your patience guys, I really appreciate it.

Dave Martell
04-24-2011, 12:17 AM
All Marko sayas/pins owed are packed and shipping out on Monday morning! :)

JohnnyChance
04-27-2011, 11:19 PM
All Marko sayas/pins owed are packed and shipping out on Monday morning! :)

Mine came in today. Looks great. Just a tad better than my cardboard and gorilla tape one anyway. ;)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_ldEKzBPytxs/TbjcxxKyehI/AAAAAAAAAbI/WI8WK2qkeDA/s800/IMG_0439.JPG

I have some "Boos Mystery Oil" for cutting boards that I use on some of my knife handles when they get a little dry. Can I use it on this as well for some protection against the rigors of my kitchen and knife bag?

Dave Martell
04-28-2011, 12:17 AM
Looking good! I'll let Marko answer the oil question.

Dave Martell
04-28-2011, 03:51 PM
Status>

Steven - Prepping scales

David (2) - Please contact me to select wood

Marko Tsourkan
04-28-2011, 04:29 PM
Looking good! I'll let Marko answer the oil question.

Yes, anything that would give it a bit of water repellent would work. I used regular beexwax/min. oil mixture

Dave Martell
05-01-2011, 09:43 AM
Status>

Steven - Handle Mounted - in vise/clamps

David (2) - Prepping Scales

Dave Martell
05-04-2011, 08:13 PM
Status>

Steven - 95% Done (handle kicking Dave's ass)

David (2) - Scales Prepped

Dave Martell
05-07-2011, 12:37 PM
Status>

Steven - Done (Shipping on Monday)

David (2) - Handles Mounted - in vise/clamps for curing

Dave Martell
05-10-2011, 08:38 PM
Status>

David (2) - DONE!!!!!!

The end of the 4th and finally Hiromoto group buy has come - finally!!! Ten long months and a hell of a lot of handles. Thanks everyone. :)

SpikeC
05-10-2011, 10:01 PM
So the next group buy is ready to start??

apicius9
05-10-2011, 10:18 PM
It's not done before we see any pictures here anyway...

Stefan

Dave Martell
05-11-2011, 12:01 AM
So the next group buy is ready to start??


No!!!!

Dave Martell
05-11-2011, 12:01 AM
It's not done before we see any pictures here anyway...

Stefan


Tomorrow!!

Dave Martell
05-11-2011, 10:18 AM
Here ya go....


http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=492&d=1305123501

stereo.pete
05-20-2011, 10:43 PM
I absolutely love the look of the etched Hiromotos. One day I'll send mine back to you Dave but I've been having too much fun with it lately. Thanks again for giving us the opportunity with your group buys.

Potato42
05-20-2011, 10:57 PM
OOOooooohhhhhh pretty! Almost makes me wish I didn't already have one;)

Dave Martell
05-20-2011, 11:11 PM
Thanks guys, they were fun to do. :)

stevenkelby
05-21-2011, 02:09 AM
My 240 arrived last week, thanks Dave, it's gorgeous and I'm VERY happy with it. The handle fills the hand well, it's easy to get a solid confident grip on it, and it's so well balanced and light weight that it makes short weight of a bag of onions :)

Here's a few shots of the whole Japanese family, they've all had almost daily use:

http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/stevenkelby/Knives/IMG_2919.jpg

http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/stevenkelby/Knives/IMG_2913.jpg

http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/stevenkelby/Knives/IMG_2920.jpg

I'd love a Kauri handle on the Misono, let me know if you're keen Dave :)

Dave Martell
05-21-2011, 02:36 AM
Nice pictures Steve. Hey which handle do you like the most?

Misono....kauri...sure! :)

stevenkelby
05-21-2011, 03:37 AM
Thanks Dave.

The gyuto is of course 240 not 270, is it possible to edit my post?

I normally have the whole blade and handle lightly oiled with your camellia oil and they look much shinier, deeper and lustrous, but I wiped them clean for those pics. The edge of the gyuto is not as dark as it looks in the pics, and is more blue, not brown.

Dave your handles are all more comfortable than any of my other knives, I haven't held more comfortable handles. Not to mention the best looking. For some feedback on the handles, I'll be as critical as I can though :)

I was a pro chef for 10 years, traveled the world, worked in Michelin start kitchens, bought many dozens of knives, but never Japanese sadly, always German or French.

I have big hands, XL glove size, but not massive hands, normal size for 6ft and 200 lb i guess.

I know you're limited by the size and shape of the tang the blades come with too.

Sharpening requires a lower angle than I'm used to but the steel is great to work and holds very well.

The 150mm Petty feels the right size for that size knife, could be a tiny bit thinner and taller to give more of an oval/rectangular section, less round. If the sides were a little flatter it would index more easily in the hand when first gripping it with slippery hands.

The next 3 are all used in a pinch grip mostly anyway so the handle shape is far less important, but for a traditional grip here are my thoughts:

The 190mm Santoku was my previous favorite, it didn't feel too small until I got the gyuto. The Santoku could have a bigger kick on the end for the little finger to rest against. Otherwise great.

The 240 Gyuto is my new favorite. It fills my hand and feels the most right. The sides are deeper so your finger pads rest on the left side of the handle more securely, on a flat, less rounded surface. The palm swell fills my hand. My little finger sits in the notch before the kick, between the 2nd and 3rd pins, and against the kick, very comfortable.

300mm Sujihiki feels great for that style knife. plenty of length. You couldn't make it much deeper/higher as the blade is not deep. Don't want knuckles touching the board :) I can't really criticize the handle shape considering it's a slicer and used with slower more careful strokes anyway. It does feel nice and I think it suits the blade very well.

I'll shoot you an email about the Misono. :)

Hope that helps!

Steve.

apicius9
05-21-2011, 04:02 AM
What amazes me is that, before stabilizing, these kauri blanks all looked the same, no difference in color. Clearly, the stabilizing process changed that profoundly. I think I will have to make one from unstabilized wood, jut to see what it will look like when done.

Stefan

stevenkelby
05-21-2011, 09:13 AM
What amazes me is that, before stabilizing, these kauri blanks all looked the same, no difference in color. Clearly, the stabilizing process changed that profoundly. I think I will have to make one from unstabilized wood, jut to see what it will look like when done.

Stefan

Well they certainly look hugely different now! You wouldn't guess they are the same species, I love the variation.

The petty has the most chatoyancy, I took a quick video to try and show it. Other pieces are a solid color but this and the 300mm change color in the light:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ96H8j3hXE

Dave Martell
05-21-2011, 11:22 AM
Thanks Dave.

The gyuto is of course 240 not 270, is it possible to edit my post?

I normally have the whole blade and handle lightly oiled with your camellia oil and they look much shinier, deeper and lustrous, but I wiped them clean for those pics. The edge of the gyuto is not as dark as it looks in the pics, and is more blue, not brown.

Dave your handles are all more comfortable than any of my other knives, I haven't held more comfortable handles. Not to mention the best looking. For some feedback on the handles, I'll be as critical as I can though :)

I was a pro chef for 10 years, traveled the world, worked in Michelin start kitchens, bought many dozens of knives, but never Japanese sadly, always German or French.

I have big hands, XL glove size, but not massive hands, normal size for 6ft and 200 lb i guess.

I know you're limited by the size and shape of the tang the blades come with too.

Sharpening requires a lower angle than I'm used to but the steel is great to work and holds very well.

The 150mm Petty feels the right size for that size knife, could be a tiny bit thinner and taller to give more of an oval/rectangular section, less round. If the sides were a little flatter it would index more easily in the hand when first gripping it with slippery hands.

The next 3 are all used in a pinch grip mostly anyway so the handle shape is far less important, but for a traditional grip here are my thoughts:

The 190mm Santoku was my previous favorite, it didn't feel too small until I got the gyuto. The Santoku could have a bigger kick on the end for the little finger to rest against. Otherwise great.

The 240 Gyuto is my new favorite. It fills my hand and feels the most right. The sides are deeper so your finger pads rest on the left side of the handle more securely, on a flat, less rounded surface. The palm swell fills my hand. My little finger sits in the notch before the kick, between the 2nd and 3rd pins, and against the kick, very comfortable.

300mm Sujihiki feels great for that style knife. plenty of length. You couldn't make it much deeper/higher as the blade is not deep. Don't want knuckles touching the board :) I can't really criticize the handle shape considering it's a slicer and used with slower more careful strokes anyway. It does feel nice and I think it suits the blade very well.

I'll shoot you an email about the Misono. :)

Hope that helps!

Steve.


Hi Steve,
I just changed the 270 to 240 in your post above.

Thanks for the detailed feedback.....this is GREAT stuff! I've made notes on everything you said and will use it all to help get better as time goes on.

I'll check my emails in a minute.

Thanks again,
Dave

Dave Martell
05-21-2011, 11:24 AM
What amazes me is that, before stabilizing, these kauri blanks all looked the same, no difference in color. Clearly, the stabilizing process changed that profoundly. I think I will have to make one from unstabilized wood, jut to see what it will look like when done.

Stefan


I would love to see how an unfinished block finishes up. You should just sand one side real fine and buff and see what happens. BTW, the magic on the stabilized versions doesn't happen until 600x+ grit.