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Yamabushi
12-12-2013, 10:22 AM
Interested in buying a torch for kitchen use and would like to know what specs and features I should be looking for. For example:

Max Temp
kW(kcal/hr)
trigger ignition
adjustable flame
works at all angles


Mostly I intend to use the torch for browning proteins, but will be looking to get more creative down the road. Additionally, while I am open to specific brand recommendations, I would rather focus on specs because a lot of brands available elsewhere are not available in Japan. Any other tips, hints or pieces of advice are sincerely appreciated!

bkultra
12-12-2013, 10:26 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Iwatani-Torch-Burner-Professional-Cb-tc-pro/dp/B0027HO3XO

It's made in Japan so you should have no problem finding one.

http://www.iwatani.com/iwatani-cooking-product.html

Yamabushi
12-12-2013, 10:31 AM
There are a number of Iwatani torches available here, but I can't seem to find that exact model. HERE (http://item.rakuten.co.jp/i-collect/0001695/) is the closest I can find. It looks like it has all the same features. I think maybe the PRO is what is available in the States, but here the PRO2 and even newer PRO3 are available.

bkultra
12-12-2013, 10:38 AM
Yes that appears to be a newer model (CB-TC-CPRO2 vs CB-TC-PRO). It does not seem to be available in the US. Looks like it is pretty comparable to the one I linked.

Yamabushi
12-12-2013, 10:41 AM
HERE (http://item.rakuten.co.jp/web-suntop/4901140907494/) is the PRO3. It looks very similar to the PRO2, but the knobs are lavender. I'll have to try to dig in to the verbiage to see what has changed.

bkultra
12-12-2013, 10:44 AM
The one I linked is 9,725 BTU for comparison

Yamabushi
12-12-2013, 10:54 AM
Hmmm... after some quick Googling, I found 9725 BTU = 2.849425 kW. The CPRO2 is listed as only 1.9kW. I haven't been able to find the rating for the CPRO3 yet.

Yamabushi
12-12-2013, 11:04 AM
OK, to make things even more interesting/confusing, the CPRO model is listed HERE (http://www.mamapan.jp/shopping/item/61000147.html) as being 1.9kW. That's a big difference from 2.8kW?

bkultra
12-12-2013, 02:45 PM
I would email the manufacturer and ask the differences between the three models. My guess is the are all pretty much the same minus small features (e.g. Hold/lock to keep the torch on with out holding the trigger down).

Von blewitt
12-12-2013, 02:49 PM
Have a look at the searzall, which should be available early next year

toddnmd
12-12-2013, 03:12 PM
I'll be getting the Sansaire sous vide machince once they're in production, so appreciate the suggestions in this thread!

Yamabushi
12-12-2013, 06:39 PM
I would email the manufacturer and ask the differences between the three models. My guess is the are all pretty much the same minus small features (e.g. Hold/lock to keep the torch on with out holding the trigger down).
Agreed... they all appear to be nearly the same specs with some minor feature variances. I'll report back if and when I get the differences figured out.



Have a look at the searzall, which should be available early next year
Will do!



I'll be getting the Sansaire sous vide machince once they're in production, so appreciate the suggestions in this thread!
I'm also considering sous vide, so that is another motivating factor for me.

Yamabushi
12-12-2013, 11:43 PM
After a bit more research, I purchased the Shinfuji Power Torch RZ-840 (http://item.rakuten.co.jp/oasisu/717875/) at my local DIY store for 3500円. It's rated at 3.5kW (11,952BTU). I just used it to brown a braised rolled pork belly and am very happy with the performance and results! Thank you everyone for the guidance!

JCHine
12-13-2013, 02:47 AM
2nd VonBlewit's suggestion to check out the searsall. I've ordered one.

thomasvsgodzilla
12-14-2013, 01:34 AM
2nd VonBlewit's suggestion to check out the searsall. I've ordered one.

Third! But you'll need to get a Benzomatic TS8000 or TS4000 (or thats whats recommended). The TS8000 is double the price of the iwatani though... but the searzall looks like its going to really transform what a torch can do.

Yamabushi
12-14-2013, 03:28 AM
Agreed! The Searzall definitely looks interesting!

Yamabushi
12-14-2013, 05:59 AM
Two slices of braised rolled pork belly prior to the torch.
http://i.imgur.com/emXJQ9Lh.jpg


Torch induced Maillard effect.
http://i.imgur.com/4qdShnah.jpg

Stumblinman
12-14-2013, 09:47 PM
So are you using the torch in lieu of a broiler and without access to a Sally ? I know it can seem a waste to kick the oven into broil but I'm guilty of it.

Yamabushi
12-14-2013, 10:39 PM
Broiler was not an option. I live in central Tokyo and like most homes here, we do not have an oven. That was part of the motivation to get the torch. That being said, a proper oven is high on my wish list!

AFKitchenknivesguy
12-15-2013, 12:53 PM
This is what you seek:

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/jherm77/torch002.jpg

Stumblinman
12-15-2013, 03:54 PM
Ahh I understand now and feel spoiled...

NO ChoP!
12-15-2013, 06:44 PM
I dig the Iwatani because they use the butane cassettes. They are easily obtainable in the restaurant biz.

Yamabushi
12-15-2013, 08:05 PM
Cheers Jason, but the Bernzomatic isn't available here in Japan.



Ahh I understand now and feel spoiled...
Haha, no worries!



I dig the Iwatani because they use the butane cassettes. They are easily obtainable in the restaurant biz.
That was another deciding factor for me. Butane cassettes for my Shinfuji are readily available both locally and online here.

AFKitchenknivesguy
12-15-2013, 10:57 PM
My apologies, attention to detail is normally a strength of mine. Try to get the highest powered one you can get. I can brown proteins in seconds.

Yamabushi
12-15-2013, 11:10 PM
My apologies, attention to detail is normally a strength of mine. Try to get the highest powered one you can get. I can brown proteins in seconds.
Happens to the best of us! :rofl2: I purchased the Shinfuji Power Torch RZ-840 (http://item.rakuten.co.jp/oasisu/717875/) at my local DIY store for 3500円. It's rated at 3.5kW (11,952BTU) and gets the job done quickly and effectively!

Yamabushi
12-16-2013, 12:25 AM
Just for reference:


Benzomatic TS8000 - 14,282BTU/h
Shinfuji RZ-840 - 11,952BTU/h
Iwatani CBC-TC-PRO - 9,725BTU/h

apathetic
12-16-2013, 11:32 AM
Very informative thread! Backed the searzall as it seems like a very promising kit. Hopefully they can get it to be compatible with some torches available here in Europe

boomchakabowwow
12-19-2013, 09:54 AM
no benzo's?

weird..i wonder what a Japanese plumber uses? :) maybe there is no copper plumbing pipe over there?