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Dave Martell
02-22-2014, 05:53 PM
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The Foster Bros...
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Quoting from "Levine's Guide To Knives And Their Values - 4th Edition" by Bernard Levine...


Foster Bros.
In 1883 John Chatillon & Sons Co. of New York City, a half-century old maker of scales, acquired the Foster Brothers Cutlery Co. of Fulton, New York, founded in 1878 by Frank and Allie Foster. Chatillon expanded the Foster Bros. line to over 500 items. During World War II Foster made 250,000 cleavers for the military, plus thousands of bolos and other knives. Chatillon closed Foster Bros. in the 1950's, and sold the name to the Columbia Cutlery Co.




Quoting "Goins' Encyclopedia of Cutlery Markings" by John & Charlotte Goins...


Foster Bros. & Chatillon Co.
c. 1835 - present
John Chatillon Company made scales when it was founded in 1835. Eventually, they began making butcher knives, cleavers, and steels. In 1885, they became sole agents agents for the Foster Brothers line butchers' tools.

In 1896, the firm purchased the Phoenix Knife Company of Phoenix, New York. They then merged it with the Foster Brothers & Chatillon Company. This added hundreds of patterns of of jack and pen knives to their line.

They continued dealing in pocket cutlery as late as 1937. The firm is still in business, dealing in butchers supplies.





KNIVES ARE MARKED:



1870''S TO 1890 FOSTER BROS.

1891 TO 1904 FOSTER BROS. COMPANY

1904 TO 1953 FOSTER BROS. & CHATILLON CO.

1953 TO 1956 FOSTER BROS.

1957 THU ?? COLUMBIA CUTLERY CORP (FOSTER BRO. LOGO)



(2) FRANK AND ALLIE STARTED THE BUSINESS THEN THEIR BROTHERS C. F & J. A. FOSTER CAME IN LATER



(3) THEY EMPLOYED 50 SKILL CRAFTSMEN AND 9 SALESMEN



(4) THEY MADE 500 DIFFERENT SIZE, SHAPES & STYLES



(5) LARGEST WAS THE SPLITTER 24" BLADE & 24" HANDLE TOTAL OF 4' LONG



(6) SMALLEST WAS TINY BLADE USE FOR POULTRY



(7) HANDLES WERE MADE OF COCA BOLA FROM PANAMA & NICARAGUA

: ROSE WOOD & EBONY FROM SOUTH AMERICAN & AFRICA

:BLACK WALNUT, BEECH, MAPLE, CHERRY FROM DOMESTIC SOURCES



(8) THE MADE OVER 200 THOUSAND KNIVES FOR THE ARMY, NAVY, AND MARINES



(9) AROUND 1904 TO 1953 JOHN CHATILLON & SONS CAME IN TO THE COMPANY MAKING IT (FOSTER BRO. & CHATILLON CO.)



(10) COLUMBIA CUTLERY CORP PURCHASE THE FOSTER BROTHERS NAMES AROUND 1957 AND START TO PUT THE LOGO ON -----------THEIR STAINLESS STEEL KNIVES.


The "General" line of knives...
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CARBONS & ALLOYS
FOSTER KNIVES CHART


Carbon steels and alloy steels are designated by a four digit number, where the first digit indicates the main alloying element's), the second digit indicates the secondary alloying element's), and the last two digits indicate the amount of carbon, in hundredths of a percent by weight. For example, a1170 steel is a plain-carbon steel containing 0.70 wt% CARBON



Major classifications of steel


SAE designation
Type


1xxx
Carbon steels


2xxx
Nickel steels


3xxx
Nickel-chromium steels


4xxx
Molybdenum steels


5xxx
Chromium steels


6xxx
Chromium-vanadium steels


7xxx
Tungsten steels


8xxx
Nickel-chromium-vanadium steels


9xxx
Silicon-manganese steels


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(1)EXAMPLE (1107)


1 MAIN CARBON STEEL 100% CARBON

1 SECONDARY CARBON STEEL

07 0.07 ONE HUNDREDTHS BY WEIGHT OF CARBON



(2) EXAMPLE (1207)

1 MAIN CARBON STEEL

2 SECONDARY NICKEL STEEL


07 0.07 ONE HUNDREDTHS BY WEIGHT OF CARBON






Foster Bros. Knife Works 1904 Fulton Ny

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Grinding cleavers...

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HHH Knives
02-22-2014, 06:09 PM
Great stuff Dave. Thanks for posting. I gota get me one of them Double bevel polishers!! ;)

sachem allison
02-22-2014, 07:29 PM
reminds me of Steeley!

Dave Martell
02-22-2014, 09:08 PM
reminds me of Steeley!


I did this thinking of him. Where did he go?

sachem allison
02-22-2014, 09:09 PM
i can't find him. someone knows. I hope he's alright.

brainsausage
02-22-2014, 10:00 PM
I had Steeley remembrances as well. Hope he's doing well.

cranky72
03-02-2014, 08:28 AM
great post martell, amazing variety of alloys used by this co. i really love this old history. cranky72

DeepCSweede
03-03-2014, 02:06 PM
Nice job Dave - Hope Steeley is ok too.

crunchy
03-03-2014, 05:21 PM
thanks dave! strictly use foster bros. for meat fab and whole butchery. :)

ramenlegend
03-03-2014, 06:13 PM
I really want one of them gold star general knives....

tomsch
03-05-2014, 07:04 PM
Great information for sure! I have a number of Foster Bros vintage cleavers that either see use or are slated for some level of refurb.

teke
07-15-2014, 08:57 AM
see http://www.cookingknife.ru/iView.aspx?id=38

menzaremba
07-22-2014, 10:14 PM
Wow. Great photos. Hard to imagine working on those 4ft wheels without eye and ear protection.