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Asteger
07-09-2014, 03:51 PM
For sale are 3 koppa-sized stones, L-R below: Shinden Suita, Hakka, Ohira. All 3 can be used as finishers and are good value, especially compared to full-sized stones which cost a lot more. Size-wise, they're all absolutely fine for knives as koppa are a bit shorter than full-sized stones, but also tend to be wider.

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af99/AstegerV/IMG_7562_zps4dbd1ed0.jpg (http://s997.photobucket.com/user/AstegerV/media/IMG_7562_zps4dbd1ed0.jpg.html)

Individual photos, prices and info to follow.

Asteger
07-09-2014, 04:12 PM
Here's a bit more info, but please PM or post if you have any questions.

First up, the Shinden. Good large Shinden are rare and I've been hoping to nab one for a year, and ended up getting this koppa to try out. It's got good hardness for knives and gives off a good amount of slurry (not too dense/dry/inky) to work with and get a good finish. Size: 195x90x28mm. Will sell and ship to most places for $95.

Front:
http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af99/AstegerV/Shinden%20Suita%20Koppa/IMG_7569_zps0747c2af.jpg (http://s997.photobucket.com/user/AstegerV/media/Shinden%20Suita%20Koppa/IMG_7569_zps0747c2af.jpg.html)
Back:
http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af99/AstegerV/Shinden%20Suita%20Koppa/IMG_7571_zps0d9ac5e9.jpg (http://s997.photobucket.com/user/AstegerV/media/Shinden%20Suita%20Koppa/IMG_7571_zps0d9ac5e9.jpg.html)

Next, the Hakka. I've tried other Hakka and this one measures up very well, with the softness and creamy slurry that you'd expect. Nice stone. Size: 145x80x28mm. Will sell and ship to most places for $125.


Front:
http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af99/AstegerV/Hakka%20Koppa/IMG_7573_zpsd88b7ba5.jpg (http://s997.photobucket.com/user/AstegerV/media/Hakka%20Koppa/IMG_7573_zpsd88b7ba5.jpg.html)
Back:
http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af99/AstegerV/Hakka%20Koppa/IMG_7576_zpsa4badc02.jpg (http://s997.photobucket.com/user/AstegerV/media/Hakka%20Koppa/IMG_7576_zpsa4badc02.jpg.html)

Finally, the Ohira. This actually is a really nice finisher, not as fast as a good suita but for a harder stone it gives enough slurry and I've got nice hag/jig contrast with it. Size: 135x80x23. Will sell and ship to most places for $85.

Front:
http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af99/AstegerV/Ohira%20Koppa/IMG_7578_zpsb66afe58.jpg (http://s997.photobucket.com/user/AstegerV/media/Ohira%20Koppa/IMG_7578_zpsb66afe58.jpg.html)
Back:
http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af99/AstegerV/Ohira%20Koppa/93274f26-3018-4e49-9c15-723bc890ea5a_zpsae3ac036.jpg (http://s997.photobucket.com/user/AstegerV/media/Ohira%20Koppa/93274f26-3018-4e49-9c15-723bc890ea5a_zpsae3ac036.jpg.html)

rami_m
07-09-2014, 04:20 PM
Am very tempted. But not in a stage where I can use naturals I am afraid. Glws, I am sure they will fly off.

Asteger
07-09-2014, 04:55 PM
Am very tempted. But not in a stage where I can use naturals I am afraid. Glws, I am sure they will fly off.

Thanks, and I hope they do. About not being in a stage to use them, I'm not sure what you mean but I barely use my synthetics because to me they're a lot more difficult. The soaking, the dishing, the flattening...

rami_m
07-09-2014, 05:00 PM
Just meant that I am just a beginner so I would need a lot more skill before I can use naturals I think.

Asteger
07-09-2014, 05:04 PM
I know what you mean, but actually it depends more on the stone than you. I guess you need to get to know each stone to know how to use it best, which is similar with synthetics except that one Chosera 1000 is the same as the next Chosera 1000 and so on, but each natural is more unique. Of the stones above, the Hakka is a good starting point as the others are not too hard but harder.

rami_m
07-09-2014, 05:08 PM
What grit range would the Hakka be?

Asteger
07-09-2014, 05:18 PM
Somewhere between 6k-10k. I'm not sure if you know, but natural slurry also breaks down meaning that as you continue to sharpen you go more fine and so naturals are also more flexible. At any rate, all 3 stones above are finishers on the fine side so a bit beyond the medium ranges.

panda
07-09-2014, 05:19 PM
one i tried was 7-8k, feedback is amazing on those.

Asteger
07-09-2014, 05:55 PM
Panda, yeah they do feel nice.

Shinden and Hakka are SPF.

Asteger
07-09-2014, 06:22 PM
The Hakka's sold ;)

rami_m
07-09-2014, 06:57 PM
The Hakka's sold ;)

Funny that ;)

Asteger
07-10-2014, 08:27 AM
Shinden now also sold. Thanks all.

Ohira still available for $85 including shipping.

Asteger
07-12-2014, 05:40 AM
Just to update, the Ohira is still available - small drop in price to $80.

If you want to try out a moderately hard natural finisher for little money, it's a really good example. I held onto this one for a while because it compares very well to a large ohira I still have, which I chose myself after testing about 10 others in Kyoto.

Asteger
07-13-2014, 04:18 PM
Ohira is SPF. Thank you.

Asteger
07-13-2014, 04:59 PM
All sold now. Thanks again