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Tosho
11-28-2015, 05:30 PM
This once was a beautiful Gyuto forged by Watanabe san.
The owner has burnt the edge while trying to install the new handle and lost the tip somewhere along the road.
Heart breaking
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Bill13
11-28-2015, 05:51 PM
That hurts. And I know it's different stokes for different folks... but the handle just seem wrong in a Hello Kitty kind of way.

dmccurtis
11-28-2015, 06:00 PM
Confiscate it. It's for the best.

chiffonodd
11-28-2015, 06:06 PM
Ugh. I may try my hand at wa handle installs one day, but my first attempt will NOT be a watanabe for this exact reason.

aboynamedsuita
11-28-2015, 06:49 PM
:shocked3:

They tried a burn-in for a custom (presumably the pink handle has the internal dowel), why not micro rasps/files and epoxy?

I'll never try a burn-in install.

EDIT
is/was that kintaro-ame steel or just the effects of poor care and the botched install attempt?

TheDispossessed
11-28-2015, 10:17 PM
I've done several burn in installations on nice knives, never had an issue. this image suggests a lack of common sense perhaps. IMO burn in is FAR SUPERIOR to epoxy mounting.

Tosho
11-28-2015, 11:33 PM
I've done several burn in installations on nice knives, never had an issue. this image suggests a lack of common sense perhaps. IMO burn in is FAR SUPERIOR to epoxy mounting.

For Ho wood handles, that is absolutely a great way, but for resin-stabilized burl like this, there would have been no way to burn into it.

ecchef
11-28-2015, 11:35 PM
.....this image suggests a lack of common sense.....
+1
I've done a few burn-ins and never had an issue either. I saw someplace that you can use a potato as a heat sink and have tried it. Works pretty well protecting fingers as a bonus.

ecchef
11-28-2015, 11:36 PM
For Ho wood handles, that is absolutely a great way, but for resin-stabilized burl like this, there would have been no way to burn into it.

Unless it had an untreated core dowel.

jklip13
11-28-2015, 11:47 PM
Unless it had an untreated core dowel.

Yes of course! sorry I forgot about that possibility

NotThinEnough
11-29-2015, 12:08 AM
another victim of youtube DIY tutorials.

Tosho
11-29-2015, 12:14 AM
Yes of course! sorry I forgot about that possibility

Sorry! I accidentally sent this from an old employees account- Sorry Jon, you were signed in automatically again.

XooMG
11-29-2015, 08:51 AM
How much of the edge got cooked? Temper-affecting heat won't carry far along the edge. If it needed to be done, it would not be impossible to shorten the knife, though the resulting profile could be a personal thing.

Tosho
11-29-2015, 09:00 AM
How much of the edge got cooked? Temper-affecting heat won't carry far along the edge. If it needed to be done, it would not be impossible to shorten the knife, though the resulting profile could be a personal thing.

I have no idea (metallurgicaly speaking) what is going on inside this knife. Chances are the edge will be softer here due to the reversal of the heat treatment. the bevel of the knife is bright blue for the first 3 cm. It may be possible to sharpen this out over time, but I really don't know how deeply the heat affected the blade.

TheDispossessed
11-29-2015, 09:02 AM
On a side note, this forum keeps making me want a watanabe of late....

pkjames
11-29-2015, 09:06 AM
doh! I often hesitate on selling custom handles to customers for this very reason!

XooMG
11-29-2015, 09:17 AM
(edit) best for me not to contribute here.

Asteger
11-29-2015, 11:31 AM
doh! I often hesitate on selling custom handles to customers for this very reason!

Based on the above, you might also hesitate to sell them any knives in the 1st place! :dazed:

NotThinEnough
12-07-2015, 08:53 PM
I can fix it for you guys, if you need it. Not advertising, but just wantin to help. You know where to find me.

what do you mean 'fix' it? fix the overheated steel? or just aesthetics on the outside? im very curious to find out if this could be fixed beyond the aesthetics.

daveb
12-07-2015, 09:08 PM
(edit) best for me not to contribute here.

Same could be said for Tom. Only more so.

Lefty
12-07-2015, 11:31 PM
Sorry, Dave. My mistake. Mind fixing that for me...?

jonathan1995
03-29-2016, 03:48 AM
another victim of youtube DIY tutorials. :D

trochoisq
04-11-2016, 03:29 AM
Keep it that's what everyone wants!

jonathan1995
04-12-2016, 11:35 PM
I dont think it's a good idea: D

Lefty
05-20-2016, 01:09 PM
Was this ever rectified?

daveb
08-14-2016, 12:15 AM
I dont think it's a good idea: D

I think it's illuminating. Why don't you think it's a good idea?

aboynamedsuita
08-14-2016, 01:44 AM
I dont think it's a good idea: D

I dont think it's a good idea: D

:detective:

hambone.johnson
08-15-2016, 08:28 PM
Was this ever rectified?

I'm curious if the owner ever got his knife back.

I'm having trouble getting ahold of tosho for a while now and he has one of mine. His shop is pretty low on stock too. I'm wondering if he is getting out of the game

merlijny2k
12-18-2016, 03:20 PM
This is a public website and a custom handle is easily recognizable. I think the customer deserves some more privacy and respect. Sure his diy project didnt work out but i give him points for trying. I wrecked a cellphone once trying to give it a new screen but i still try stuff. And also if the heel got a little softer its not that big a deal. Most knives eventually frown from not enough wear at the heel anyway. Cosmetic fix and the knife will be fine.

daveb
12-18-2016, 07:46 PM
Huh?

LifeByA1000Cuts
12-18-2016, 11:26 PM
The heel looks like it got >300C... If I don't misunderstand the data given for common carbon steels, that would send it into the low to mid 50s?

daveb
12-18-2016, 11:42 PM
OK. But it got to whatever degree prior to 11/28/2015. And now there's a privacy concern?

Cool handle btw.