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karloevaristo
08-29-2011, 11:05 AM
If someone gives you a knife for free. On one hand, Carter Stainless Fukugozai & Konosuke HD Gyuto on the other, both are of the same length. Which one would you pick?

Karlo

tk59
08-29-2011, 11:16 AM
That's not a nice question to ask... But I think I'd go with the Carter. They both cut great but I'd give the edge to the Carter. The HD might win the edge retention but that really doesn't matter to me. The profile on the Carter is flatter, which I prefer. Plus, it's forged white #1 which is cool and I don't mind rounding the edges or otherwise modifying it or getting it rehandled later. If I wanted pretty and didn't want to have to mess with it to get it "perfect," I would be tempted to go with the HD.

jgraeff
08-29-2011, 11:21 AM
Id go for the Carter but thats only because i have the Konosuke already :)

Darkhoek
08-29-2011, 11:40 AM
I have not tried the Konosuke, but the Carter impressed me a lot. It takes a really evil edge and holds it pretty good. I also like the grind of the Carter a lot. :my2cents:

DarKHOeK

NO ChoP!
08-29-2011, 11:49 AM
Well, I think a Carter in the 240mm range would far out-price an HD, so on value alone, I'd pick the Carter....plus, I too already own an HD. (And will sometime in the near future pick up a Carter; waiting for the next "sale")

aaronsgibson
08-29-2011, 11:50 AM
Would have to go with the Carter. Already own a Kono white #2 so something a little different. How much would a Carter cost for a 240mm any way?

MadMel
08-29-2011, 11:59 AM
Carter. BTW, I tot the steel was blue super with stainless cladding??

Pensacola Tiger
08-29-2011, 12:01 PM
Carter. BTW, I tot the steel was blue super with stainless cladding??

He makes both. The Blue Super have "S" stamped on the blade, the White have "W".

tk59
08-29-2011, 12:20 PM
Yup. I specified white because that is what Murray recommends and that is what I have.

UglyJoe
08-29-2011, 12:20 PM
And if it's Blue Super instead of white then you should really snap it up, because that's a higher priced knife than his white steel line. On pure market economics the Carter is definitely the way to go, but I would go with it on pure performance factors as well. Especially considering it's usually pretty rare to come across a Carter on the market that long. Most of the time the knives he has on his website fall below 200 mm - he's actually had a few longer than that for sale recently, but he went about 2 years without posting anything that wasn't damascus and extremely expensive that was longer than 6.5 sun or so.

karloevaristo
08-29-2011, 12:36 PM
He has a couple of long funayuki's at his website right now, 7's 8's and 9's... I'm waiting for a 6.5 sun to become available... Right now I'm taking a good look at the 210mm HD... but if there's going to be a 6.5 sun SGFZ soon, I'm going to probably go with Carter... but... I'm also curious about the HD.... But I already have a 5 sun funayuki and it's just CRAZY good... but the HD looks very impressive and heard very good reviews about it... but the funayuki... I'm confused... don't know what to do!!!!! HELP ME!!!!! haha! :happy2:

(i love the "what knife to buy" dilemma, best problem in the world :scratchhead:)

tk59
08-29-2011, 12:41 PM
If I only had a Carter, I'd probably get the HD. It is a very good performer and it's a little different.

kalaeb
08-29-2011, 01:34 PM
Would have to go with the Carter. Already own a Kono white #2 so something a little different. How much would a Carter cost for a 240mm any way?

About 450.00-500.00

Rottman
08-29-2011, 01:42 PM
About 450.00-500.00

But that would be for high grade and not the SFGZ, no?

karloevaristo
08-29-2011, 01:49 PM
But that would be for high grade and not the SFGZ, no?

I believe so... The SFGZ 186mm white is around $190... So a 240mm white should probably be between $250-$300...

Eamon Burke
08-29-2011, 01:58 PM
Carter, because it's made in America.

I agree that it's not a nice question to ask, though. Tough call. Can't really go wrong, though.

kalaeb
08-29-2011, 02:00 PM
But that would be for high grade and not the SFGZ, no?

Correct, my bad, that would be the high grade.

aaronsgibson
08-29-2011, 02:16 PM
So what do you think the price would be for a SFGZ? I've been thinking about maybe picking up one.

Rottman
08-29-2011, 02:22 PM
I believe so... The SFGZ 186mm white is around $190... So a 240mm white should probably be between $250-$300...

+1, prob. around $ 300 for a 240 white, to find out email him directly.

SpikeC
08-29-2011, 02:27 PM
Carter. For political reasons as well as functional ones.

Pensacola Tiger
08-29-2011, 02:37 PM
So what do you think the price would be for a SFGZ? I've been thinking about maybe picking up one.

There's a Price Guide on his website (in Microsoft Word format:

http://www.cartercutlery.com/price_guide_2011.doc

At this time, an SFGZ in white steel is $46 per sun for blades over 6.5 sun, so a 7.9 sun blade (239.2mm) is $46 x 7.9 = $ 363.40 plus shipping.

aaronsgibson
08-29-2011, 03:09 PM
Hmm interesting. Thanks. Can't help but wonder what other knives out there are in the same level as a Carter. Might have to do some more digging. Thanks again.

Lefty
08-29-2011, 09:29 PM
I have both in my kitchen, and while I love (and I mean love) the konosuke, I'd get another Carter in a heartbeat.

karloevaristo
08-30-2011, 02:08 AM
I have both in my kitchen, and while I love (and I mean love) the konosuke, I'd get another Carter in a heartbeat.

That's the answer I was looking for... Thanks!

goodchef1
08-30-2011, 10:18 AM
Strictly for value and resale, I would definitely go with the Carter. For free and at that length?, I go for resale value, so I can continue to get new knives without overstocking