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RRLOVER
09-16-2011, 08:41 PM
http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/mario164/004-50.jpg

http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/mario164/011-17.jpg

http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/mario164/009-28.jpg

http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/mario164/009-29.jpg

So I always use T88 epoxy but for some dumba$$ reason I used something else.I had a gap at the back joint and the epoxy that I dyed black dried gray:slaphead::slaphead: I hate scrapping handles :sad0: I stopped sanding after 220, did not want to waste sand paper on top of tossing a handle.

kalaeb
09-16-2011, 08:45 PM
Dang...that would have been good looking handle too.

Although I guess I can't really see the flaw from the photo, sell it as a 2nd to put on a Carter.

El Pescador
09-16-2011, 08:48 PM
Failure? That handle looks great!

RRLOVER
09-16-2011, 08:56 PM
Failure? That handle looks great!

http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/mario164/010-21.jpg

Here's a close up......NOT WINNING:lol2:

jwhite
09-16-2011, 08:56 PM
I hate it when products fail, but I don't think that handle needs to be scrapped. Cut through the seam with a good razor saw, or whatever mechanical means in your shop that has the best finest kerf blade. Flatten and reattach with a the T88 go for an invisible seam so you don't have to worry about matching the other epoxy. You shouldn't loose more than a mm. in length. If the handle was to be to a customers specs than you'll still have to make a new one that meets their precise requirements, but otherwise that handle is attractive and perfectly functional after the bad join is addressed. Put it on another knife and sell it for what it is - an attractive handle.

rmbonham
09-16-2011, 09:00 PM
Are you insane man! if you don't want it i will be your garbage can....

Marko Tsourkan
09-16-2011, 09:30 PM
http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/mario164/010-21.jpg

Here's a close up......NOT WINNING:lol2:

Though I share your sentiment, I would say, put it to a vote and see how many folks here think it's a failure. Think how many people like different color liners in their handle. The grey stuff can easily pass for one. On that scale, it is practically unnoticeable too.

Did you try to do Rader-type end cap?

M

mhenry
09-16-2011, 09:31 PM
Damn! thats a awesome failure,

sachem allison
09-16-2011, 09:34 PM
I like imperfections. As a Native American we intentionally leave flaws or make a very subtle mistake on our work, because man isn't perfect only the Creator is. Send it my way and I will honor it.
:indian::bow28:

Rottman
09-16-2011, 09:37 PM
wabi-sabi

RRLOVER
09-16-2011, 09:38 PM
Did you try to do Rader-type end cap?

M

I have so many small piece's of wood I figured what the hell I'll give it a try.

Marko Tsourkan
09-16-2011, 10:32 PM
I have so many small piece's of wood I figured what the hell I'll give it a try.

True that. :) I use small leftovers to make pins, but maybe I will give an end cup a try one of these days.

M

ThEoRy
09-16-2011, 11:38 PM
wabi-sabi

This.

sachem allison
09-16-2011, 11:52 PM
wabi-sabi

exactly

jmforge
09-17-2011, 01:27 AM
Just say it is a fiber spacer.:biggrin:

Jim
09-17-2011, 01:47 AM
Man that is pretty!

Here is the plan, sell it to anyone over 45, they would never see that "glaring defect" .:wink:

Twistington
09-17-2011, 06:29 AM
You can't scrap that, on the close up picture the handle measures ~80mm across and that little epoxy seam is ~1mm high.
Finish the handle and put it on a blade, it's too pretty to go in the bin. :)

dough
09-17-2011, 12:40 PM
thats too bad. i can understand your wanting to scrap it but it sure looks way better then a stock handle.

maybe just do a giveaway or something. someone that may not normally upgrade their stock ho handle to a very nice handle.

Dave Martell
09-17-2011, 01:24 PM
Although I understand you Mario I have to agree with the other guys that this is way too nice to scrap. It either needs a re-work like jmwhite suggested or just ignore it because like dough said, "it sure looks way better then a stock handle"

So don't chuck this one in the bin! :)

apicius9
09-17-2011, 01:54 PM
I hate when that happens, but I would still consider it tolerable from what I see in your picture. I still think I have yet to make a perfect handle, every one of them has a little something that could have been better. After spending a few hours with them, you see much more flaws than anybody else ever would.
My 2 cts,

Stefan

sachem allison
09-17-2011, 03:14 PM
http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/mario164/004-50.jpg

http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/mario164/011-17.jpg

http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/mario164/009-28.jpg

http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/mario164/009-29.jpg

So I always use T88 epoxy but for some dumba$$ reason I used something else.I had a gap at the back joint and the epoxy that I dyed black dried gray:slaphead::slaphead: I hate scrapping handles :sad0: I stopped sanding after 220, did not want to waste sand paper on top of tossing a handle.
I'll buy it right now. pm me

RRLOVER
09-17-2011, 09:48 PM
Thanx for the offer Sachem but I don't make handles for sale.I just make them for my own knives.

tk59
09-17-2011, 11:48 PM
I've always thought you were a little crazy. This just confirms it. ;)

Eamon Burke
09-18-2011, 01:06 AM
Thanx for the offer Sachem but I don't make handles for sale.I just make them for my own knives.

You don't have to sell it. I'll make sure you never see it again, for FREEEEEEEEEE. PM if interested.

echerub
09-18-2011, 01:11 AM
Now *that* sounds like an offer that will make both parties very happy ;)

sachem allison
09-18-2011, 03:32 AM
Thanx for the offer Sachem but I don't make handles for sale.I just make them for my own knives.
I'm Sad now. work like that should be shared.:sad0: I was very serious about the offer, but I understand.:thumbsup:

apicius9
09-20-2011, 09:36 PM
There Mario, you did it, now I am thinking about trashing handles for the same reason, too... :bashhead:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6180/6165587242_5f940f37b7.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgapicius/6165587242/)
P1020503 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgapicius/6165587242/) by mgapicius (http://www.flickr.com/people/mgapicius/), on Flickr

Not sure how that happened, the mokume endpiece is connected with a hidden pin, and maybe the pin was just a faction of a mm too long, now there is a thin glue line. There are also some tiny burn specs, this light horn just burns when you only get it anywhere near a belt sander. May have to do that one again...

Stefan

jwhite
09-21-2011, 09:44 AM
There Mario, you did it, now I am thinking about trashing handles for the same reason, too... :bashhead:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6180/6165587242_5f940f37b7.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgapicius/6165587242/)
P1020503 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgapicius/6165587242/) by mgapicius (http://www.flickr.com/people/mgapicius/), on Flickr

Not sure how that happened, the mokume endpiece is connected with a hidden pin, and maybe the pin was just a faction of a mm too long, now there is a thin glue line. There are also some tiny burn specs, this light horn just burns when you only get it anywhere near a belt sander. May have to do that one again...

Stefan

:lol2:

Hermes7792
10-03-2011, 07:10 PM
Personally i like it. give more of a contrast between the pieces