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Marko Tsourkan
11-08-2011, 11:44 AM
Laurie x 2
Steve
Leonard
Rene
Walter
Julian
Karing
Oivind x 4 (waiting for steel)
Collin (#13)

I will start on a next batch after this is one is completed. Will post the progress updates as well as pictures.

M

oivind_dahle
11-08-2011, 11:46 AM
Muahahahahaahaha. Get in line suckers! :)

Chef Niloc
11-08-2011, 11:54 AM
Oivind, you got a whole set or are you hoarding them for the markup that will soon follow?

oivind_dahle
11-08-2011, 12:44 PM
Ah..

Xmas gifts Collin.
One for my mother and stepfather and one for my mother and father-in-law.

2 x 150 and 2 x 180

Gonna keep 1 x 150 and 1 x 180 myself :)
And I have to get Marko to step up his game, so I ordered something really special. Pics will follow :)

Dave Martell
11-08-2011, 03:46 PM
Marko, watch out for that #13 :)

Marko Tsourkan
11-08-2011, 03:49 PM
Marko, watch out for that #13 :)

I know and he is about an hour away from me. Got to be vigilant.

M

chuck239
11-09-2011, 12:47 AM
NOOOO!!!! I didn't make the first cut.... any idea when the second list is coming up just so I can see where we are all at?

-Chuck

Chef Niloc
11-09-2011, 05:23 PM
Originally Posted by Dave Martell
Marko, watch out for that #13
I know and he is about an hour away from me. Got to be vigilant.

M


I got home yesterday morning to a great surprise! Del did a great job with #13:whistling:

Marko Tsourkan
11-09-2011, 06:17 PM
I am placing an order for a premium quality ironwood. It will be available as a choice for a handle material. I think I can arrange matching ironwood for sayas as well, but it won't be inexpensive, due to the cost of the wood, and I will ask for an advance.

Chuck -
the second batch will be after this one. I estimate in about two weeks.

M

chazmtb
11-09-2011, 09:56 PM
Am I on the second list?

Marko Tsourkan
11-09-2011, 10:10 PM
You are on practice knives list. I haven't made the schedule for that one yet. :(

heirkb
11-10-2011, 12:55 AM
You are on practice knives list. I haven't made the schedule for that one yet. :(

Oh so there still is a practice knives list? Am I on that? Whenever you get to look at what you have available and have time to start on those, let me know. I'm in no rush.

Marko Tsourkan
11-10-2011, 02:31 PM
Oh so there still is a practice knives list? Am I on that? Whenever you get to look at what you have available and have time to start on those, let me know. I'm in no rush.

Yes, there is one, but I will keep that to PM. I think I responded to your PM, didn't I? :)

heirkb
11-10-2011, 04:51 PM
Lol, yeah. I got confused when I read that the suji was your last practice knife, that's why I asked. I got it now :)

Chef Niloc
11-11-2011, 11:49 AM
Ok I'll ask, what's this "practice knives list?"

JohnnyChance
11-11-2011, 01:01 PM
Ok I'll ask, what's this "practice knives list?"

Marko has made a bunch of knives in different shapes and sizes while practicing grinding and figuring out what blade shapes and geometry he liked. He is/will be regrinding them to match his final design, but they won't have his maker's mark, and will be sold at some discount.

Marko Tsourkan
11-11-2011, 07:16 PM
Marko has made a bunch of knives in different shapes and sizes while practicing grinding and figuring out what blade shapes and geometry he liked. He is/will be regrinding them to match his final design, but they won't have his maker's mark, and will be sold at some discount.

Thanks John -

Marko Tsourkan
11-14-2011, 06:19 PM
Last call for a matching ironwood set.

This wood is premium quality Arizona desert ironwood and is pretty expensive, but I think it will be a pretty stunning set.

I want the material for a handle and a saya cut from the same block, so I have to place an order at the same time.

This is the grade I am looking to get
http://arizonaironwood.com/images/Theme/003.JPG

I have two people down at this time.

The choice of steels is solid damascus, san-mai damascus with AEB-L core, W2 with hamon, 52100 damascus, and others.
M

oivind_dahle
11-14-2011, 06:23 PM
Im in!

Get in line suckers!!! Muhahahahahahahaha

Marko Tsourkan
11-14-2011, 07:04 PM
Great, thank Oivind - :beatinghead:

JohnnyChance
11-14-2011, 07:13 PM
I'd be down for a set of that.

99Limited
11-14-2011, 07:42 PM
Does this include people on the practice knife list? If it does and I made it to that list, I'm in.

Marko Tsourkan
11-28-2011, 09:49 AM
I have several knives in different state of completion. Still working on improving finish. You might not believe it, but it seems to be the hardest of all steps involved in knife-making.

Here are a few knives profiled and ready to be heat treated.

2683

2681

2682

2684

chazmtb
11-28-2011, 11:47 AM
Oh Chit. Devin Dammy and Bubble Wrap.

Marko Tsourkan
11-28-2011, 12:15 PM
Oh Chit. Devin Dammy and Bubble Wrap.

San-Mai with AEB-L core on Bubble-Wrap patern gyutos, to be precise. :)
The suji is carbon Ladder damascus I forged while at Devin's.
The the small gyuto are Spirograph stainless.

Justin0505
11-28-2011, 12:36 PM
Wowa-wee-wow! Very nice!
I'm not sure how I managed to miss the signup for the first batch, but I really need to get on the next one.

JohnnyChance
11-28-2011, 10:42 PM
A bit on the thick side, but at least edge deformation should be minimal.

Eamon Burke
11-28-2011, 10:56 PM
A bit on the thick side, but at least edge deformation should be minimal.

hahaha nice one.



You know, I think the finishing steps are the bulk of work in any job. I remember putting models together when I was young, and they were giving instructions on how to make a tree for a diorama from scratch. It was like "Twist wire" and showed twisted wire. "Wrap in paper and glue" and showed that. "attach leaves" and it started to look vaguely arboreal. Then it said "finishing touches" and BAM it had 10 coats of paint, artificial bark, layered leaves, grass about the roots, etc. The final step is always the most over-the-top, especially with such high-class work as this.

RRLOVER
11-29-2011, 10:33 PM
Looking Good.......Glad to see you are using San Mai on the dammy.

kalaeb
11-29-2011, 11:07 PM
Very cool and well done. I never would have thought the finish would be so difficult for a perfectionist. (sarcastic lol) Let me know when the next batch opens up, you know I am a sucker for a suji.

Marko Tsourkan
11-30-2011, 09:02 AM
Thank you, folks -

Mario, the damascus on a suji is a half-brother of yours and Rick's gyuto steel.

These blanks haven't been heat treated yet, so they don't show right colors (Spirograph will be dark after HT)

Machine finish I am aiming at is similar to Bob Kramer finish of his 52100 custom knives.

These are profiles you will see on my knives. They are derived from Masamoto gyuto, but are not 1:1 copy. There are two notable differences with Masamoto that will put them apart in terms of durability and performance.

M

oivind_dahle
11-30-2011, 09:08 AM
I love your own profile Marko. I can tell that you are rewarded for studing a lot of knives before making your own.
Im really looking forward to how they turn out, and how the grind wil be.

Marko Tsourkan
12-02-2011, 11:18 AM
The last feedback I got from a pro from a commercial kitchen, was a request for a little more heft in midsection, but same thinness at the edge, so I ground one with that in mind. I think I am going to offer both versions, lighter and heavier, so one would have to specify. Lighter will be a slightly better cutter, and heavier will be be more robust and suitable for doing large amount of prep cutting in a pro kitchen.

Here are the pictures of spine shots and geometry shots. I only rough-ground, so it is yet to be finished. Speaking of finishing, I am struggling to come up with a machine finish that is satisfactory to me, so I think I will end up hand-finishing at least the first few of the knives.
2790

2791

2792

2793


My learning curve for logo etching has been steep and frustrating. I am leaning to use a silver mark over a blackened.
2794


I have several knives ground and two knives are to be finished (with handles) this weekend. Pics to follow.

M

Marko Tsourkan
12-28-2011, 02:16 PM
Got to go back to original thread. Too many threads at the moment to keep track of. :(

Laurie x 2 (Done!!!)
Steve (On Hold)
Leonard (getting ready to HT)
Rene ((getting ready to HT)
Walter (getting ready to HT)
Julian (getting ready to HT)
Karing (getting ready to HT)
Oivind x 4 (Heat treated)
Collin (#13) - have to wait on this one so it doesn't mess up the other ones. :)

Pics of the first order. Thank you all for being patient!

3341

3338

3339

3335

3340

oivind_dahle
12-28-2011, 02:24 PM
Nice!!

Im soooo looking forward to these knives :)

Marko Tsourkan
12-28-2011, 02:32 PM
Nice!!

Im soooo looking forward to these knives :)

Oivind, for stalking, I am pushing you to the bottom of the list. :)

kalaeb
12-28-2011, 02:57 PM
Oivind, for stalking, I am pushing you to the bottom of the list. :)

Sweet! I am no longer at the bottom.:D

They look great, while the d shaped handles are well done, I still think your traditional octogon take the cake.

Cipcich
12-28-2011, 05:04 PM
Nice. These photos on your web site might save some poor fool a lot of agonized decision making . . .

sachem allison
12-28-2011, 06:34 PM
Nice. These photos on your web site might save some poor fool a lot of agonized decision making . . .

posole!:sofa:

Cipcich
12-28-2011, 07:11 PM
I'm not sure what "posole" means, but I'm sure Marko knows "poor fool" was a self-deprecating reference to my own inability to decide. I've had a chance to actually try both handles, and for days the best I could come up with was "I like them both".

JohnnyChance
12-29-2011, 02:04 AM
I've had a chance to actually try both handles, and for days the best I could come up with was "I like them both".

Sounds like you need 2 knives then.

Chef Niloc
12-29-2011, 04:01 AM
Got to go back to original thread. Too many threads at the moment to keep track of. :(

Laurie x 2 (Done!!!)
Steve (On Hold)
Leonard (getting ready to HT)
Rene ((getting ready to HT)
Walter (getting ready to HT)
Julian (getting ready to HT)
Karing (getting ready to HT)
Oivind x 4 (Heat treated)
Collin (#13) - have to wait on this one so it doesn't mess up the other ones. :)

Pics of the first order. Thank you all for being patient!

3341

3338

3339

3335

3340

O come on! Don't let Dave scare you, bad carpenter blames the number...or something like that? Hoss and del had no trouble with #13 :O

oivind_dahle
12-29-2011, 09:33 AM
Don't push Marko. He got trouble with 3,4,5 and 6 to :)
I hope for pics this year!
woot!

Marko Tsourkan
01-11-2012, 10:32 AM
Laurie x 2 (Done!!!)
Steve (Profiled)
Leonard (Heat-treated)
Rene ((Heat-treated)
Walter (Heat-treated)
Julian (Heat-treated)
Karing (getting ready to HT)
Oivind x 4 (Heat-treated)
Collin (Profiled)

3617

I have some more cow/ox horn in the shop and 7 more rolls of premium buffalo horn (as in the picture) on the way. This should give me enough material for about 50+ handles, so I can breath freely for a while.

Also sending out a good amount of premium curly koa, curly maple, and some walnut burl for stabilizing, so I should have it back in time for the second batch (hopefully).

bcrano
01-11-2012, 03:26 PM
How about mine? :)

Cipcich
01-13-2012, 01:15 AM
Hey Marko. No surprise, I love the picture. :cool2:

mr drinky
01-27-2012, 11:37 AM
Any updates?

k.

Marko Tsourkan
01-27-2012, 11:40 AM
Will have some by the end of the weekend. Working on a number of knives at the moment.

M

Marko Tsourkan
02-05-2012, 12:07 PM
Steve - Rough Ground
Leonard - Rough Ground
Rene - Rough Ground
Walter - Rough Ground
Julian (in the picture)
Karing Heat Treated
Oivind x 4 On Hold
Collin (Profiled, Heat Treating on Monday)

Big Enchilada
277mm on the edge

4210

Cipcich
02-05-2012, 11:30 PM
So the Taquito is 150 mm . . .

Marko Tsourkan
02-06-2012, 12:05 AM
165mm to be precise.

mattrud
02-06-2012, 12:01 PM
get working Marko! I know I am somewhere on that list.:whistling:

Marko Tsourkan
02-06-2012, 12:57 PM
The second half of the list won't get published until I complete these. I have them in various stages of completion, hopefully will be chipping away a few this week.

M

apicius9
02-06-2012, 02:11 PM
Hi Marko, looks like your mailbox is full...

Stefan

Marko Tsourkan
03-12-2012, 11:01 AM
Oivind's knife is ready except for D-hanlde (making today). He asked me how my finish compared to Shigefusa finish, so I am including pics.

240mm (on the edge) gyuto in 52100.

5226

5227

5228

5229

PS: Shigefusa in the picture is super-thin in the mid section, thinnest I ever seen. Keep that in mind when you look at the last picture.

oivind_dahle
03-12-2012, 11:41 AM
woot!

Posting from Altitude: 26 109 ft or for the metrics: 7 958 m
Looking good. Bad conection here :)

Johnny.B.Good
03-12-2012, 12:11 PM
The finish on that blade of yours looks flawless Marko.

Congrats Oivind!

Marko Tsourkan
03-13-2012, 05:14 PM
Out to Norway...

5257

5258

5259


These folks are next. Their knives are in various stages of completion and some will go out this week.

Leonard
Rene
Walter
Julian
Karing

don
03-13-2012, 05:21 PM
Very nice, Marko.

Luke_G
03-13-2012, 05:39 PM
May I ask which wood the handle is? Redwood? :scratchhead:
Looking very good :)

Deckhand
03-13-2012, 05:51 PM
Really nice work.

Johnny.B.Good
03-13-2012, 06:03 PM
Stunning.

You keeping this one Oivind, or is it a gift?

Marko Tsourkan
03-13-2012, 06:14 PM
May I ask which wood the handle is? Redwood? :scratchhead:
Looking very good :)

It is redwood.

Thanks everybody!

M

PS: Oivind had originally 4 orders. I bumped him up the line, however he ended up with one, so hopefully there won't any issues with you guys who were before him, plus his friend is in DC this week so it made sense to rush this one. Norvegian customs are brutal.

oivind_dahle
03-13-2012, 06:48 PM
This looks good!

Thanks Marko.
Im soooo looking forward to finally playing with 52100.
This will be a knife for me, but I will send it to a few places to check out. I have some contacts in the professional kitchen, who are ranked pretty high internationally :) I might post their opinions about it :)

bcrano
03-13-2012, 06:49 PM
That redwood is beautiful! Great job as ever Marko!


Out to Norway...

5257

5258

5259


These folks are next. Their knives are in various stages of completion and some will go out this week.

Leonard
Rene
Walter
Julian
Karing

Marko Tsourkan
04-06-2012, 12:42 AM
Two of 5 are almost done (one needs handle polish, another to bring blade to a higher finish).

Thee others are ground, getting ready to make handles.

This is the biggest knife I ever made - 275mm on the edge.

5886

5887

sachem allison
04-06-2012, 12:44 AM
beautiful as always Marko

don
04-06-2012, 01:51 AM
Yes, definitely a stunner.

Marko Tsourkan
04-06-2012, 01:54 AM
I will have better pictures soon.

Marko Tsourkan
04-08-2012, 03:07 PM
Karring
Julian
250mm suji and 275mm gyuto both measured on an edge, with experimental grind.

The rest (five) are to be done within 3-4 days, most are ground and finished, but I haven't started on handles yet, except for one (Leonard).

5934

5935

5936

5937

Johnny.B.Good
04-08-2012, 04:27 PM
Stunning Marko.

Is that snakewood?

Marko Tsourkan
04-08-2012, 04:31 PM
Thank you.

Yes, it is.

M

don
04-08-2012, 06:08 PM
Really like the silver cap on your D-handle. Can't wait for your second batch of custom knives :)

JohnnyChance
04-08-2012, 10:04 PM
Stunning Marko.

Is that snakewood?


Thank you.

Yes, it is.

M

From that piece you have had sitting around for over a year? Hmmm...I have a piece of snakewood just like that...

Marko Tsourkan
04-08-2012, 10:41 PM
From that piece you have had sitting around for over a year? Hmmm...I have a piece of snakewood just like that...

Yes, that is the piece, but I actually had it for over two years.

Just to add, this block had the best figure but was a little short, so a spacer and a cap was necessary to give it enough length.

My work is influenced by Bob Kramer's work, no doubts about it, but in this case it was a pure necessity, then an attempt to copy. I come to think, I could have had an ed cap as well. :)

The spacer and the cap is mokume, but I haven't etched it.

M

PS: can somebody point to a good source of snakewood? I got mine from Amazon Exotic Hardwoods last time. I was however not dry, hence, two years sitting on it.

apicius9
04-08-2012, 11:12 PM
PS: can somebody point to a good source of snakewood? I got mine from Amazon Exotic Hardwoods last time. I was however not dry, hence, two years sitting on it.

The best I had was from Robert at AZ Ironwood. He says he also sends it in for stabilizing - whatever that means. Not sure the resin can penetrate the dense wood, but I never had issues with the 2 pieces I used from him. I also had a few other pieces sitting round for 2+ years without issues, but I would not want to send them to someone in UT or in a desert somewhere...

Stefan

P.S., that snakewood handle is stunning. These are a PITA to make IMHO and yours look fabulous, even better with the metal cap.

chazmtb
04-09-2012, 09:33 AM
Yes, that is the piece, but I actually had it for over two years.

PS: can somebody point to a good source of snakewood? I got mine from Amazon Exotic Hardwoods last time. I was however not dry, hence, two years sitting on it.

Wow! it took two years to dry. I should go and ask them if they had something that was already dry. I thought Snakewood was so dense, that it doesn't need to be dried.

Marko Tsourkan
04-09-2012, 09:53 AM
Wow! it took two years to dry. I should go and ask them if they had something that was already dry. I thought Snakewood was so dense, that it doesn't need to be dried.

It was probably dry after a year, but I didn't get to work it and extra drying is only better.

Snakewood is very dense, but it is also reputed to be very brittle and delicate - it can crack sometimes years after being worked, so it has to be worked carefully, without overheating it, and every time it is drilled or ends exposed, the surface has to be treated with CA glue. At least that is what I have read about snakewood on pen turners forums, but they work with a smaller stock and drilling a larger hole for pen hardware, can easily heat up wood.

M

DevinT
04-09-2012, 09:58 AM
Nice work Marko.

Hoss

mr drinky
04-09-2012, 06:03 PM
It has been a long time waiting to see my name in this thread, but AMAZING things happen to those who wait. Looks great Marko, and I love that handle.

k.

Johnny.B.Good
04-09-2012, 06:10 PM
It has been a long time waiting to see my name in this thread, but AMAZING things happen to those who wait. Looks great Marko, and I love that handle.

Which one is yours K?

mattrud
04-09-2012, 11:14 PM
I love the Ebony handles you do Marko. I am going to want that on my knife.

mr drinky
04-10-2012, 02:42 AM
Which one is yours K?

The 250 suji with snakewood.

k.

Eamon Burke
04-10-2012, 08:30 AM
Nice catch, K!

Justin0505
04-10-2012, 11:37 AM
It has been a long time waiting to see my name in this thread, but AMAZING things happen to those who wait. Looks great Marko, and I love that handle.

k.

That maybe the best looking handle I've seen Marko make to date. Obviously influenced by Kramer's meji design, but still distinctly Markoish and classy, almost formal looking.

I hope you are clear on who you should call when this knife arrives.

Johnny.B.Good
04-10-2012, 12:42 PM
I absolutely love that snakewood handle (and the blade it's attached to).

Amazing.

Marko Tsourkan
04-29-2012, 06:20 AM
Greetings -

I have several knives completed (Leonard, Walter, Julian, Karring, Brian) but my etching machine broke (among other few equipment failures I had last month), so it's being repaired at the moment and as soon as I get it back, these knives will go out.

Made some progress on my backlog of custom orders - Bao's two sets are complete, Rick's almost done. After these, I will only have two more sets left. Whew...

Heat treating two batches of knives today and tomorrow. Will include some of 180mm and 210mm. These will feature D handles and will be offered as stock knives.

Western handled gyuto with bolster in works.

M

kalaeb
04-29-2012, 02:52 PM
Western handled gyuto with bolster in works.

M

On the edge of my seat. Can't wait to see this.

chuck239
04-29-2012, 04:46 PM
Made some progress on my backlog of custom orders - Bao's two sets are complete, Rick's almost done. After these, I will only have two more sets left. Whew...


Is this just the first list? Or is this all of your orders?

chuck239
05-03-2012, 05:08 AM
??

Marko Tsourkan
05-03-2012, 07:12 AM
I will start on the second batch of orders next week. Waiting for my etching machine to come back from repair so I can send out the knives I have completed.

Working on some handles and sayas in the mean time, as well as on some practice knives (refurbishing)

M

Marko Tsourkan
05-08-2012, 03:02 PM
My etching machine finally came back, so there will be several knives going out this week. This one is going out today (5/8)

250mm suji in 52100. Snakewood with blackwood ferrule and DT mokume spacer and tip handle. Asymmetrically ground. 177g. Balance point 3/4" forward.

6931

6932

6933

6934

6935

kalaeb
05-08-2012, 03:06 PM
Very nice. Is that a mokum or brass bolster?

Any bottle handles to show? :D

Marko Tsourkan
05-08-2012, 03:15 PM
It's DT mokume.

Not yet, need to wrap up current work, before start experimenting.

M

Johnny.B.Good
05-08-2012, 03:16 PM
Too cool.

kalaeb
05-08-2012, 03:18 PM
It's DT mokume.

Not yet, need to wrap up current work, before start experimenting.

M

You are welcome to experiment with mine. :hungry:

mattrud
05-09-2012, 12:40 AM
Love it Marko. Really can not wait to see how your D-shaped handles fair.

Marko Tsourkan
05-09-2012, 12:48 AM
Matt,
I think I am going to do a passaround on D handled gyuto and maybe a suji (as a set).
I am thinking 240mm for gyuto and 250-270mm suji. Any suggestions on the size?

Both D handles and blades (asymmetrically ground) will be for a right-handed user.
I can do for a left-handed as well, but I think we have more righties.

M

mattrud
05-09-2012, 12:57 AM
I am a big fan of the 240 suji (as many know). I think knives in the 240-250 range are about perfect for my pro-style use style. I am excited to one day get a finished knife from you. I really enjoyed using your prototypes and seeing the evolution. I really think you are putting out some great work.

Marko Tsourkan
05-09-2012, 01:10 AM
Current knives are quite different from that prototype. :)

These pass-arounds will be basically what my customs are. I would like to get a feedback on a new grind and D handles.

So, 240 gyuto (240mm on the edge or 240mm tip to handle?) and 250mm suji?



M

mattrud
05-09-2012, 01:11 AM
for me 240-250 suji, But I think the majority of people would like 270-285

Andrew H
05-09-2012, 02:34 PM
Personally I'd rather see a 270+ suji.

oivind_dahle
05-09-2012, 02:57 PM
Suji = 300 or more. You need a sword to be king! .)

Marko Tsourkan
05-09-2012, 03:16 PM
I am going to make these for a quick (all-pros) pass-around to evaluate a geometry and overall performance. No size limit otherwise.

M

Marko Tsourkan
05-20-2012, 04:35 PM
Been down with cold for over a week, finally recovered and back to working.
I have several knives in works, 3 need sayas and then will be ready to ship.

This one is done except a blade needs to be epoxied in.

52100, 180mm gyuto with D handle in Desert Ironwood, horn ferrule and N/S spacer.

I hope a person who is getting it will like it.

M


7273

7274

7275

7276

7277

99Limited
05-20-2012, 05:39 PM
Hey if they don't, tell them to send it to me. I Like It.....

Crothcipt
05-20-2012, 06:58 PM
me likey too. Great as usual.

Lucretia
05-21-2012, 01:10 AM
Bwah hah hah hah hah! :knife:

Marko Tsourkan
07-16-2012, 08:11 PM
It has been a while since I posted new work. Recently, I made changes to the grind, came up (with Devin's help) with new HT, tweaked D handle to reflect feedback I received. All of this took much longer than anticipated.

So here is one of my old custom orders.

52100. Cocobolo handle with buffalo horn (nice brown streaks throwout) and poplar saya. Gyuto is 255mm on the edge. Hardness is 63-63.5RC. Heat treated for high wear resistance, so this boy was very hard to finish by hand. 205g. 3mm over the heel, 2.1mm half the way, 1.65mm 2" from the tip. Same knife I used in a video to show food release.

8599

8600

8601

8602

8603

8604

Crothcipt
07-16-2012, 08:27 PM
I likey.

Dream Burls
07-16-2012, 10:17 PM
Awesome stuff Marko.

markenki
07-16-2012, 10:44 PM
Looks great. How was the new D handle tweaked? New and old comparison photo would be great. :)

Marko Tsourkan
07-17-2012, 08:48 AM
Looks great. How was the new D handle tweaked? New and old comparison photo would be great. :)

I moved the ridge slightly up and made it less pronounced. Also gave the handle more taper from back to front in both height and width.

M

Marko Tsourkan
07-26-2012, 11:36 AM
Going to concentrate my effort to clear off the old orders (I took a deposit for these) in the next 2-3 weeks. These will be next. All heat treated, will start grinding some. All will have new heat treatment and new geometry.

Steve
Rene
Walter
Collin (#13)

Dream Burls
07-27-2012, 07:39 AM
I'm changing my name to Steve.

Marko Tsourkan
07-30-2012, 02:15 PM
52100. All but four on the left heat treated (rusty ones aren't heat treated yet). Not pretty, but if you think that more than half of the steel will be ground off, it should not matter. Pictures are taken on an angle, in real life blades are taller. Even a Western suji has a nice knuckle clearance. All blades profiled by hand.

8870

8871

M

Marko Tsourkan
07-30-2012, 09:52 PM
Some more HT done. Ready to start grinding.

8885

kalaeb
07-30-2012, 09:58 PM
Your killing me. Those westerns are mmm mmm good.

Marko Tsourkan
07-30-2012, 10:04 PM
You have other priorities, so forget about western handles for a while.

M

Cipcich
07-31-2012, 03:05 AM
Interesting photos. If you start with a short knife, you get positive reinforcement for your efforts sooner . . .

Marko Tsourkan
07-31-2012, 08:28 AM
Interesting photos. If you start with a short knife, you get positive reinforcement for your efforts sooner . . .

That's a good point, Steve -

Namaxy
07-31-2012, 09:54 AM
Some more HT done. Ready to start grinding.

8885

Ogle....:coolsign:

Marko Tsourkan
08-27-2012, 09:43 AM
Tried to make some changes to my process to be more efficient, but didn't like the result, so reverting to the old ways of doing things, and working on replacements for those knives that went into a practice bin.

This one I managed to do last week. 255mm on the edge, cocobolo handle with a nickel silver spacer and a horn ferrule. 3mm, 2.25, 1.75 (50mm from the tip). Rigid spine, thin midsection and a super thin edge. 210g.

It has been a long time since the order for this one was placed.

M
9391

9392

9393

9394

9395

9396

9397

obtuse
08-27-2012, 10:50 AM
stunning, as usual. Good work Marko :thumbsup:

markenki
08-27-2012, 01:17 PM
Looks great! That block of wood looks familiar.

Crothcipt
08-27-2012, 06:07 PM
Wow very sweet.

Marko Tsourkan
09-01-2012, 01:48 PM
These are ground, hand finished to 220 grit and now they go for some cutting test, before final finish and 'factory' edge and custom handles/sayas.

These are a typical profile 240mm gyuto, my take on a 240mm kiritsuke-shape gyuto and a 180mm petty. All in 52100.

M

9507

9508

markenki
09-01-2012, 02:59 PM
Good-looking knives!

Marko Tsourkan
11-03-2012, 09:34 AM
Some new work since vacation. A slow start, but have several knives in works.

180mm gyuto in 52100 heat treated to 63RC, cocobolo/horn/nickel silver spacer D-handle
225mm gyuto in 52100 heat treated to 62RC, thuya/horn/nickel silver spacer D-handle

The maker's mark placed on opposite sides intentionally.

11071

11072

11073

11074

markenki
11-03-2012, 10:01 AM
Looks great!

Marko Tsourkan
11-08-2012, 05:01 PM
This is probably the thinnest above the edge (yet standard thickness at the spine) knife I have ground to date. The objective was to push cutting performance to a new level, without putting the knife in the category of lasers.

Spine thickness is 3.25mm at the handle, 3mm over the heel, 2.15mm half way, and 1.75mm 50mm from the tip.

255mm gyuto, 52100, 62.5RC. Handle - cocobolo with buffalo horn and N/S spacer. Saya - select grade poplar.

11324

11325

11326

11323

WildBoar
11-08-2012, 05:05 PM
Damn... Not sure what else I can say.

Johnny.B.Good
11-08-2012, 05:12 PM
Awesome.

ecchef
11-08-2012, 09:53 PM
Ooooooo....OOOOOOOOOOOOO! :drool:

Mike9
11-08-2012, 10:04 PM
404 on your Custom page Marko.

apicius9
11-09-2012, 04:05 AM
Great stuff Marko, it's easy to see the effort that goes into those knives and I am sure they are worth every penny just for the work hours. Wish I had more funds... Oh, and especially that thuya burl one looks fabulous, still my favorite wood (after koa, of course ;) ).

Stefan

Marko Tsourkan
11-09-2012, 11:07 AM
Thanks, folks -

I am curious myself how this knife is to be received.

Thuya had some nice smell to it, even when it is stabilized. Good stuff.

Marko Tsourkan
01-19-2013, 11:24 PM
Finishing up a few knives. Will post pics on Monday.

Stay tuned. :D

ThEoRy
01-20-2013, 05:47 AM
Awesome! Looking forward to it.

daddy yo yo
01-20-2013, 09:55 AM
can't wait to see pics of your current work / work in progress!

markenki
01-21-2013, 07:37 PM
It's Monday. :whistling:

ThEoRy
01-21-2013, 09:02 PM
It's under 4 hours from being not Monday....:poke1:

Marko Tsourkan
01-21-2013, 09:13 PM
Damn if not for all these aches, I would be done.

Have to ask you for a day extension. I have 4 blades done (polished) and started on handles for all. However, I won't be done with those till tomorrow afternoon, and won't have pics till Wednesday morning, as I don't take pics with a flash.

Sorry folks, I really tried, but pain got me to stop. If not one then another - I just recovered from a severe cold to develop a hip pain. Said reality - after 40 I am falling apart.

So I have something to show for, the blades are the following

210 gyuto
225 gyuto
225 gyuto
275 suji

All in 52100 with D handles (with metal tip)

Sorry for building all that anticipation.

Pensacola Tiger
01-21-2013, 09:28 PM
Marko,

Sorry to hear of your aches and pains. New York winters can be tough.

Any updates on the ready-mades from mid-December?

Rick

mc2442
01-21-2013, 10:54 PM
Sorry to hear about your discomfort. Getting old does suck, and I am not even 40 yet, though getting very close.

I don't suppose we could get a list of the upcoming knives? I know I am somewhere in there :-)

ThEoRy
01-22-2013, 12:37 AM
Meh, you don't look a day over 35.

JohnnyChance
01-22-2013, 02:28 AM
Meh, you don't look a day over 35.

True. Here is a picture of Marko from the last ECG:

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12728

12728

Marko Tsourkan
01-22-2013, 10:33 AM
I have a past hip and knee injury and once in a while one of them gives me troubles. Now it's a hip. It's an inflammation, so hopefully with good old Ibuprofen (600mg), it will go away. It doesn't hamper me working, but I can't stand on my feet for too long, so I have to alternate between standing and sitting.

The December knives are all done but handles. I think I will work on them as a part of a next batch of knives, which are all done but handles. These will be made with my updated D handle so progress is a little slower, but I am getting better at those, as well as getting faster at polishing. Hand-polishing the blade can take forever, if the blade is 63RC hard.

I was joking about falling apart, but after 40 it does take longer to heal and recover (if you play sports or exercise).

M

chinacats
01-22-2013, 10:44 AM
I was joking about falling apart, but after 40 it does take longer to heal and recover (if you play sports or exercise).
M

I think it is even worse if you don't play sports or exercise...get well Marko!
:)

Marko Tsourkan
01-22-2013, 11:20 AM
I think it is even worse if you don't play sports or exercise...get well Marko!
:)

I do both and that is when I get in trouble. :) Learning to slow down the hard way.

Dream Burls
01-22-2013, 09:00 PM
Marko,

So sorry to hear about your aches and pains. As someone in his 60's, you ain't seen nothing yet. And you're right about the healing process - the older the longer. Bottom line, get well soon and stay healthy.

daddy yo yo
01-23-2013, 06:57 AM
me too i can't wait to see pics of your recent work - whenever that is! i hope to be able to pass my custom order soon!

marko, please don't forget about my PM - yet i am patient and i understand that you're busy working and recovering! no worries!!! there are things more important than the job, and health definitely is one of those things!

marc4pt0
01-23-2013, 09:58 AM
.

I was joking about falling apart, but after 40 it does take longer to heal and recover (if you play sports or exercise).

M

that's exactly how I'm starting to feel. my restaurant just did it's holiday party this past Sunday, which included a much anticipated servers vs cooks football game. The idea for the game was started as a joke, but the floor manager thought it a great idea. A lot of trash-talk was delivered by the front-of-house staff the weeks before. The funny thing was- my cooks and I were genuinely humble for most of it. We knew we were outnumbered and their team consisted of a Lot of younger highschool kids.So we practiced. And then we won the game. 42-21. Almost 2 hours of play time. They had sub-outs taking breaks on the side lines. We had none. Just a couple TO's for a quick beer and cig break.
But victory came with a price. We are all banged up. I,being oldest one on the field at 39, am still in the hurt box with bruised ribs. My wife, pregnant wife, is furious. She is now insisting that I sit out on the much whined about rematch come Super Bowl Sunday. I tried hiding the pain, but coming to bed smelling of Ben gay and not being able to get out of bed without using the roll-out maneuver paired with the grimace of struggle... I fear I might not be able to convince her otherwise.
Oh age, too soon. Too soon.

WildBoar
01-23-2013, 12:22 PM
39?!? Get back out on the field, soldier! You have at elast 10 more years of weekend football left in you :biggrin:

cookinstuff
01-23-2013, 12:53 PM
I feel like I'm getting old in the kitchen myself, then I look at my father who is in his 60's, coaches 2 hockey teams, plays for 2 hockey teams, and still plays rugby. The old guy is making me look bad, looking forward to some fantastic pictures, Marko's are always like a double, great pictures of great knives, how can you lose.

pitonboy
01-23-2013, 04:50 PM
that's exactly how I'm starting to feel. my restaurant just did it's holiday party this past Sunday, which included a much anticipated servers vs cooks football game. The idea for the game was started as a joke, but the floor manager thought it a great idea. A lot of trash-talk was delivered by the front-of-house staff the weeks before. The funny thing was- my cooks and I were genuinely humble for most of it. We knew we were outnumbered and their team consisted of a Lot of younger highschool kids.So we practiced. And then we won the game. 42-21. Almost 2 hours of play time. They had sub-outs taking breaks on the side lines. We had none. Just a couple TO's for a quick beer and cig break.
But victory came with a price. We are all banged up. I,being oldest one on the field at 39, am still in the hurt box with bruised ribs. My wife, pregnant wife, is furious. She is now insisting that I sit out on the much whined about rematch come Super Bowl Sunday. I tried hiding the pain, but coming to bed smelling of Ben gay and not being able to get out of bed without using the roll-out maneuver paired with the grimace of struggle... I fear I might not be able to convince her otherwise.
Oh age, too soon. Too soon.

Nothing more enlightening than waking up the day after playing football past 45--both groins pulled, left shoulder messed up, sore as hell all over--but it's still a great thing at the time

Marko Tsourkan
01-25-2013, 05:54 PM
Back on topic of knives. Took this pic in the shop today. There will be more soon.

12791

12792

WildBoar
01-25-2013, 05:58 PM
Tease! That handle looks fantastic!

markenki
01-25-2013, 06:37 PM
Sweet!

The hekler
01-25-2013, 07:35 PM
Sweet redwood especially the saya!

Line cooked
01-26-2013, 12:26 AM
Very nice!

sachem allison
01-26-2013, 12:47 AM
beautiful Marko! Gotta figure out how to get money, rob a bank maybe or start pimpin out my servers.

Dream Burls
01-26-2013, 09:45 AM
Beautiful work Marko. Your material selection is beyond compare.

Marko Tsourkan
01-26-2013, 10:34 AM
Well, I not keeping up withe the schedule, but there are several knives that are patiently waiting for handles.

I have been back and forth on whether to include a spacer, and I think it grown on me enough to include it. This way it will have resemblance to my old handles. The spacer however has to be a little thicker than on my old handles.

daddy yo yo
01-26-2013, 12:03 PM
marko, admit that you do that on purpose!!! :sad0: seeing those pics made me place my order... :happymug: but i know that this isn't any good for me, i can hear my wife already... :spankarse:

mc2442
01-26-2013, 10:01 PM
Gorgeous! What kind of wood on the handle?

daddy yo yo
01-27-2013, 12:59 PM
Gorgeous! What kind of wood on the handle?do you mean the pics marko posted? i guess that's redwood... i ordered ironwood, my no. 2 would have been ebony with marbled horn.

Marko Tsourkan
02-05-2013, 10:24 AM
Here is a completed set bar maker's mark etched. 275mm on the edge, 52100 (62-63RC). Handle - redwood burl with ebony ferrule and DT mokume spacer and a tip. Saya - redwood.

13094

13095

Dream Burls
02-05-2013, 01:22 PM
Maestro you've done it again. Fantastic.

Marko Tsourkan
02-21-2013, 10:49 AM
Two new ones will be up this afternoon. Stay tuned.

Marko Tsourkan
02-21-2013, 05:37 PM
Attempted two handles, one is success, and the other is what I call a learning experience (the error was preventable). Will start on a replacement for the second tonight.


210mm gyuto in 52100, cocobolo handle with blackwood ferrule, nickels silver spacer and tip. Balance at the ferrule.

The knife doesn't have the edge yet, so you can see the thickness I grind and finish knives in the first picture (a little blurry).

13490

13491

13492

13493

13494

13495

13496

don
02-21-2013, 06:16 PM
So nice, Marko.

Marko Tsourkan
02-21-2013, 09:48 PM
Thank you.

Montrachet
02-21-2013, 09:56 PM
I REALLY LIKE IT!

ThEoRy
02-21-2013, 09:57 PM
.....(adds mokume to current want list)....


Nice, clean looking work as usual Marko. Brilliant!

mpukas
02-22-2013, 02:06 PM
Gorgeous Marko!

EdipisReks
02-22-2013, 02:11 PM
that looks great, Marko!

Marko Tsourkan
02-22-2013, 02:20 PM
Thanks guys. There will be more to come.

Marko Tsourkan
02-23-2013, 11:09 AM
225mm gyuto in 52100. Sturdier knife, no flex on the spine - a direction I am taking with most of my gyutos. Handle claro walnut burl, blackwood ferrule, nickel silver tip. 196g. Balance right outside of the metal tip.

13539

13540

don
02-23-2013, 11:37 AM
So impressive, Marko. I really like the balance point to your knives, makes it really feel like an extension of the arm.

Marko Tsourkan
02-23-2013, 11:57 AM
So impressive, Marko. I really like the balance point to your knives, makes it really feel like an extension of the arm.

Thanks, Don -
that was the intention all along. :)

daddy yo yo
02-23-2013, 03:00 PM
wow, the gyuto with the walnut handle is just gorgeous!

Chef Niloc
02-25-2013, 04:50 AM
07-17-2012
Going to concentrate my effort to clear off the old orders (I took a deposit for these) in the next 2-3 weeks. These will be next. All heat treated, will start grinding some. All will have new heat treatment and new geometry.

Steve
Rene
Walter
Collin (#13)


Don't tell me you were betting on me not waking up?

Notaskinnychef
02-25-2013, 05:35 AM
love the handle design, looks so comfy

Marko Tsourkan
02-25-2013, 09:27 AM
Don't tell me you were betting on me not waking up?

I am not a betting man. You are in, though the numbers are a bit messed up by now.

Chef Niloc
02-25-2013, 12:22 PM
I am not a betting man. You are in, though the numbers are a bit messed up by now.

Oh well I guess you snooze you lose ( little Coma humor), so much for my #13 collection I had running.

Marko Tsourkan
02-25-2013, 05:57 PM
I think the intention was for it to be #13, so in my mind it is 13.

Chef Niloc
03-05-2013, 07:14 AM
I think the intention was for it to be #13, so in my mind it is 13.

Are You quoting Buddha? Or is that the Tao of Marko :cool2:

Marko Tsourkan
03-05-2013, 11:15 AM
No just voice of somebody who constantly behind in his work and is tired of that.

On the upside, what comes later seems to be a notch better than the earlier stuff. Nothing stands still.

I will start on your knife soon. There are a number of steels to chose from besides 52100. I might ask you to fill a custom order form for details. It's in my signature.

M

Marko Tsourkan
04-09-2013, 07:21 PM
Finished this one today. 52100 gyuto in 225mm lengh. Ground it thinner, so food release is excellent.

14456

14457

14458

14459

14460

14461

14462

don
04-09-2013, 08:29 PM
Amazing, Marko. The choil shot looks spectacular.

markenki
04-09-2013, 09:18 PM
Looks awesome, Marko.

Dream Burls
04-09-2013, 09:59 PM
Fantastic Marko. Love the choice of wood, the finish you gave it and the insert in the butt. Really nice.

Marko Tsourkan
04-09-2013, 10:02 PM
Fantastic Marko. Love the choice of wood, the finish you gave it and the insert in the butt. Really nice.

Thanks guys. Work is painfully slow, so each completed knife brings a joy.

The pin in the back has a very specific function. It's not for a decoration.

mhlee
04-09-2013, 10:05 PM
The pin in the back has a very specific function. It's not for a decoration.

It's for balance, right?

Johnny.B.Good
04-09-2013, 10:27 PM
The new handle design has really grown on me.

Knife looks incredible, Marko.

Marko Tsourkan
04-09-2013, 11:09 PM
It's for balance, right?

No, it's to keep the shoulders (machi) lined up and tight against the guards. I borrowed this from Devin.

It also makes it easier to inject epoxy inside the handle, so whatever void there is (inside the handle) it gets filled, making the handle pretty much sealed on the inside.

M

mc2442
04-10-2013, 01:08 AM
Purdy!

JMac
04-10-2013, 02:06 AM
Love the lines of the handle

orange
04-10-2013, 11:29 AM
Fantastic!!!

stereo.pete
04-10-2013, 11:58 AM
Another beautiful gyuto Marko, well played!

Customfan
04-12-2013, 03:31 PM
Very elegant... I really like the look of that pin and that profile is superb..... Well done Marko!

:doublethumbsup:

Marko Tsourkan
06-03-2013, 11:38 AM
This is a list of knives I am working on right now. I hope to be able to get most of them out this week

180mm gyuto 52100 w/ironwood handle
180mm gyuto AEB-L w/walnut burl handle
240mm gyuto 19C27 w/cocobolo handle
255mm gyuto 52100 w/koa handle & poplar saya
240mm gyuto 52100 w/redwood handle & redwood saya

240mm gyuto 52100 w/cocobolo hanlde
275mm suji 52100 w/cocobolo handle

270mm suji 52100 w/snakewood handle

210mm suji AEB-L w/ironwood handle & poplar saya
270mm suji 52100 w/ironwood handle & poplar saya

245mm Chevron 52100 damascus gyuto koa set
255mm 52100 gyuto w/ cocobolo handle & walnut saya

Pics in once completed

ms4awd
06-03-2013, 01:21 PM
Are these accounted for already? custom orders or will they be stock knives for sale?

Marko Tsourkan
06-03-2013, 01:28 PM
The bottom two are not accounted for. The rest are old custom orders.

I threw these two in as I plan on finishing them asap and offering for sale (new month, rent payment).

I will post prices for those once they are completed. I am still using 2012 prices, so you can get an idea by checking a sticky on Prices. Damascus is priced at 3.75/mm and plain 52100 at 1.75/mm. Sayas are .4/mm for walnut and .5/mm (discounted) for koa. Folks who saw them at ECG can chime on the geometry and profile. Both are ground thin, yet with enough metal on spine to allow little to no flex.

M

ms4awd
06-03-2013, 01:41 PM
Marko Sent You a PM

evanjohnson
06-03-2013, 01:57 PM
Marko-
PM sent.
Thanks,
John

stereo.pete
06-03-2013, 07:40 PM
*crosses fingers* :whistling:

scott6452
06-04-2013, 04:58 PM
This is a list of knives I am working on right now. I hope to be able to get most of them out this week

180mm gyuto 52100 w/ironwood handle
180mm gyuto AEB-L w/walnut burl handle
240mm gyuto 19C27 w/cocobolo handle
255mm gyuto 52100 w/koa handle & poplar saya
240mm gyuto 52100 w/redwood handle & redwood saya

240mm gyuto 52100 w/cocobolo hanlde
275mm suji 52100 w/cocobolo handle

270mm suji 52100 w/snakewood handle

210mm suji AEB-L w/ironwood handle & poplar saya
270mm suji 52100 w/ironwood handle & poplar saya

245mm Chevron 52100 damascus gyuto koa set
255mm 52100 gyuto w/ cocobolo handle & walnut saya

Pics in once completed

Pm sent

99Limited
06-06-2013, 09:36 PM
This is a list of knives I am working on right now. I hope to be able to get most of them out this week

180mm gyuto 52100 w/ironwood handle
180mm gyuto AEB-L w/walnut burl handle
240mm gyuto 19C27 w/cocobolo handle
255mm gyuto 52100 w/koa handle & poplar saya
240mm gyuto 52100 w/redwood handle & redwood saya

240mm gyuto 52100 w/cocobolo hanlde
275mm suji 52100 w/cocobolo handle

270mm suji 52100 w/snakewood handle

210mm suji AEB-L w/ironwood handle & poplar saya
270mm suji 52100 w/ironwood handle & poplar saya

245mm Chevron 52100 damascus gyuto koa set
255mm 52100 gyuto w/ cocobolo handle & walnut saya

Pics in once completed

Do I see my order in this list????? :whistling:

Marko Tsourkan
06-06-2013, 10:19 PM
Yes, scheduled to ship out this Saturday.

ms4awd
06-11-2013, 12:21 PM
Your Mailbox is Full tried to send u a PM.... Do u have stabilized snakewood for handle and saya?

Dream Burls
06-11-2013, 02:41 PM
Your Mailbox is Full tried to send u a PM.... Do u have stabilized snakewood for handle and saya?

Snakewood is a natural hardwood and really doesn't need to be stabilized.

JohnnyChance
06-11-2013, 04:41 PM
And it is quite brittle and rarely available in larger sizes so it does not tend to make good saya wood. You could use snakewood for the handle and lacewood for the saya though.

ms4awd
06-11-2013, 05:53 PM
Thanks for the heads up guys re snakewood... Hav only seen it in pics and it looked nice maybe diff wood is a better option

99Limited
06-13-2013, 04:48 PM
Yes, scheduled to ship out this Saturday.

My mailman is beginning to think I'm crazy as I attack him like a madman screaming, "Where's my package, where's my package". :excited: :crossfingers: :excited:

Crothcipt
06-13-2013, 06:34 PM
lol at least you get to see your mail man. I have yet to see him to know when he/she gets here. On that note, I am wondering what address you sent it to.

Tried to pm. you but your box is full.

Marko Tsourkan
07-04-2013, 12:01 PM
This is a list of knives I am working on right now. I hope to be able to get most of them out this week

180mm gyuto 52100 w/ironwood handle
180mm gyuto AEB-L w/walnut burl handle
240mm gyuto 19C27 w/cocobolo handle
255mm gyuto 52100 w/koa handle & poplar saya
240mm gyuto 52100 w/redwood handle & redwood saya

240mm gyuto 52100 w/cocobolo hanlde
275mm suji 52100 w/cocobolo handle

270mm suji 52100 w/snakewood handle

210mm suji AEB-L w/ironwood handle & poplar saya
270mm suji 52100 w/ironwood handle & poplar saya

245mm Chevron 52100 damascus gyuto koa set
255mm 52100 gyuto w/ cocobolo handle & walnut saya

Pics in once completed

All these blades are done, just need to finish handles. Most handles are assembled, and are ready to be shaped.
In any event, all these are going to go out in the next 2 weeks.

M

Marko Tsourkan
10-20-2013, 06:06 PM
Hi guys,
I am getting my *stuff* together and am to step up with the custom order list that I have neglected. Folks who got on the list very early on, should hear from me within a couple of days.

It's been a long time, but I think I make better knives now than back then, and hopefully you find the wait worth it.

Thanks,

Marko

Anton
10-20-2013, 06:14 PM
Thanks Marko, looking forward to it

Marko Tsourkan
10-20-2013, 09:15 PM
Heat-treating a bunch of 52100 blades. Most are 240s and 225s, but there are a couple of 255s and 210s. 210s will be ready-made (available), the rest are either custom or bespoken ready-made.

M

Lefty
10-20-2013, 09:30 PM
Wait...a 210 is available?

Marko Tsourkan
10-20-2013, 09:32 PM
I profiled two for a change.

Lefty
10-20-2013, 10:21 PM
Crap!

Line cooked
10-21-2013, 05:32 PM
Nice!!!

mc2442
10-21-2013, 05:36 PM
Hi guys,
I am getting my *stuff* together and am to step up with the custom order list that I have neglected. Folks who got on the list very early on, should hear from me within a couple of days.

It's been a long time, but I think I make better knives now than back then, and hopefully you find the wait worth it.

Thanks,

Marko

Looking forward to it. Been quite a while.

zoze
10-22-2013, 01:55 AM
Hi guys,
I am getting my *stuff* together and am to step up with the custom order list that I have neglected. Folks who got on the list very early on, should hear from me within a couple of days.

It's been a long time, but I think I make better knives now than back then, and hopefully you find the wait worth it.

Thanks,

Marko
Good news.

Marko Tsourkan
11-05-2013, 09:20 AM
OK, this is official! I am resuming posting on the current work on Custom Orders.

I have had these orders for years now and need urgently to clear them.

Lauri
275mm suji in 52100 w/saya - thin salmond slicer
225mm suji in AEB-L w/saya - fruit slicer

James
275mm suji in52100
135mm petty in AEB-L

Steve
180mm gyuto in 52100
150mm petty in 52100

Rene
255mm gyuto in 52100 w/saya

Jason
275mm suji in 52100

AFKitchenknivesguy
11-08-2013, 02:51 AM
I'm loving the latest post. :D

Lefty
11-08-2013, 01:39 PM
I hate to slightly derail the thread, but I just thinned out my 240 gyuto, and put a nice easy sandpaper refinish on it, and it is the best cutting gyuto I've used. I think it's back to its original thinness BTE, and I'm amazed. Just wanted to add that, to get people pumped

scott6452
11-08-2013, 03:00 PM
I hate to slightly derail the thread, but I just thinned out my 240 gyuto, and put a nice easy sandpaper refinish on it, and it is the best cutting gyuto I've used. I think it's back to its original thinness BTE, and I'm amazed. Just wanted to add that, to get people pumped

It worked :doublethumbsup:

Marko Tsourkan
11-08-2013, 06:57 PM
Thank you.

I have a bunch of knives that need to have a name etched that I am going to do in one bunch. The thing about stencils I got from
http://www.erniesknives.com/knifemaker_logo.html

these will give you a dark mark only on the first use, regardless how many knives you etch. Every mark after that, is white. A little disappointing as you to get a dark mark, you use them once. I am going to order stencils from a different source once I use these up.

So, knives that are completed (including two damascus) are not listed on the list, but they are done but mark and etching. There are 4 in total.

M

XooMG
11-08-2013, 10:10 PM
I'm guessing it's a stupid question but have you seen Butch Harner's old video on marking?

http://youtu.be/ZSyuYYflu98

Marko Tsourkan
11-09-2013, 12:48 AM
I don't think the problem is in technique. Somehow the stencil feels dry the next day, and all subsequent use produce a white mark.

M

WillC
11-09-2013, 04:54 AM
I know you have been through all this and worked it out when you started, but Im using Ernie stencils too so for what its worth....
I get repeated black marks. They continue to work until I get degradation around the edges of the lettering or damage and pin holes in the resist material meaning I start to get extra marks which need to be removed after the etch. I have found my small logo's degrade very rapidly after one or two uses unless I turn the power of my machine down. I just have a 9v/18v switch on mine. I use 9v for small logo's 18v for big logos. After use and a clean I keep my logos out of the light.
I don't get a reliable black mark into 304L stainless on clad knives ever, so I leave my mark bright on these blades.

Marko Tsourkan
11-09-2013, 12:11 PM
I have an etching machine that allows to regulate the current. I find that high current removes metal fast, but also can give a blurry mark on some steel, so on the scale 1-5, I etch at 4. I will try to do it on a lower setting, and see if it makes much of a difference. Also, will keep the stencils in a tight container with some moisture in , to prevent over drying after the first use

See what happens.

Chef Niloc
11-10-2013, 01:27 AM
I'm loving the latest post. :D

Screw you Jason!! My names not up there and I'm blaming you LOL...it's ok the longer I wait the more Marko's skills grow.

Chef Niloc
11-10-2013, 02:44 AM
As far as the etching goes if I have this right and not backwards then it's DC current that etches and AC current that darkens? So you are starting with DC then switching to AC right, if not try it should help.

If you're already doing that then it might be the stencils as you're suggesting. I'm assuming you're using the silkscreening photo sensitive adhesive type stencils, usually blue? If so it's heat and abrasion that wears them out. The hotter the quicker they burn and fine lines and small detail burn the fastest.
Some things that might help?
1. If you can secure the stencil so that it can be lifted and replaced without screwing up the mark (registered or keyed in design terms) then you can flush with cold water that should help.
2. The heat is a byproduct of the electricity it's not necessary for the etching effect I.E. Your not burning the mark in with heat. So a cold blade will etch just as well as a room temperature one, chill the blade.
3. I get made fun of for saying this every time but WD-40 makes for cleaner darker marks. Everyone says they can't see how when one goes through all sorts of trouble to remove any traces of dirt or greas. I have never taken the time to research the Y but it just does, try it on some scrap. Still clean and prep the blade but before you put the stencil down spray the blade with WD-40.
4. Neutralizing the Mark and cleaning the stencil with ammonia not Windex straight ammonia. This is a step a lot of people don't do for some odd reason?? Someone once told me it's not necessary because it's not a true acid etch..... But it is in regards to the fact that it needs to be neutralized with a base and ammonia is a strong base and a great cleaner and degreaser...and cheap.
5. I don't know who makes them but there are silicone stencils that don't work off of the photosensitive adhesive system. They hold up a hell of a lot better and they stick to the blade by themselves, kind of like those sticky Slappy and or Colorforms ( Colorforms are made from vinyl not silicone, not to get off on a tangent)
6. But wait the tangent might hold some merit here. vinyl stencils might just work! Give your design to a sign maker in a vector type file and have them print you sheets of stickers. Use the negative (or positive for a reverse etch) as your stencil. They would be one shot stencils but cheap as hell and the way a vinyl sticker would stick to the blade would produce extremely clean marks.
If the singe maker says he can't do it go to another one, guys got a old printer/ cutter or doesn't know what he's doing...hell I'll bet there is someone on ebay that will custom cut for you. I don't know how small or intricate your mark is because I have never seen it first hand :cool2: LoL but seriously I have cut and gotten cut decals with detail as small as 1/10" before, lines less then a mm thick. You need a fine thin vinyl for it that's why some singe makers won't be able to do it. If you want to give it a shot look for someone who custom cuts "decals". I know they make them for fingernails/ manicure people. CAD film is what I think it's called? They use them to etch microchips, your mark can't be that fine.

Chef Niloc
11-10-2013, 02:54 AM
O wait that might be how the silicone stencils I have were made, with a vinyl printer/cutter??? Sounds reasonable definitely worth checking out

Marko Tsourkan
11-10-2013, 09:40 AM
Collin, thanks man-
How the hell do you know all this??

NO ChoP!
11-10-2013, 10:40 AM
Colorforms! Good memories....

Chef Niloc
11-10-2013, 05:59 PM
Collin, thanks man-
How the hell do you know all this??

I wasn't always a chef you know LOL
I have my MFA (Masters of fine art) in print making and design with a secondary emphasis of industrial sculpture.

Marko Tsourkan
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
I wasn't always a chef you know LOL
I have my MFA (Masters of fine art) in print making and design with a secondary emphasis of industrial sculpture.

Damn.

Lefty
11-10-2013, 07:00 PM
I wasn't always a chef you know LOL
I have my MFA (Masters of fine art) in print making and design with a secondary emphasis of industrial sculpture.

Easy for you to say. :D

AFKitchenknivesguy
11-12-2013, 01:21 AM
Screw you Jason!! My names not up there and I'm blaming you LOL...it's ok the longer I wait the more Marko's skills grow.

As long as my name is up there, I'll take all the blame I can get. You have a good point though...

Marko Tsourkan
11-12-2013, 09:32 AM
Collin, yours is a scimitar. It is still in R&D stage currently. In fact, I am sending out a template of a profile to a pro user (who uses a scimitar regularly) for a feedback, so that will get it a step closer.

Grind and handle (Western) has been settled already, not the profile. I would like to make a scimitar that is slightly distinctive but without taking away any of the functionality.

Also I am considering paring it with a little brother, 8" blade that looks like a small scimitar. Moreover, getting some requests for Western boning/filleting knives, so it looks like there will be more knives for meat/fish fabrication coming in the future.

Chef Niloc
11-12-2013, 07:54 PM
Collin, yours is a scimitar. It is still in R&D stage currently. In fact, I am sending out a template of a profile to a pro user (who uses a scimitar regularly) for a feedback, so that will get it a step closer.

Grind and handle (Western) has been settled already, not the profile. I would like to make a scimitar that is slightly distinctive but without taking away any of the functionality.

Also I am considering paring it with a little brother, 8" blade that looks like a small scimitar. Moreover, getting some requests for Western boning/filleting knives, so it looks like there will be more knives for meat/fish fabrication coming in the future.

Well I still blame Jason...

mr drinky
11-12-2013, 11:07 PM
I wasn't always a chef you know LOL
I have my MFA (Masters of fine art) in print making and design with a secondary emphasis of industrial sculpture.

That is awesome.

k.