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wsfarrell
12-18-2011, 02:59 AM
This Nakayama (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tennen-toishi-Nakayama-Light-Kiita-Asagi-Kan-Nashiji-Blood-splash-4557-/200650968043?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb7bacbeb) is from 330mate, and is selling for $17,600.

There are mineral inclusions, but don't worry: they're safe, and will disappear after the stone is worn down 6mm (I guess he took x-rays).

Yow!

Johnny.B.Good
12-18-2011, 03:15 AM
Thought about pulling the trigger on it, but $56.18 for shipping just seems outrageous. ;)

wsfarrell
12-18-2011, 03:34 AM
Thought about pulling the trigger on it, but $56.18 for shipping just seems outrageous. ;)

Good point. I think anything over $25k ships free.

jmforge
12-18-2011, 03:40 AM
Crazy, man!!

Johnny.B.Good
12-18-2011, 03:43 AM
I hope Maxim will weigh in on this...tell us whether we are passing up a great deal or not.

jmforge
12-18-2011, 03:46 AM
I blanched when I first heard about the $3-4000 stones!!!!!!

bieniek
12-18-2011, 08:55 AM
Stone so good, you dont even have to use it to have your knives sharp

Schtoo
12-18-2011, 10:23 AM
Wow.

I usually stay away from naturals, but still can't avoid them sometimes...

http://blog-imgs-45.fc2.com/t/s/u/tsune36/DSC00584.jpg

The Nakayama tomae on the bottom left of that picture is sitting in my spare room right now.


Nice stone, unbranded, but with an unquestionable pedigree all the same.

(That reads that if the stone was anything other than described, the seller would be run out of Kyoto on a pole.)


I think I'll stay happy with my garden variety man made stuff for now.

But I do get sorely tempted at times...

(And very nearly added something else from that picture to my spare room, where it would stay until I wanted to use it myself. :) )

Stu.

mainaman
12-18-2011, 10:38 AM
Wow.

I usually stay away from naturals, but still can't avoid them sometimes...

http://blog-imgs-45.fc2.com/t/s/u/tsune36/DSC00584.jpg

The Nakayama tomae on the bottom left of that picture is sitting in my spare room right now.


Nice stone, unbranded, but with an unquestionable pedigree all the same.

(That reads that if the stone was anything other than described, the seller would be run out of Kyoto on a pole.)


I think I'll stay happy with my garden variety man made stuff for now.

But I do get sorely tempted at times...

(And very nearly added something else from that picture to my spare room, where it would stay until I wanted to use it myself. :) )

Stu.
is that 330mate stone?

@ OP
that guy sells a ton of junk stones, he basically finds them at abandoned quarries and calls them all nakayamas, with some exceptions.
The stones are full with lines and inclusions, tottal crap. Many many people have been burned by his low quality junk.

When dealing with naturals it is best to buy from a reputable seller to know what you are getting.

welshstar
12-18-2011, 11:34 AM
Interesting that the second youtube video in the link shows him slashing his wrist !!

Not a good sign for a seller generally

Schtoo
12-18-2011, 12:12 PM
is that 330mate stone?



Absolutely not.

(Dang near insulting that is! ;) )

The stones are at Tsunesaburo, a Japanese plane maker. I asked if they could find a natural stone matched to a 70mm wide tamahagane plane blade they made up for me specially, and that's what they picked up, trying most of the larger stones to find the best match. I got offered 3 different stones, with suggestions on what each was like, told them what the ultimate owner already has and what they were after, end decision was the tomae.

If it came from nearly anyone else, I'd be asking serious questions about it's origins.

From Tsunesaburo, no questions needed. Their reputation is without peer, and nobody would be stupid enough to sell them junk.

I'm not stupid enough to call their choice into question, and only offered a simple "thank you very much" for their help.


(For the record, I think I've met the fellow who runs 330mate. I don't think he likes me very much, but I could be wrong.)

Stu.