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bprescot
02-01-2012, 01:48 PM
This Super Bowl we, like many, will be having a few guests over. Wings, buffalo sauce, pizza, and ribs will all make an appearance. But not all of our guests are as meat positive. For them, I was going to do a chili. That's right, a vegetarian chili, already a-traditional in the realm of chili aficianados. But here's the thing, I'd like to skip the beans in favor of lentil and hominy. Maybe some farro as well. I've done a test run that turned out tasty, but not quite what I was going for. I'm already caramelizing the tomatoes, and using a nice roasted veg stock. Chipotles and home ground chili powder (predominantly ancho, but some others in there as well.) But it needs more depth. I'm thinking some beer in there, but I'm not entirely sure. Unfortunately, I don't have time to run another test batch, so this next one is the one that gets served, meaning I need to get it right.

Any ideas guys? And don't "add beef". I agree with you, but it's gotta stay ... well ... vegan.

Thanks!
Ben


P.S. I'm well aware of how heated chili conversations can become. I count a good number of Texans among my friends, and have had to listen to them talk at length about the virtues, and indeed, exclusivity of Texas Red, going so far as to claim it as the one true chili. So to be clear, I'm not trying to open up any of those cans of worms! I just need some help. I'm not trying to re-define the word chili.

DeepCSweede
02-01-2012, 02:02 PM
Not sure if you are having a texture issue or flavor issue - but I believe a good darker beer would help (scotch ale maybe or a darker mexican beer)
Masa Harina may thicken it without adding the hominy's texture. Another thought would be to use some grilled / chopped up portabella's to add a somewhat meaty level to the dish.
Definitely use the lentils. Costco has a lentil mix that is very chili-ish that I like occasionally for a quick snack.

Good Luck on your challenge.

Eric

bprescot
02-01-2012, 02:37 PM
Thanks Eric! No, it's definitely the flavor. The first batch I made had great meaty feel to it from the hominy and lentil. The flavor profile was a bit... I don't know. Just lacking somehow. Not deep enough. The spice was nice, the seasoning was nice ... it was all around pretty dang tasty, but not what it could be. My gut is telling me to add a nice dark beer as well. But I do like the idea of charred portabellas. I'm also thinking of subbing out the masa as thickener (planned to do this with the first batch, but ended up being out and made a quick dark roux [but with canola... eww]) for either ground nuts or sesame seed... Maybe a bit of chocolate in there as well...

DeepCSweede
02-01-2012, 02:54 PM
You may also consider using some Sazon Goya Seasoning Salt in it - I haven't ever used it personally but it has come up in conversation with a few people that I know.

Be interested to hear how it turns out.

Pabloz
02-01-2012, 03:00 PM
The one thing that always seems to be lacking in the Chili flavor arena for me is the Comino. Most people use it way too lightly for my taste. Get it whole, lightly pan toast then grind and add....salt to taste. ALSO...white wine brightens the flavor of Red Chili....not so much the green...something about the alcohol and carotinoids?????

Kyle
02-01-2012, 03:03 PM
The one thing that always seems to be lacking in the Chili flavor arena for me is the Comino. Most people use it way too lightly for my taste. Get it whole, lightly pan toast then grind and add....salt to taste.

That's what I was thinking. Cumin. And lots of it.

Also, some Mexican oregano if you can find. Coco powder or grated Mexican hot chocolate works well, but the hot chocolate wouldn't be vegan since it contains milk, but if you stick with coco powder you're still good.

SpikeC
02-01-2012, 04:07 PM
A little age will help as well. Young chili is never as good as aged!

tk59
02-01-2012, 04:47 PM
I've had the same problem where time is short. I tend to make a large amount of the base chili, soup, etc. and then take a small amount and alter it gradually to taste and then go back to the big batch once I'm done. As for what to add aside from what's been mentioned, I might try something like a nut or bean paste of some kind or possibly a nut oil. I also like to add a bit of molasses to a lot of things at various stage of cooking.

Craig
02-01-2012, 05:49 PM
I do vegan chili all the time. The two keys to the recipe I prefer are cumin, as has already been mentioned, and bulghur. The bulghur helps with texture and puts a slightly different background on the entire flavour of the dish.

It makes decent chili, but what I mostly use it for is chili nachos. You can make it really thick and it won't give off much moisture in the oven, so your nachos don't get soggy.

bprescot
02-01-2012, 06:18 PM
It's funny you mention bulghur, as I almost made it with bulgur instead of the dried hominy. But who can say no to big fat hominy kernels?!

ecchef
02-01-2012, 06:27 PM
I use seitan as a meat substitute. Most people can't tell. And canned chipotle peppers in adobo.

joec
02-01-2012, 06:55 PM
Here is some tips from my way of making chili though I use 3lbs of Beef Chuck cut into 1" cubes which you can leave out. I might say I don't use beans in my chili unless it is requested. This also includes my favorite seasoning mix for chili.

Ingredients:
Chili Seasoning
3 dried ancho peppers, stemmed and seeded
2 tablespoons dried oregano
2 tablespoons sweet paprika
2 tablespoons whole coriander
1 tablespoon cumin seed
1 tablespoon chili powder

3 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil
2 onions, chopped
Kosher salt and freshly ground black pepper
6 cloves garlic, chopped
1 canned chipotle chile, chopped
1/2 jalapeno pepper, chopped
2 (28-ounce) cans whole tomatoes, hand crushed
1 cinnamon stick
1 teaspoon sugar
2 tablespoons masa harina (corn meal)
1/2 tablet Mexican chocolate (about 1 1/2 ounces)
Grated queso fresco, for garnish (cheese)
Cilantro leaves, for garnish
Lime wedges, for garnish

sw2geeks
02-01-2012, 07:11 PM
I saw this vegan chili recipe the other day, It was posted on a website that also had my recipe posted on it. It has some coco powder in it.

http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2012/01/healthy-super-bowl-party-chili.html

sw2geeks
02-01-2012, 07:13 PM
I think a lot of my chili tips I have will work with your chili. Just skip the beef part.

http://www.dfw.com/2012/01/30/569907/texas-chili-tips.html

Kyle
02-01-2012, 07:15 PM
I saw this vegan chili recipe the other day, It was posted on a website that also had my recipe posted on it. It has some coco powder in it.

http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2012/01/healthy-super-bowl-party-chili.html


That's more or less what I did a couple weeks ago when I made vegan chili, except I added corn and used pureed and strained dried New Mexico chiles instead of chili powder.

apicius9
02-01-2012, 08:49 PM
what's next? - decaffeinated coffee? :D

Stefan

DevinT
02-01-2012, 08:59 PM
Tomato paste.

Hoss

The Edge
02-02-2012, 03:46 AM
I'm sure you already do this, but I can't start a chili without carmelizing onions. Usually adds depth to the sauce, and an added benefit of thickening if cooked long enough. In addition to cumin, I do love freshly toasted and ground coriander seeds.

hax9215
02-04-2012, 10:11 AM
Nut paste is right, what you really want is roasted pumpkin seeds (currently having a senior moment regarding the spanish term for this) but peanut butter works. Try Dos Equus Dark. Blue corn posole (hominy) if you can get it, and yes you will taste the difference!

Hax CLEAVERS RULE!!! :D

Lucretia
02-04-2012, 10:51 AM
pumpkin seeds = pepitas

ThEoRy
02-04-2012, 04:55 PM
I know you said no beans and while I totally agree with that one as I hate kidney beans in any chilli. However, my buddy makes a slammin black bean chilli. I do love black beans though. He uses onion, jalapeno, garlic, cumin, chilli powder and sometimes chipotle for a little smokiness. Garnish with diced red onion, cheddar, fried corn tortilla strips and sour cream? Win!!

Pabloz
02-05-2012, 12:32 PM
That's more or less what I did a couple weeks ago when I made vegan chili, except I added corn and used pureed and strained dried New Mexico chiles instead of chili powder.

Kyle,
Thats the WAY!!!.

PZ

Phip
02-05-2012, 02:35 PM
Corn +1
Roast chilies then peel and dice
Butternut squash cubes
Finely minced cilantro stalks, but make sure to add in time to let them dissolve
Dark chocolate
Careful w/ the beer: No IPAs or other super hopped varieties or you'll get a bitterness that sugar won't remove
Secret weapon: a diced anchovie, but I guess the vegans will nix that

bprescot
02-06-2012, 04:03 PM
Alright. Well that turned out great! The only hominy I have in the house is blue hominy, so I used that, farro, and lentils as the grains. I used my roasted veg stock, and supplemented a bit of reduced boxed mushroom broth. Added a bottle of Milk Stout (no milk in there, just lactose) and some cocoa powder. Thickened with Masa. Chilis were hand ground New Mexico, California, and Mulattos, plus some diced chipotles. Could have used a bit more heat says I, but others found it spicy enough...

Thick I'll bring this guy to the next company chili-cookoff and watch the Texans erupt in protest!

Thanks for all the help guys!!!

bprescot
02-06-2012, 04:19 PM
Well crap. Turns out even artificially produced lactose has a dairy base and is therefore not vegan... Whatever. What they don't know won't kill them.

WildBoar
02-06-2012, 06:55 PM
Haha, that's the spirit! Also, the sauteed veggies will have more flavor if you saute them in bacon grease :biggrin: