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monty
03-24-2011, 06:29 PM
I got a few knives in to sharpen today. Among the various Chicago Cutlery and Henkels I received, this one stood out. It is perhaps the ugliest knife I have ever seen. If you have an uglier knife (I find that hard to believe), post a pic to proove it :lol2: :cool2:

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk281/monty3777/DSC02607.jpg

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk281/monty3777/DSC02608.jpg

WildBoar
03-24-2011, 06:38 PM
haha, that is ugly, although it is also original. A baguette-shaped bread knife is not something you see every day. I like the thought, even if the practicality is somewhat lacking.

oivind_dahle
03-24-2011, 07:34 PM
I have seen worse
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=834072

apicius9
03-25-2011, 12:08 AM
Now there is an idea, I could whittle some fish-shaped handles for yanagis or rib-bone shaped ones for the cow swords :idea:

Stefan

Pensacola Tiger
03-25-2011, 12:26 AM
Speaking of fish knives, how about this one from Korin?

http://korin.com/core/media/media.nl?id=33109&c=832324&h=fc642a626faedaa27448

kalaeb
03-25-2011, 02:29 AM
I always thought this was the worst:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/11Ufqgbn9kL._SL250_.jpg

Eamon Burke
04-03-2011, 01:45 AM
Found a new one! This guy is a full on knife maker(he even says he differentially heat treats stainless), but this knife is BUTT UGLY if I've ever seen one.
http://www.haslinger-knives.com/images/evolution-redwood.jpg
:puke::puke:

Lefty
04-04-2011, 11:58 PM
Ok...look at haslinger's other stuff! His chef knives are incredible to look at!
I DO agree that this one in particular is pretty horrendous.

ecchef
04-05-2011, 01:27 AM
I always thought this was the worst:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/11Ufqgbn9kL._SL250_.jpg

We got a winnah! :puke:

festally
04-05-2011, 09:35 AM
My votes:puke:

http://images.buyitsellit.com/1864004.jpg
http://images.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/shun/images/dm0518.jpg

stereo.pete
04-05-2011, 12:30 PM
We got a winnah! :puke:

Wow that particular blade is the perfect example of a frakenknife. Hey let's take every knife ever produced and combine them all into one package and then put a little black ball on the spine of the blade, duh, winning.

Andrew H
04-06-2011, 12:35 AM
Dear lord that thing is horrendous.

Dave Martell
04-08-2011, 06:08 PM
That Shun cleaver just made me throw up in my mouth.

festally
04-08-2011, 06:28 PM
Guy Fieri' Knuckle Sandwich Knives and +1 on the Shun KO cleaver :puke:. Is it me or does the KO cleaver look alot like the one above:Ooooh:

mpukas
04-26-2011, 07:35 AM
Here's Rachael Ray's attempt at the ugliest knife - the Furi (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003XSUV2S/ref=asc_df_B003XSUV2S1520428?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B003XSUV2S)!!! :Ooooh:

How about the Shun Ultimate Utility Knife (http://www.kershawknives.com/productdetails.php?id=402&brand=shun)? :ohmy:

Have you guys caught an episode of Ming Tsai lately? I watched him a couple of times in the past few months and he's been using some new club of a knife, and I can't find out what it is. He's known for using Kyocera ceramics, but this thing is completely different. It's stainless, and I think by Global, but not sure. It's kinda a cross between a gyuto and that hideous Shun Onion cleaver thing. It's shaped like a Beluga whale with a downward curve in the middle of the spine and a big bulbous head above the tip.

Salty dog
04-26-2011, 11:03 AM
Found a new one! This guy is a full on knife maker(he even says he differentially heat treats stainless), but this knife is BUTT UGLY if I've ever seen one.
http://www.haslinger-knives.com/images/evolution-redwood.jpg
:puke::puke:

I and a few others had the oppurtunity to check this knife out. If I'm not mistaken it was panned by everyone.

tk59
04-26-2011, 11:12 AM
I have to go with the Shun ultimate utility but kudos to the Ken Onion line. Those handles could ruin the look of any blade.

SpikeC
04-26-2011, 12:43 PM
I dunno, that RR is just about the most eye piercing thing I have seen in a looong time.

ecchef
04-26-2011, 02:33 PM
I dunno, that RR is just about the most eye piercing thing I have seen in a looong time.

Yeah, that really is an abomination.

SpikeC
04-26-2011, 03:33 PM
I just read the reviews of the "Furi" on Amazon, and they think that is an expensive knife and you get what you pay for. The price? A whole $29.99!!!!

bieniek
04-26-2011, 06:34 PM
God damn the Ken Onion guy and whole of this company for taking advantage of mindless people . . . Like the super handle or special Kramer series makes your food better
Or this TV- shop knife with that plump bastard in commercial trying to sell that crap saying its the best honey in universe.

Pensacola Tiger
04-26-2011, 06:44 PM
God damn the Ken Onion guy and whole of this company for taking advantage of mindless people . . . Like the super handle or special Kramer series makes your food better
Or this TV- shop knife with that plump bastard in commercial trying to sell that crap saying its the best honey in universe.

Hey, wait a minute! If it wasn't true, they couldn't say it on TV, right? :biggrin2:

WildBoar
04-26-2011, 06:52 PM
Food TV Exec: "Here Guy, we have a knife we want you to market for us."

Guy: "Well, I don't know if I'm interested. The profile stinks and the handle slopes in the wrong direction. Besides, I already make enough money."

Food TV Exec: "We'll let you design a flame patten for the handle."

Guy: "I'm in!!!!!!"

Michael Rader
04-26-2011, 07:23 PM
Whew. I had to check and make sure my knives weren't in here.
-M

festally
04-26-2011, 07:33 PM
Flames on the handle would be off the hook, but let’s also name the knife….hmmm….a knuckle sandwich….now that’s money!!!!! :shocked:

SpikeC
04-26-2011, 07:46 PM
Remember the "Most Beautiful Knife" thread or on the KF kitchen site? I did a search over there and came up with nothing. As I recall there were some pretty ugly knives shown in that thread also. I'd like to take another look at that, does it still exist anywhere?

WildBoar
04-26-2011, 07:53 PM
Remember the "Most Beautiful Knife" thread or on the KF kitchen site? I did a search over there and came up with nothing. As I recall there were some pretty ugly knives shown in that thread also. I'd like to take another look at that, does it still exist anywhere?That thread involved almost immediately into the "Post Every Knife Ever Made" thread. Yeah, it had quite a few horrific knives. Probably best if that thread disappeared into the night, or was taken out by a ninja assassin. :ninja:

Eamon Burke
04-26-2011, 11:31 PM
Remember the "Most Beautiful Knife" thread or on the KF kitchen site? I did a search over there and came up with nothing. As I recall there were some pretty ugly knives shown in that thread also. I'd like to take another look at that, does it still exist anywhere?

http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/891030/tp/1/

The fun starts on page 12.

Good luck loading that crap. I had to switch to Firefox to check.

SpikeC
04-26-2011, 11:53 PM
Thanks, it's just as whacked out as I remember!

bieniek
04-28-2011, 05:38 AM
Hey, wait a minute! If it wasn't true, they couldn't say it on TV, right? :biggrin2:

Nah, then im going to order full set and maybe they will throw in signed kitchen cloth:eek2:
How could would that be? :happy2:

mr drinky
04-28-2011, 09:55 AM
Those are some ugly knives, but the one I could never stomach was this anti-stab-knife. It is like buying a knife with a broken tip, and the anti-stab lines of the blade are so unnatural that I think my eyes would reject it and I would go blind in its presence.

http://specialmagickitchen.com/anti-stab-knife.jpg

k.

bieniek
04-28-2011, 09:57 AM
:eek2:
Is that really for kitchen use? :ohmy:

mr drinky
04-28-2011, 10:02 AM
:eek2:
Is that really for kitchen use? :ohmy:

The reasoning behind the knife is that it could be used for the kitchen but could never be used to inflict a fatal wound if someone used it as a weapon. Of course, I bet Jason Hunter from the Denver Broncos now wishes he had bought these knives.

Here is the story about the 'logic' of this knife.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6501720.ece

k.

bieniek
04-28-2011, 10:09 AM
But you dont have to stab anybody to make a fatal wound because it still have a piece of edge to slice through things...
As always instead look after mental health of the society its better to give people a dummy.

FryBoy
04-28-2011, 01:17 PM
How about this swell "steak saw"?

http://www.funslurp.com/images/steaksawa.jpg

SpikeC
04-28-2011, 01:37 PM
Oh lordy............

mr drinky
04-28-2011, 02:15 PM
Oh lordy +1

SpikeC
04-28-2011, 02:35 PM
:puke: I'll bet you could saw muffins with that too.................

WildBoar
04-28-2011, 02:46 PM
New handle idea for Marco? :-)

aaronsgibson
04-28-2011, 02:48 PM
So after you are through sawing not only your steak in half along with the plate, you can go out and cut yourself down a tree! What will they think of next. Oh wait they did. Saw it on a commercial few nights ago it was called the "robo stir" and it goes into your sauce or what not and keeps your sauce perfect! God what will they think of next.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3zPsmuE1bY

(first time imputing a video let me know if it works) But I think you'll get the gist.

SpikeC
04-28-2011, 02:53 PM
:haha4:

Eamon Burke
04-28-2011, 09:15 PM
Those are some ugly knives, but the one I could never stomach was this anti-stab-knife. It is like buying a knife with a broken tip, and the anti-stab lines of the blade are so unnatural that I think my eyes would reject it and I would go blind in its presence.

http://specialmagickitchen.com/anti-stab-knife.jpg

k.

My toddler is in my lap(she's almost 2), and when she saw this, she started wagging her finger and saying "NO NO NO. NO NO.":lol2::lol2::lol2:

Eamon Burke
04-28-2011, 09:17 PM
So after you are through sawing not only your steak in half along with the plate, you can go out and cut yourself down a tree! What will they think of next. Oh wait they did. Saw it on a commercial few nights ago it was called the "robo stir" and it goes into your sauce or what not and keeps your sauce perfect! God what will they think of next.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3zPsmuE1bY

(first time imputing a video let me know if it works) But I think you'll get the gist.

If I had a restaurant, I'd buy that just for risotto. I mean, come on. Why wouldn't you.

steeley
04-28-2011, 09:36 PM
And it is serrated :slaphead:
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5148/bellemaison312375001.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/i/bellemaison312375001.jpg/)

shankster
04-28-2011, 10:00 PM
And it is serrated :slaphead:
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5148/bellemaison312375001.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/i/bellemaison312375001.jpg/)

That's not a knife,it's a tool to trim shrubbery.

Eamon Burke
04-28-2011, 10:03 PM
Cut an onion with that thing tear free, and you deserve an award. Was that thing never tested?

steeley
04-29-2011, 01:11 AM
Not a knife but its PIZZA SCISSORS.
first i heard of it but people seem to like them
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/20/41vlw3h1n6lsl500aa300.jpg (http://img546.imageshack.us/i/41vlw3h1n6lsl500aa300.jpg/)

MadMel
05-09-2011, 12:20 PM
Not a knife but its PIZZA SCISSORS.
first i heard of it but people seem to like them
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/20/41vlw3h1n6lsl500aa300.jpg (http://img546.imageshack.us/i/41vlw3h1n6lsl500aa300.jpg/)

the idea is there but as for the practicality of it... I'll leave it to someone who has used it to comment

EdipisReks
05-09-2011, 02:19 PM
if my steak needs a saw i'm going to throw it out and start over.

i have a rachel ray furi santoku. a few years ago, my girlfriend and i were house sitting/dog watching for somebody, and the kitchen, otherwise very nice and great for cooking in, was outfitted with glass "cutting boards" and incredibly dull knives (go figure). i didn't want to drive all the way home to grab one of my Shuns (what i was using at the time), or risk the GF accidentally using one on said glass cutting boards, so i went out and bought a small bamboo board and the rachel ray santoku (it was the cheapest knife the nearby sur la table had, at a big post-christmas discount). it was incredibly dull out of the packaging, but there was an arkansas stone in the kitchen, which looked like it had never been used, and i was able to put a decent edge on it. even a vaguely sharp knife can make cooking a lot more enjoyable. i use it for partitioning frozen food, now, and it works great for that. it's a perfect wedge. it's really ugly, though, so it lives in a drawer.

i've always thought the Ken Onion Shuns were godawful ugly, and i can't imagine the ergonomics work all that well.

SpikeC
05-09-2011, 06:53 PM
Boy Howdy, do I ever agree about the Onion Shuns! They SHOULD be shunned!

Eamon Burke
05-12-2011, 03:53 PM
http://www.jayfisher.com/_borders/SaussureAustralianTigerIron1.jpg

EdipisReks
05-12-2011, 04:07 PM
i don't even know what that is.

SpikeC
05-12-2011, 04:20 PM
HA-HA! I went to that guy's web site too, Carter self promotes, he is the picture of modesty compared to this guy! All you guys not using 440C should be ashamed of yourselves! I especially like that he nickel PLATES the steel on the handles! You don't get much more high end than that!

Potato42
05-12-2011, 04:21 PM
http://www.jayfisher.com/_borders/SaussureAustralianTigerIron1.jpg

Awwww you beat me to it. Now tell everyone what it cost:headbonk::what::ohmy::yuck::puke::eeew:

FryBoy
05-12-2011, 04:33 PM
i don't even know what that is.
Swiss cheese knife. Duh!

Dave Martell
05-12-2011, 04:37 PM
http://www.jayfisher.com/_borders/SaussureAustralianTigerIron1.jpg


I'm sure that Jay Fisher makes a well made knife but this must be the worst execution of a chef's knife that I've ever seen. In fact, this knife should be shown to new makers as and example of what not to do in every respect.

FryBoy
05-12-2011, 04:42 PM
A new contender has emerged: THE KUHN RIKON MELON KNIFE!

http://www.kuhnrikon.com/images/database/zoom_images/product_zoom_462.jpg

And as an extra added bonus for our loyal viewers, a VIDEO!


www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sy8pu3CX0I

EdipisReks
05-12-2011, 04:45 PM
it's a knife?

StephanFowler
05-12-2011, 04:52 PM
Awwww you beat me to it. Now tell everyone what it cost:headbonk::what::ohmy::yuck::puke::eeew:

that's not really a good idea,

I have nothing against Jay but wow, that's an "interesting" knife

Mattias504
05-12-2011, 04:56 PM
That looks like some tacky bowie knife that you'd buy on ebay for $80. I bet that thing wedges like a mofo.

SpikeC
05-12-2011, 05:00 PM
He is really sold on hollow grinds for cooking knives.

mr drinky
05-12-2011, 05:10 PM
I'm sure that Jay Fisher makes a well made knife but this must be the worst execution of a chef's knife that I've ever seen. In fact, this knife should be shown to new makers as and example of what not to do in every respect.

That guy is getting the most out of his Spyderco hole license.

k.

Eamon Burke
05-12-2011, 05:15 PM
And as an extra added bonus for our loyal viewers, a VIDEO!


www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sy8pu3CX0I

At 22 seconds, she almost looses a finger. And that was the final take?!

EdipisReks
05-12-2011, 05:45 PM
At 22 seconds, she almost looses a finger. And that was the final take?!

probably the second to final. she actually did lose the finger in the final take.

SpikeC
05-12-2011, 10:10 PM
So what constitutes a "Master" chef's knife?

EdipisReks
05-12-2011, 10:11 PM
So what constitutes a "Master" chef's knife?

bating.

Potato42
05-12-2011, 10:45 PM
So what constitutes a "Master" chef's knife?


bating.

Took me a minute...

EdipisReks
05-12-2011, 11:01 PM
:-)

bieniek
05-13-2011, 11:34 AM
i don't even know what that is.

What do you mean you dont know?

Thats Princes of Persia kitchen knife !
Or Sandokans Sword, if you like
Some people wont ever realize that you dent need fancy to get good result...

BertMor
05-22-2011, 12:26 PM
I and a few others had the oppurtunity to check this knife out. If I'm not mistaken it was panned by everyone.

I remember Fish had one of these Haslinger, and he said that it was one of his favorite knives, beating out a Hattori KD. It looks pretty weird I admit. What didn't you like about it?

stevenStefano
06-09-2011, 05:21 PM
I think this one gets the double whammy. Worst looking knife and worst name

I give you the Goldhamster Solicut - Plenum Santoku Special

http://www.edenwebshops.co.uk/productimages/goldhamster/GH156-111-19-solicut-santoku-gaatjes-large.jpg

Where I found this abomination (http://www.edenwebshops.co.uk/en/pt/-goldhamster-solicut-plenum-santoku-special.htm)

Eamon Burke
06-09-2011, 06:20 PM
This is my favorite thread.

SpikeC
06-09-2011, 06:50 PM
GOLDHAMSTER????????????
That is the most unfortunate name for a kitchen product ever devised!

Potato42
06-09-2011, 10:31 PM
I think this one gets the double whammy. Worst looking knife and worst name

I give you the Goldhamster Solicut - Plenum Santoku Special

http://www.edenwebshops.co.uk/productimages/goldhamster/GH156-111-19-solicut-santoku-gaatjes-large.jpg

Where I found this abomination (http://www.edenwebshops.co.uk/en/pt/-goldhamster-solicut-plenum-santoku-special.htm)

HAHA! I even like how the knife has those little hamster dropping trails on it! Really ties it all together!

Shepherd
06-12-2011, 02:29 AM
I'm sure that Jay Fisher makes a well made knife but this must be the worst execution of a chef's knife that I've ever seen. In fact, this knife should be shown to new makers as and example of what not to do in every respect.

I'm thinking it would be a real PITA to clean whatever you're cutting out of all those holes:doublebanghead:

he sure has some >koff< interesting opinions on geometry and steel selection

mr drinky
06-12-2011, 05:18 PM
This half-time knife isn't particularly ugly, but it is such an ugly idea. It is so wrong in so many ways.

http://specialmagickitchen.com/half_time_knife.jpg

half-time knife (http://www.cookingenthusiast.com/half-time%238482%3B-knife/p/WAP10040/)

And once you buy the half-time knife, they offer a special half-time sharpener because sharpening it will be a PITA.

half-time sharpener (http://www.cookingenthusiast.com/the-perfect-sharpener-for-our-half-time%238482%3B-knife/p/WAP10040S/)

k.

bieniek
06-12-2011, 05:35 PM
But imagine, who else provide you with specially designed designer brush to clean your knife? How amazing offer is that? Ill go for it!!

SpikeC
06-12-2011, 05:57 PM
The ad said " just as professionals do when they hold two chef's knives together".
So why not just hold two knives together? I suspect that using one knife would actually be faster because that thing looks so clumsy!

bieniek
06-12-2011, 05:59 PM
But do you really ever-ever chop the **** out of your herbs with a knife or two? With sharp knife youll slice them finer than you could chop it with no loss of flavonoids/oils.

Dave Martell
06-12-2011, 06:05 PM
This half-time knife isn't particularly ugly, but it is such an ugly idea. It is so wrong in so many ways.

http://specialmagickitchen.com/half_time_knife.jpg

half-time knife (http://www.cookingenthusiast.com/half-time%238482%3B-knife/p/WAP10040/)

And once you buy the half-time knife, they offer a special half-time sharpener because sharpening it will be a PITA.

half-time sharpener (http://www.cookingenthusiast.com/the-perfect-sharpener-for-our-half-time%238482%3B-knife/p/WAP10040S/)


k.


http://www.cookingenthusiast.com/images/250/C_SMAB50000.JPG

:haha4:

Dave Martell
06-12-2011, 06:06 PM
HAHA! I even like how the knife has those little hamster dropping trails on it! Really ties it all together!


Yeah that's exactly what they look like too.

mr drinky
06-12-2011, 06:13 PM
But do you really ever-ever chop the **** out of your herbs with a knife or two? With sharp knife youll slice them finer than you could chop it with no loss of flavonoids/oils.

I like how the two reviews on the site are horrible. One guy says that food wedges between the blades. Great. Now you have to try poke out food between two blades. At least they won't be that sharp.

Here is the quote: "I find this very frustrating to use for chopping onions, celery, or other fresh veggies, due to the chunks being caught up in between the blades, choking the chopping action. This means I have to stop and remove these chunks before continuing to chop. Not time saving for me at all."

k.

FryBoy
06-15-2011, 02:02 PM
A new contender in the $200+ category:

http://images.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/shun/images/KSDM0520a.jpg

WildBoar
06-15-2011, 02:20 PM
^^^
Those Ken Onions knives are so friggin' stupid-looking. They seem like they were all engineered by people who have never cut anything in a kitchen. Knives for Microwavers to put out on display :flush:

SpikeC
06-15-2011, 03:21 PM
What is up with the pregnant guppy handle??

Eamon Burke
06-15-2011, 04:13 PM
But the lack of pointiness is so non-threatening! We don't want to hurt our food's feelings, do we?


BTW that halftime knife says "just like when pros hold 2 chef's knives". Oh yeah, because I do that ALL the time.

SpikeC
06-15-2011, 04:21 PM
To bad they don't realize that that the two knives are one in each hand!

FryBoy
06-15-2011, 05:30 PM
This half-time knife isn't particularly ugly, but it is such an ugly idea. It is so wrong in so many ways. . . .
It's a variation on the good old double-bladed mezzaluna:

http://www.wellpromo.com/upload/upimg64/Mincing-Knife-And-Bamboo-Board-145064.jpg

Never saw much point in that, either, unless you're running a minced herbs factory.

SpikeC
06-15-2011, 06:30 PM
:cookoo:
Jeeze, chopping herbs is so easy it is just ridiculous to drag out more stuff that has to be cleaned! It seems to be an American trait to come up with labor saving devices that end up causing more labor than they save.

FryBoy
06-16-2011, 12:21 AM
Actually, I think the mezzaluna and double-bladed mezzaluna are Italian inventions from the 1800s. Not sure about that...

Dragonaut
06-16-2011, 02:01 PM
My first post here and what better way to start off than to show you the ugliest knife, by far, that I've ever seen.

The best part is. It's MINE :lol2: I'm sorry about the crappy cell phone pic. But that's all I've got.

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk287/dragonaut79/mobilen/attachment-4MEDXV-1.jpg

I don't know if you can see it. But the knife is slightly serrated in the first 3 inches or so. It also has a grooved thumb rest. I have no idea what you are supposed to use this knife for. But it sure is ugly :thumbsup:

SpikeC
06-16-2011, 03:22 PM
Steak knife?

Dragonaut
06-16-2011, 03:27 PM
Steak knife?

I believe it's a bit too big for that. The blade is about 8 inches long. And the handle about 6 inches.

SpikeC
06-16-2011, 03:29 PM
Porterhouse steak knife?

Dragonaut
06-16-2011, 03:39 PM
Haha, i don't think so ;) It's made here in Sweden, and we traditionally don't eat that large steaks.:viking:

WildBoar
06-16-2011, 03:48 PM
Haha, i don't think so ;) It's made here in Sweden, and we traditionally don't eat that large steaks.:viking:I guess that means it's probably not a pumpkin knife, either. :laugh:

Dragonaut
06-16-2011, 03:50 PM
I guess that means it's probably not a pumpkin knife, either. :laugh:
Probarbly not no. :)

SpikeC
06-16-2011, 03:52 PM
Might make a good one, tho..................

FryBoy
06-16-2011, 04:27 PM
Fish filet knife? Boning knife?

Eamon Burke
06-16-2011, 05:02 PM
The grooves on the back are called "Jimping" it's for grip. Sortof.

Dragonaut
06-16-2011, 05:13 PM
The grooves on the back are called "Jimping" it's for grip. Sortof.

Thank you for the info. I didn't know it's called that.

However, I don't think it's a filet knife either. Nor a boning knife. This because of the serrations i the front of the blade. They are small but they are there. I can't really see how the serrations would help you when you're filleting fish nor deboning a piece of meat. But i reckon your guess is as good as mine. Because I haven't got a clue :)

FryBoy
06-16-2011, 05:57 PM
I do believe it may be a tomato knife -- Google found these photos of such things:

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop-img/1207333249609.jpg

http://images.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/boker/images/BO5700a.jpg

But these two from Amazon are even uglier:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21KSTidCpEL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/216KSd4%2BD9L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

WildBoar
06-16-2011, 06:01 PM
That bottom one looks a lot like a cheese knife (although they usually do not have serrations)

Dragonaut
06-16-2011, 06:11 PM
My knife is only serrated the first 3 inches. Here's a picture of it.

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk287/dragonaut79/mobilen/attachment-D00BXV.jpg

bieniek
06-16-2011, 06:18 PM
But in quite good condition...:)
Isnt the maker Karlssen & Nilssen?
I have one small filleting knife and its so flexible, also the inox blades made of takes quite an edge.
Looks it better though

Dragonaut
06-16-2011, 06:28 PM
But in quite good condition...:)
Isnt the maker Karlssen & Nilssen?
I have one small filleting knife and its so flexible, also the inox blades made of takes quite an edge.
Looks it better though

No it's a maker named Pontus Holmberg from Eskilstuna. It's in stainless which means that it's probably made from 12C27. Most of the old Eskilstuna is made from 12C27 from sandvik. But Karlsson/Nilsson also came from Eskilstuna. So i would think that your knife also is made from 12C27.

kalaeb
06-17-2011, 08:33 PM
Don't be knocking the cheese knife....I actually use mine all the time. Dang fine tool!

But while we are on the topic of the ugliest knife; I was cruising the CKTG site and looked at his best seller list. Yup, one of the top sellers is the Ken Onion Chef knife.

steeley
06-18-2011, 11:42 PM
http://www.limepic.com/img/nestingknives1104040.jpg
Not that ugly but interesting.

Eamon Burke
06-19-2011, 02:48 AM
That's interesting. Looks like someone was trying to design the best way to get the most out of a sheet of steel, and wound up designing an art piece.

FryBoy
06-19-2011, 02:42 PM
http://www.limepic.com/img/nestingknives1104040.jpg
Not that ugly but interesting.
This graphic captures the concept a bit better, which is quite interesting:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/412koCCFElL._AA300_.jpg

Available from Amazon for a mere $786.92: Deglon Meeting Knife Set (http://www.amazon.com/Deglon-Meeting-Knife-Stainless-Knives/dp/B002JTWRDS)

Here's the description:

The Deglon Meeting Knife Set is practical, durable and a work of art. Designed by Mia Schmallenbach and produced by Deglon, it won first prize in the 5th European Cutlery Design Award. This lovely set is made of high quality stainless steel and seemingly appears to be created from a single block of stainless steel. Each knife nests within the set. To remove each knife, simply press down near the tip of the blade and life knife away by the handle. Set includes a 3-1/4-inch paring knife, 5-1/4-inch utility knife, 8-inch chef knife, 8-3/4-inch slicer and matching stainless steel block. Occasionally, use a steel to sharpen. Hand wash and dry, recommended. Made in France by Deglon. Deglon - handcrafter of quality cutlery since 1821. Limited lifetime warranty.

goodchef1
06-19-2011, 03:29 PM
France comes out with some very unique designs and profiles.

stereo.pete
06-20-2011, 10:55 AM
I can't imagine a pinch grip working very well with that knife.

FryBoy
06-20-2011, 12:25 PM
I can't imagine a pinch grip working very well with that knife.
You just have to choke up a mite.

Digs
06-20-2011, 10:16 PM
^^^
Those Ken Onions knives are so friggin' stupid-looking. They seem like they were all engineered by people who have never cut anything in a kitchen. Knives for Microwavers to put out on display :flush:

I've got one of these in 9" along with a couple of other Ken Onions.

They are extremely comfortable in my hand and for me, a pleasure to use.

Have any of you blokes who rubbish these ever used them?

FryBoy
06-20-2011, 10:49 PM
I had some. Sold them as a lot. One, an 8" slicer, was so incredibly silly in its design that it was nearly unusable. Never did figure out how to use it.

http://rdcollins.smugmug.com/Other/Kitchen-Knives-Cookbooks-etc/Shun-8-Inch-Slicing-1/1213881811_HjivE-X3.jpg

Eamon Burke
06-20-2011, 10:51 PM
I believe he was talking about how it looks, not how it uses. It looks like a knife designed to appeal to someone who has no appreciation for the job of a knife. It's like making a commuter car that is shaped like a chimpanzee.

bieniek
06-21-2011, 03:48 AM
They are extremely comfortable in my hand and for me, a pleasure to use.


Will propably stay this way until they get dull :D

Digs
06-21-2011, 05:36 AM
I had some. Sold them as a lot. One, an 8" slicer, was so incredibly silly in its design that it was nearly unusable. Never did figure out how to use it.


I would never blame a design or product of any kind because I purchased it for it's looks which seems to be the case here.


I believe he was talking about how it looks, not how it uses. It looks like a knife designed to appeal to someone who has no appreciation for the job of a knife. It's like making a commuter car that is shaped like a chimpanzee.

Yes you're right, it is about looks. Why anyone would spend reasonable money purchasing on looks is beyond me. To judge something by its looks whether good or bad is ridiculous and generally ill-informed.

Haven't you heard the old saying "Never judge a book by its cover?


Will propably stay this way until they get dull :D

You may enjoy using dull knives mate, I prefer to keep mine sharp.

I can't understand how people can be negative when they have no experience &/or don't have enough smarts to figure out how to use something.

Like I said I enjoy using Shuns especially the Ken Onions. The bread knife has been dropped onto concrete without incident a couple of times yet one of the forums favourite makers knives chips cutting a leak.


So I got my 205mm Carter funayuki this week. At first the light weight (119g) threw me off, but I must admit that the light weight has grown on me a bit since then. I also like the short size. Since having a newborn in the house and doing the stay-at-home Dad thing, I find myself reaching for smaller knives these days. I'm not sure why, but it happens.

The knife was blistering sharp out of the box and could easily slice a dropped piece of thin advertisement paper in its descent. (Note: I did not take my clothes off to do this as Salty did.)

The contrast between the laminate/cladding and core steel is cool. The toothy patina edge looks similar to my hiro but a bit better.

So back to the chip.

I am making some stock for a carrot and mint risotto, and to make the stock I am chopping up a leek. So I slice the end of the dark stuff off and hit stone. Chip.

It isn't a bad chip, but a chip nonetheless. The worst thing was that it kept grabbing the cloth when I wiped the blade down. So after only a handful of hours of use, I chipped my Father's day gift. Oh well.

Strange thing is that it didn't bother me in the least bit. I guess I am just going to have to use the chip as an excuse to buy another knife ;)

k.

mr drinky
06-21-2011, 09:13 AM
Hey Digs, don't take this stuff personally. I know people who like the Ken Onion feel too (though I don't care for it). And a lot more people (family, friends etc.) think I am crazy for liking wa handles.

And don't bring my chipped carter into this ;)

k.

Eamon Burke
06-21-2011, 12:40 PM
First off, Digs, Welcome to KKF! Funny to me how much Aussie and Northern European interest there is in kitchen knives.


Yes you're right, it is about looks. Why anyone would spend reasonable money purchasing on looks is beyond me. To judge something by its looks whether good or bad is ridiculous and generally ill-informed.

Haven't you heard the old saying "Never judge a book by its cover?

I believe you are slaving under the assumption that this thread is a list of knife purchasing tips. Going with your analogy, we are like librarians discussing funny-looking book covers, not books.
I mean, come on, there's a Haslinger in this thread.

FryBoy
06-21-2011, 01:20 PM
Digs: I didn't buy the Shuns for their looks -- I bought them because I had read good things about them and because I got extremely good deals on them (e.g., the 8" slicer cost me $100 new). But after using them for a short while, it became obvious that they were inferior to both my good J-knives and even my old Wusthofs when it came to performance. And trust me, I have enough "smarts" and experience to figure out how to use a knife -- and to know when it doesn't perform well. In the case of the 8" slicer, the odd curve of the blade makes it ineffective when it comes to the one thing it's supposed to be for, namely slicing meat. My 300mm Hattori KF Sujihiki and even my old 10" Wusthof slicer simply do it more easily with more consistent results.

BTW, have you ever used a good Japanese culinary knife, or are you defending Shuns and belittling those who don't care for them simply because that's what you've purchased?

oivind_dahle
06-21-2011, 02:38 PM
Here is a winner:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WHRRQM/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=ga10-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B004WHRRQM

Eamon Burke
06-21-2011, 03:28 PM
Here is a winner:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WHRRQM/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=ga10-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B004WHRRQM

:happy2::happy2:

SpikeC
06-21-2011, 04:15 PM
I love the product description-"perfect for gift giving"! Giving to who is my question!

Digs
06-21-2011, 05:09 PM
Hey Digs, don't take this stuff personally. I know people who like the Ken Onion feel too (though I don't care for it). And a lot more people (family, friends etc.) think I am crazy for liking wa handles.

And don't bring my chipped carter into this ;)

k.

Onya K, couldn't help myself mate, I thought it was funny, no offense meant.


First off, Digs, Welcome to KKF! Funny to me how much Aussie and Northern European interest there is in kitchen knives.



I believe you are slaving under the assumption that this thread is a list of knife purchasing tips. Going with your analogy, we are like librarians discussing funny-looking book covers, not books.
I mean, come on, there's a Haslinger in this thread.


Digs: I didn't buy the Shuns for their looks -- I bought them because I had read good things about them and because I got extremely good deals on them (e.g., the 8" slicer cost me $100 new). But after using them for a short while, it became obvious that they were inferior to both my good J-knives and even my old Wusthofs when it came to performance. And trust me, I have enough "smarts" and experience to figure out how to use a knife -- and to know when it doesn't perform well. In the case of the 8" slicer, the odd curve of the blade makes it ineffective when it comes to the one thing it's supposed to be for, namely slicing meat. My 300mm Hattori KF Sujihiki and even my old 10" Wusthof slicer simply do it more easily with more consistent results.

BTW, have you ever used a good Japanese culinary knife, or are you defending Shuns and belittling those who don't care for them simply because that's what you've purchased?

Thanks Eamon, been a long time reader under the cover of darkness. I think any commonly used item no matter what it is would have followings worldwide with knives being no exception. Point taken on the book covers.

After reading what I wrote it may have come across as smart ar#y although that wasn’t my intent. I hope I didn’t offend anyone.

I have another interest that I’m more passionate about and it’s a hobby I’m much more experienced with [45 yrs] and reasonably well informed about. It too, has “pretty” as well as “ugly” on the immediate visual front yet looks have very little if any bearing on performance, I don’t think knives as well as many other products are any different. Far too often we see the “that looks nice” scenario, “I’ll have to get one” or because I/you like or dislike doesn’t mean a product is neither good nor bad. Individual taste varies and we should respect others tastes, after all us ugly blokes and sheilas would never pop our cherries. ****, I’ve got a face my mother disliked but I reckon I’m not a bad sort of a bloke.

Further to that I learnt a long time ago not to buy any product on someone else’s say so or recommendation as what’s right for one isn’t necessarily right for another. Doug, you’ve also had firsthand experience at this.

There’s nothing wrong with good honest criticism from experienced people but when it’s those merely getting on a bandwagon with no experience [which so often happens] and criticizing I find that rather annoying which is why I asked who’d actually used these knives.

Doug, yes I have used “good Japanese knives” mate. My intent as already mentioned wasn’t to belittle anybody. I actually like shuns as they suit my hand and style and therefore defend them from my experience. On the other hand, those who bag them without having used them are merely talking s#it and have little if any credibility as far as I’m concerned.

On a lighter note you’re bloody lucky you only paid a 100 smackers for your slicer, the parer is AU$195 here with the 10” Chef’s knife coming in at AU$375 and AU$380 for the “ugly cleaver”

Have a nice day fellas.
Cheers, Johnny

bieniek
06-21-2011, 05:49 PM
I just written my stories with shuns,but I backspaced it, lets just say i never held one and there was no santokus with hills on edges, no flaked heels on chef knives, edge of new wasnt so brittle that it failed on salmon. No, I never noticed.
I never notice also the pricetag.
Do you really really think you cannot get better performing knife at lower price?Especially when looks aint important?

WildBoar
06-21-2011, 06:31 PM
I have a 10" Shun chef knife, although not an Onion. The edge has always been chippy. That said, I liked it more then the Wusthoff I had been using for years. But once I got my DT ITK 240 gyuto and Dave Martell-rehandled 240 Hiro gyuto I realized how much better a knife could perform, and how much better I like a flatter blade profile on a gyuto/ chef's knife.

JohnnyChance
06-22-2011, 02:27 AM
I have a Ken Onion Shun bread knife. I bought it because it had the big rounded teeth as opposed to the sharp spiky serrations, was fairly short, and had the offset handle. Also, I got a used one off ebay for around $60. It has been used a lot and has done well, but the edge is prone to chips. Meant to send it back to Shun to get resharpened, but they have cancelled their free sharpening for life program. Oh well. I have a Tojiro ITK bread knife as well, so that sees more use than the KO does now.

SpikeC
06-22-2011, 01:45 PM
I didn't know thaTt Shun had cancelled the free sharpening. I guess that says more than anything else could about the quality of their edges.

oivind_dahle
08-20-2011, 06:47 AM
http://www.bsione.com/STEVE/N11/N11%20305.JPG

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RANDALL-KNIFE-KNIVES-NEW-2011-NON-CATALOG-CHEFS-SPEC-/400224275434?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D2%26po%3D LVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D2191513088177726119#ht_458 8wt_872

ecchef
08-20-2011, 07:09 AM
Here is a winner:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WHRRQM/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=ga10-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B004WHRRQM

If I could find some self-adhesive toilet paper, I might have a use for this! :idea2:

ecchef
08-20-2011, 07:14 AM
Who the Hell designed that Randall:rofl2:

See any similarities?

http://msjacoby.com/toucansam.gif

Eamon Burke
08-20-2011, 10:20 AM
:rofl:
I've heard bogus ad copy, but I never thought I'd see a kitchen knife promoted for having a "heavy brass single hilt and wrist thong".

There may be a reason it's "non-catalog".

P.S. Oivind, I love your new avatar. It goes perfectly here.

tk59
08-20-2011, 11:18 AM
+1 It's always suspicious when you have pictures of the handle from every angle but only the faces of the blade.

jmforge
08-20-2011, 03:13 PM
Perhaps there is a reason that this is not only probably the first non-catalog Randall that I have seen selling for close to Randall MSRP , but one that has had the price dropped on EBay.
:rofl:
I've heard bogus ad copy, but I never thought I'd see a kitchen knife promoted for having a "heavy brass single hilt and wrist thong".

There may be a reason it's "non-catalog".

P.S. Oivind, I love your new avatar. It goes perfectly here.

ecchef
08-20-2011, 09:52 PM
Ummmm....serrated spine. :thumbsup:

That's gotta be super comfy.

kalaeb
08-21-2011, 02:28 AM
Ahh, its been awhile since I have been to this thread...good times. I still get a chuckle when I look through them all.:tooth:

jmforge
08-21-2011, 02:36 AM
The Lorena Bobbitt banana knife needs to be in this thread.

steeley
08-21-2011, 03:11 AM
Lorena's out buying hotdogs but here it is.http://www.limepic.com/img/img64mada.jpg

steeley
08-21-2011, 03:17 AM
This one for people who can't hold a knife in the regular way
nothing wrong about that http://www.limepic.com/img/s21pr359pi1slicingkn.jpg

jm2hill
08-21-2011, 03:19 AM
This one for people who can't hold a knife in the regular way
nothing wrong about that http://www.limepic.com/img/s21pr359pi1slicingkn.jpg

hahah my instant thought was the brass-knuckles of knives. would be killer in a fight.

jmforge
08-21-2011, 04:08 AM
Don't you guys always complain when you use a knife and your knuckles hit the cutting board? Problem solved!!!!:biggrin:
This one for people who can't hold a knife in the regular way
nothing wrong about that http://www.limepic.com/img/s21pr359pi1slicingkn.jpg

bieniek
08-24-2011, 04:27 PM
Mentioned knuckle protection? :D

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m310/carl00s/ez.jpg

steeley
08-24-2011, 07:19 PM
Only $249http://www.limepic.com/img/sabaknife249.jpg

Hattorichop
08-24-2011, 07:37 PM
Snoop Dog's Kitchen Knife
[IMG]http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff392/gkarlmc/images.jpg[/IMG
I can not figure out how someone could get their fingers in those finger holes

Hattorichop
08-24-2011, 07:43 PM
How about a photo with that!
http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff392/gkarlmc/images.jpg

bieniek
08-25-2011, 05:26 AM
Its for suicide

ecchef
08-25-2011, 08:21 AM
:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

ecchef
08-30-2011, 08:52 AM
Check this guy's stuff. A whole assortment of crap.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/moazam95/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

Eamon Burke
08-30-2011, 10:01 PM
Crap! How can he make any money selling those for 30 and 40 dollars?! I mean, it's incredibly weird stuff, but SOMEONE had to put it together/filework it/grind it, etc. I seriously can't believe the prices. Then a fairly plain, straightforward but large fixed blade knife is $450.

What the hell?

El Pescador
08-30-2011, 10:46 PM
I just got a Del Ealy Gyuto with his new grind, which cost me $430. While not perfect, it is one of the best cutters I have used. The amount of time and work it took Del to get to this point (6 knives, 2 1/2 months) is pretty incredible...and still Del will attest it could be perfected even more. If it costs $40-70 dollars an inch (Del,Carter,Devin Thomas) to buy the best tool for my job, then it is what it is. Unfortunately, I had to learn this lesson the hard way.

Eamon Burke
08-30-2011, 11:05 PM
Did you see the link? That guy's not exactly Del Ealy...

El Pescador
08-30-2011, 11:20 PM
Sorry I didn't realized you were being sarcastic! My bad. It's hard enough defending my knife buys to friends and family! Again, my bad...

jmforge
08-30-2011, 11:27 PM
Pakistani slave labor, Mein Herr.:biggrin:
Crap! How can he make any money selling those for 30 and 40 dollars?! I mean, it's incredibly weird stuff, but SOMEONE had to put it together/filework it/grind it, etc. I seriously can't believe the prices. Then a fairly plain, straightforward but large fixed blade knife is $450.

What the hell?

Twistington
09-02-2011, 03:31 PM
For some strange reason... i want them. :dazed:

http://www.mehr-als-werkzeug.de/medias/sys_master/719146_01_P_WE_8.jpg


http://www.mehr-als-werkzeug.de/medias/sys_master/719104_01_P_WE_8.jpg

oivind_dahle
09-02-2011, 03:45 PM
ups

Eamon Burke
09-02-2011, 05:43 PM
For some strange reason... i want them. :dazed:


I love your signature!

Those are always on the Korin line...so absurd, but probably hell to actually make. What a strange product.

Twistington
09-03-2011, 07:13 AM
I love your signature!

Those are always on the Korin line...so absurd, but probably hell to actually make. What a strange product.

Yeah that line is stolen/quoted from an episode "Henry's Kitchen" (http://www.youtube.com/user/henlips) that someone posted here some time ago. :D

Let's just hope the blowfish knife comes in a 240mm+ version. ;)

ecchef
09-03-2011, 08:54 AM
They're very cool for teaching young kids about cooking. Makes it fun for them.

Timthebeaver
09-13-2011, 07:32 AM
http://www.kochmesser-shop.com/tim-raue/tim-raue-tr-03-fleischmesser-175-cm::307.html

ecchef
09-13-2011, 08:32 AM
Nice one. Did that used to be the bottom part of a seahorse?

memorael
09-22-2011, 01:50 AM
Found a new one! This guy is a full on knife maker(he even says he differentially heat treats stainless), but this knife is BUTT UGLY if I've ever seen one.
http://www.haslinger-knives.com/images/evolution-redwood.jpg
:puke::puke:

You know... I kinda like this one... reminds me of something I would definitely grab for killing zombie veg.

Amon-Rukh
09-26-2011, 03:55 PM
I was giggling at this thread the other night and my fiancee came over to see what was so funny. She got all excited and immediately told me that she'd seen a knife in Germany this summer that had to be added to the thread. After a bit of searching, here it is: das Pizzamesser (http://www.pizzamesser.de/188,0,die-pizzamesser-,index,0.html).

Eamon Burke
09-26-2011, 07:32 PM
That's awesome. The prices on those are outrageous.

Dragonaut
09-26-2011, 07:43 PM
I think that the premium version of that knife is some sort of damascus cladding. However, the thing that bothers me the most with those things is: Who the h*ll puts broccoli on a pizza? :D

SpikeC
09-26-2011, 07:44 PM
And they come in "damascus"!

ecchef
09-27-2011, 08:36 AM
Here's a $700 piece of sh*t...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Strider-Custom-Combat-Kitchen-Knife-/260858929544?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item3cbc676188

Even comes with authentic "Mom's crud"! :puke:

Vertigo
09-27-2011, 11:53 AM
Here's a $700 piece of sh*t...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Strider-Custom-Combat-Kitchen-Knife-/260858929544?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item3cbc676188

Even comes with authentic "Mom's crud"! :puke:
$700?! What the f*ck!? Unless that thing gets hand delivered by his mother with a few grams of yay and a happy ending, I think I'll pass...!

mr drinky
09-27-2011, 11:56 AM
$700?! What the f*ck!? Unless that thing gets hand delivered by his mother with a few grams of yay and a happy ending, I think I'll pass...!

A happy ending from his mom?? It's hard to put a value on that ;)

k.

ecchef
10-08-2011, 03:49 AM
Sick bastards! :lol2:

ecchef
10-08-2011, 03:54 AM
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Justin0505
10-12-2011, 01:47 AM
Old auction gone, here's the new one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Strider-Custom-Combat-Kitchen-Knife-/260869504264?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUA%26o tn%3D5%26pmod%3D260865045530%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3 415862043246061654#ht_500wt_1413

Yep, pretty ugly and probably as thick as a deba. The price is because it's made by the Strider Knives guy (who's "tactical" knives are very well regarded and sell for $300 and up). This is another example of a maker that understands very well how to make an "other" type of knife (hunting, camp, "tactical") being clueless when it comes to the kitchen.

Marko Tsourkan
10-12-2011, 02:05 AM
...This is another example of a maker that understands very well how to make an "other" type of knife (hunting, camp, "tactical") being clueless when it comes to the kitchen.

I was told it is much harder to grind a kitchen knife than a hunting knife.

NO ChoP!
10-13-2011, 01:39 AM
Yay? LOL... If Tony Montana had a kitchen knife, it would have a grenade launcher attached....

mr drinky
10-13-2011, 06:36 AM
I was told it is much harder to grind a kitchen knife than a hunting knife.

But how hard is it really to grind a bad kitchen knife? ;)

k.

Darkhoek
10-13-2011, 08:40 AM
But how hard is it really to grind a bad kitchen knife? ;)

k.

Well my guess in this case is that it must be about as hard to grind a bad kitchen knife as it is to grind a good hunting knife.:scratchhead:

DarkhoEk

Darkhoek
10-13-2011, 08:42 AM
Only $249http://www.limepic.com/img/sabaknife249.jpg

Haha! Ice skate recycling. :D

DarKHOeK

Justin0505
10-14-2011, 07:01 PM
I was told it is much harder to grind a kitchen knife than a hunting knife.

Fowler or Rader could probably speak to that. My guess is that the grind work on any really high grade knife is pretty f-ing difficult. Ive seen hunters and fighters with really dramatic compound grind & beautiful transitions, but i think that kitchen knives require a different kind of control and finesse because subtle little details make a huge difference and the margin/ chance of recovery from error is vanishing small.
Fowler and Rader didn't underestimate the learning curve or challenge, but i think most other makers (like Dwane from the above post) look at the kitchen knife market, see compairitivly simple LOOKING knifes and think "easy money".
Then, they fail like this:
http://images.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/bnchmd/images/4501n.jpg
-$500 for some 440c anyone? No? Come on! Its premium!



Or this:
http://www.chrisreeve.com/sikayo%206.jpg
-Dave: i think that you should consider adding "lightning bolt" to your list of handle shapes and and"orange burled plastic" to your material options.

Marko Tsourkan
10-26-2011, 07:55 PM
I don't know what to make out of these knives. The skill is obviously there, but the design... could use some help.

http://rareculture.net/images/thumbnails/0/609/427/Ultimate_Kitchen_Knife_RESIZED.jpg

http://rareculture.net/images/thumbnails/0/609/427/cheese.jpg

http://rareculture.net/images/thumbnails/0/609/427/Arabian_cheese_knife_resized_copy.jpg

http://rareculture.net/images/thumbnails/0/609/427/Damascus_Mammoth_Tusk.jpg

http://rareculture.net/images/thumbnails/0/609/427/Apex_Knife_with_Desert_Ironwood_Giraffe_Bone.jpg

http://www.johnmanikowski.com/woolly%20mammoth%20knife.jpg

http://www.johnmanikowski.com/A%20Whale%20of%20a%20Tale%20sm.jpg

kalaeb
10-26-2011, 08:10 PM
Nice, I love expensive letter openers.

maddog
10-26-2011, 10:07 PM
"beauty is in the eye of the beholder" or something like that
"one man's trash is another man's treasure" comes to mind also

Vertigo
10-26-2011, 10:31 PM
"one man's trash is another man's treasure" comes to mind also

I think the quote is: "One man's garbage is another man person's good un-garbage."

Dave Martell
10-26-2011, 10:38 PM
More what not to do for kitchen knives pictures. :D

Yeah the maker(s) has mad skill but is way off on his usage reality.

Eamon Burke
10-26-2011, 10:41 PM
"beauty is in the eye of the beholder" or something like that
"one man's trash is another man's treasure" comes to mind also

Without knowledge of an existent beauty, how could we claim that any knife is the ugliest ever? The basic implications of the phrase "ugliest ever" implies an entire value analysis ethos. This its merely a friendly game where we apply said system without stopping to compare critetia. Why?
CAUSE THIS IS MY FAVORITE THREAD.

come on, IT LOOKS LIKE A WHALE

SpikeC
10-27-2011, 12:04 AM
A whale opener?

maddog
10-27-2011, 08:12 AM
ok this one gets a mention from me
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww140/jefffann/KGrHqIOKjE3tvO6VrBN-tBWe82g0_1.jpg

SpikeC
10-27-2011, 04:58 PM
What is it for?

Eamon Burke
10-27-2011, 05:05 PM
ok this one gets a mention from me
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww140/jefffann/KGrHqIOKjE3tvO6VrBN-tBWe82g0_1.jpg

That's the spirit!

The thing I like the least about it: The metal handle. HATE THOSE.

maddog
10-28-2011, 08:51 AM
not a fan of those either.

maddog
10-28-2011, 09:15 AM
these handles aren't for me either
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww140/jefffann/KGrHqYOKpME6dZ6LJBOqf4ku7yw60_12.jpg

maddog
10-28-2011, 09:28 AM
This looks like a sickle wanabe
I'm glad they labeled it cause I'd of never guessed..:D
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww140/jefffann/CfUciw2kKGrHqYOKpgEyjCzWGqBNDM6bv7o_3.jpg

StephanFowler
11-03-2011, 02:50 PM
But how hard is it really to grind a bad kitchen knife? ;)

k.


The bad one's are EASY, I could knock one out in 10 minutes easily

I'm still learning how to grind a good one but it takes me around 2 hours to really set the profile on a knife and get all of the geometry where I want it. then 3-4 hours to get it polished

Stephan

jaybett
11-22-2011, 05:42 AM
The cook everybody loves to hate (Guy Fieri), knives are on sale over at the Food Network. They have interesting names for the sets, including: Midnight Series, Battle Set or my favorite the Big Baller Cutlery Set. How would you like to be showing off those knives to friends and family, this holiday season? Hey Grandma check out my Big Baller knives!

Jay

Amon-Rukh
12-03-2011, 03:56 PM
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x103/eavarela/furi.jpg
Another stellar cutting instrument courtesy of Furi!

kalaeb
12-03-2011, 04:42 PM
Ahh Furi, never ceases to amaze me with stellar cutlery. :beatinghead:

Eamon Burke
12-03-2011, 05:41 PM
Why is the spine like that? Is it a bottle opener, or what?

GlassEye
12-03-2011, 05:44 PM
Why is the spine like that? Is it a bottle opener, or what?

That's what I thought upon first seeing it. I couldn't find this knife on the Furi website. What is it supposed to be?

WildBoar
12-03-2011, 05:45 PM
I love the bolster -- must make it real easy to use the heel of the knife :rofl2:

SpikeC
12-03-2011, 07:22 PM
Why is the spine like that? Is it a bottle opener, or what?

That is where your index finger is supposed to go.

jmforge
12-03-2011, 09:37 PM
High speed, low drag, BITCHES!!!!!!:nunchucks::D
Old auction gone, here's the new one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Strider-Custom-Combat-Kitchen-Knife-/260869504264?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUA%26o tn%3D5%26pmod%3D260865045530%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3 415862043246061654#ht_500wt_1413

Yep, pretty ugly and probably as thick as a deba. The price is because it's made by the Strider Knives guy (who's "tactical" knives are very well regarded and sell for $300 and up). This is another example of a maker that understands very well how to make an "other" type of knife (hunting, camp, "tactical") being clueless when it comes to the kitchen.

Shepherd
12-03-2011, 10:33 PM
This looks like a sickle wanabe
I'm glad they labeled it cause I'd of never guessed..:D
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww140/jefffann/CfUciw2kKGrHqYOKpgEyjCzWGqBNDM6bv7o_3.jpg

KARAMBIT !!! :laugh:

jmforge
12-05-2011, 12:32 PM
Rambo hollow handled survival karambit at that!!!
KARAMBIT !!! :laugh:

Timthebeaver
12-07-2011, 06:52 AM
The BS level is OVER 9000!.....

Shun Edo’s reputation for superior power and control is reflected in the extraordinary appearance of their cutlery. The VG-10 steel blade’s eye-catching hammered pattern reduces drag and helps food release easily, and the handle’s tear-drop shape and broad bolster facilitate a variety of cutting techniques.

The innovative combination of low-frequency and high-frequency serrations serve to improve performance.

Low-frequency to help minimize resistance between blade and cutting board.

High-Frequency to reduce tearing when cutting soft-skinned foods (like tomatoes) or slicing through hard crusts.

http://ab.wsimgs.com/wsimgs/ab/images/dp/wcm/201135/0115/img30o.jpg

Andrew H
12-07-2011, 01:26 PM
The BS level is OVER 9000!.....

Shun Edo’s reputation for superior power and control is reflected in the extraordinary appearance of their cutlery. The VG-10 steel blade’s eye-catching hammered pattern reduces drag and helps food release easily, and the handle’s tear-drop shape and broad bolster facilitate a variety of cutting techniques.

The innovative combination of low-frequency and high-frequency serrations serve to improve performance.

Low-frequency to help minimize resistance between blade and cutting board.

High-Frequency to reduce tearing when cutting soft-skinned foods (like tomatoes) or slicing through hard crusts.

http://ab.wsimgs.com/wsimgs/ab/images/dp/wcm/201135/0115/img30o.jpg

And it is yours for only $199.99! http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/shun-edo-dual-density-8-inch-utility-knife-stand/?pkey=cknives-shun

jmforge
12-07-2011, 06:55 PM
I saw one of these at Williams-Sonoma. It us just as ugly in person, if not more so and not cheap.
The BS level is OVER 9000!.....

Shun Edo’s reputation for superior power and control is reflected in the extraordinary appearance of their cutlery. The VG-10 steel blade’s eye-catching hammered pattern reduces drag and helps food release easily, and the handle’s tear-drop shape and broad bolster facilitate a variety of cutting techniques.

The innovative combination of low-frequency and high-frequency serrations serve to improve performance.

Low-frequency to help minimize resistance between blade and cutting board.

High-Frequency to reduce tearing when cutting soft-skinned foods (like tomatoes) or slicing through hard crusts.

http://ab.wsimgs.com/wsimgs/ab/images/dp/wcm/201135/0115/img30o.jpg

Dave Martell
12-07-2011, 10:11 PM
Argh....my eyes!!

G-rat
12-07-2011, 10:19 PM
Talk about wavy edges! It looks like the edge isn't straight down the line but bends back and forth...I would love to see someone use this thing I guess it is just supposed to be serrated twice? Or like a long scalloped edge plus tight serrations...what a disaster. There is this whole market now for very expensive serrated knives from Shun. Wonder Why? I mean I can guess but seriously what a piece of crap. It will always cut the same crappy way.

Also says they want to reduce tearing? Seriously? That is all this thing does is tear stuff!

SpikeC
12-07-2011, 10:26 PM
That one should be fun to sharpen, boy-howdy!

jmforge
12-08-2011, 02:43 AM
Spike, don't you know that you NEVER have to sharpen those serrated knives? You can chop soda cans and radiator hose and still julienne fries like a pro!!!!:doublethumbsup:
That one should be fun to sharpen, boy-howdy!

kalaeb
12-08-2011, 11:36 AM
But it comes with a stand! That's like a twofer.





(Actually, I kind of like the stand, but the knife is aweful)

jmforge
12-08-2011, 01:41 PM
Well, for $199, you could buy the package, keep the stand and foist the knife on some irritating relative as a Christmas present, right?:D
But it comes with a stand! That's like a twofer.





(Actually, I kind of like the stand, but the knife is aweful)

SpikeC
12-08-2011, 02:25 PM
Or just grind the edge straight. Butt then you would have to do something about that horrible bolster..........

Christo711
01-16-2012, 11:10 AM
http://www.artemar.es/tienda/images/daggerdaga4128l.jpg

Christo711
01-16-2012, 11:12 AM
hahaha -- that lil bastard was scary in the movie The Shadow - what ever happened to awesome / so bad its good movies like that ?

Bryan G.
01-17-2012, 12:22 AM
I am going to go to Williams and Sanoma and ask to test it out. I should tell them I read the description and what to compare it to one of my gyutos because I am so intrigued by the claims. I am all about scientific method. Maybe they'd let me do a cooking demo? I should inquire, what do you guys thinK? I'm ok with making claims if they are proven!

ecchef
01-17-2012, 01:09 AM
Whoever designed that should be hacked to death with it.

Bryan G.
01-17-2012, 02:13 AM
But did you read the description, it is designed for smooth cutting with "minimal tearing" ... so according to findings it might be hard to hack someone with it, slice maybe. I'm just saying.

ejd53
01-19-2012, 12:23 PM
I was intrigued by the claim that it "minimized resistance between the blade and cutting board". I consider this a good thing as I really hate to push hard while sawing through my board:groucho:

VoodooMajik
02-24-2012, 09:46 PM
That Bread knife is brutal. I don't get it. I don't mind the shun utility knife, but the rest of them are pretty horrible. Kindah hard to see the skill wasted.

Justin0505
03-14-2012, 04:08 AM
Remember those knives that looked like they where made with pipe handles covered in bright colored plastic? Well, in this case, looks aren't deceiving:

http://youtu.be/O_QRfIhwsZA

The "8" Chefs (Thin)" is only $315
http://mksdesign.com/shoppingcart.html
But, sadly it's back ordered. Maybe they'll do a re-handle on my Marko Shige w/ crappy, wood handle.

Crothcipt
03-14-2012, 04:48 AM
Ya I seen his website about sept. and was really not impressed with what he had.

ecchef
03-14-2012, 05:04 AM
It's stuff like this that makes me want to become a hermit.

knyfeknerd
03-14-2012, 07:50 AM
Maybe they'll do a re-handle on my Marko Shige w/ crappy, wood handle.
I'm just going to slip one of the handlebar grips off of my mountain bike and onto my wa-gyuto.

Dave Martell
03-15-2012, 12:25 AM
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ANTIQUE-KIDS-BIKE-BICYCLE-RED-GRIPS-3-SPEED-CCM-NOS-/00/$(KGrHqZ,!hwE2I9fbF+vBNlhmnvMVg~~_3.JPG

Iceman91
03-15-2012, 01:12 AM
We need to do a passaround with one of those bike grip knives

Johnny.B.Good
03-15-2012, 01:18 AM
We need to do a passaround with one of those bike grip knives

An 8" santoku can be yours for the low low price of $315 (if are prepared to wait 4-6 weeks for it).

Bishopmaker
03-15-2012, 02:59 AM
Im thinking more of this for the handles

http://images.landofnod.com/is/image/LandOfNod/Bike_HandleBar_Streamers?$zm$

Crothcipt
03-15-2012, 03:06 AM
How much time is spent on making the handle? I mean really do you make a casting of the clients hand to make the knife?

Justin0505
03-15-2012, 04:49 AM
How much time is spent on making the handle? I mean really do you make a casting of the clients hand to make the knife?

he said in the video that it really is just an off the shelf handlebar grip. No casting involved. I think that rainbow streamers would be a big hit with some of his clientele.

Dave, did you take that photo of some new handle options for the up-coming Martell nakiri?

jmforge
03-15-2012, 04:53 AM
Yeah, the handlebar grip is silly, but that is far from being the ugliest expensive kitchen knife.

Crothcipt
03-15-2012, 05:07 AM
I was meaning those knifes to be considered that price you would go through all that work. How many custom knives have I seen go through this website that have more workmanship than a handle off the shelf, for less even.

EdipisReks
03-15-2012, 10:30 AM
i honestly think the idea of using a bicycle handle is kind of clever, other than the it probably being very unwieldy. and i'm assuming that, for those costs, the knives are shipped with a small gold bar, right?

Sarge
03-15-2012, 06:27 PM
I find myself oddly intrigued and wanting to try a handle bar grip on my knife. Heaven help me

Pensacola Tiger
03-15-2012, 06:40 PM
I find myself oddly intrigued and wanting to try a handle bar grip on my knife. Heaven help me

I gave them away after my mother passed, but she loved this set of a peeler and parer by Oxo. They were actually quite comfortable, especially if you had arthritic hands.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31CW6RS807L.jpg

Rick

DeepCSweede
03-15-2012, 07:25 PM
I gave them away after my mother passed, but she loved this set of a peeler and parer by Oxo. They were actually quite comfortable, especially if you had arthritic hands.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31CW6RS807L.jpg

Rick

My wife still uses her Oxo, although I did catch her using my Z Kramer paring knife the other day and she played like - oh was that your knife? I don't care if she uses it, but she tends to use a knife and let it sit on the counter for a few hours before it gets cleaned.

SpikeC
03-15-2012, 07:37 PM
I use one of those peelers and quite like it!

jmforge
03-15-2012, 10:47 PM
i honestly think the idea of using a bicycle handle is kind of clever, other than the it probably being very unwieldy. and i'm assuming that, for those costs, the knives are shipped with a small gold bar, right?Or possibly like my younger brother once suggested when he said that you could get $400 for a $5 Wal Mart knife if you included a free ounce of high grade weed with every purchase. Lol

Dave Martell
03-16-2012, 05:29 PM
Dave, did you take that photo of some new handle options for the up-coming Martell nakiri?


Yup, we've got all colors available and we're thinking of going with the streamers too! :D

Taz575
03-18-2012, 12:47 AM
How bout a bell on the knife handle, too? Rings every time you make a cut!

Dave Martell
03-18-2012, 12:49 AM
How bout a bell on the knife handle, too? Rings every time you make a cut!


:lol2:

Eamon Burke
03-18-2012, 03:03 PM
OO that way when you are walking around at work with your knife and need to let people know you are behind them, "DING DING!"

JKerr
04-04-2012, 07:37 AM
A few belters found while tolling rakuten:
First up, a strangely phallic knife:
http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_gold/chuboya/200504/20050404-y001.gif

And 2nd, some master piece from Henkles:

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/chubonoie/cabinet/shohin18/100026981.jpg?_ex=240x240

Enjoy!

Cheers,
Josh

stevenStefano
04-04-2012, 07:49 AM
OO that way when you are walking around at work with your knife and need to let people know you are behind them, "DING DING!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_MphtzCOEc

Dave Martell
04-04-2012, 11:58 AM
A few belters found while tolling rakuten:
First up, a strangely phallic knife:
http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_gold/chuboya/200504/20050404-y001.gif

And 2nd, some master piece from Henkles:

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/chubonoie/cabinet/shohin18/100026981.jpg?_ex=240x240

Enjoy!

Cheers,
Josh


Damn - those define ugly.....especially the phallic one.

EdipisReks
04-04-2012, 02:37 PM
is the Henkels supposed to a box cutter, or something?

bieniek
04-04-2012, 05:33 PM
A few belters found while tolling rakuten:
First up, a strangely phallic knife:
http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_gold/chuboya/200504/20050404-y001.gif

And 2nd, some master piece from Henkles:

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/chubonoie/cabinet/shohin18/100026981.jpg?_ex=240x240

Enjoy!

Cheers,
Josh

This first one looks like penis with a blade in front of it...

Deckhand
04-04-2012, 07:14 PM
That knife reminds me of Anthony Perkins in crimes of passion. A very odd movie.

cwrightthruya
04-06-2012, 06:22 PM
A few belters found while tolling rakuten:
First up, a strangely phallic knife:
http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_gold/chuboya/200504/20050404-y001.gif

And 2nd, some master piece from Henkles:

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/chubonoie/cabinet/shohin18/100026981.jpg?_ex=240x240

Enjoy!

Cheers,
Josh

I think I saw one of those at a back alley store in bangkok :scratchhead:....oh wait

...wrong forum:slaphead:

mpukas
05-07-2012, 02:03 PM
All you RR fans, get 'em while they're hot!!! hot!!! hot!!!, just like RR!!! :no::no::no::no:

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r141/mpukas/25407.jpg

http://www.cutleryandmore.com/furi-rachael-ray/gusto-grip-forged-rocker-knife-p125407?src=dtw50_furirocker

SameGuy
05-07-2012, 02:25 PM
Not really flat enough to be a cheap and cheery udon cutter, eh?