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Grae95
05-11-2012, 12:55 PM
So just wondering if anyone els has bought this knife? How you like it, if it is reliable and won't break? Anyone I'm dieing to find out! :dazed:
I'm getting it from japanesechefknives.com. This isthe knife.( scroll down to the gyuto)
http://www.japanesechefsknife.com/FurinkazanW1Series.html

Eamon Burke
05-11-2012, 01:07 PM
:ntmy:
Welcome to KKF!

I do not own that particular knife, but I am wondering what you mean by "reliable and won't break?" You mean, like snap in half? Get dull? Run off with an Ex-girlfriend without paying the rent?

Grae95
05-11-2012, 01:14 PM
:ntmy:
Welcome to KKF!

I do not own that particular knife, but I am wondering what you mean by "reliable and won't break?" You mean, like snap in half? Get dull? Run off with an Ex-girlfriend without paying the rent?

xD! I'd have to kill her! No but I mean, is it full tang and the tang won't come out of the handle, or if it stays sharp, how sharp and for how long? Stuff like that. :P And thank you for the welcome!^^

G-rat
05-11-2012, 01:17 PM
I don't own one but because I have been interested in these knives too I have been keeping watch on this link:

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/showthread.php/5485-Fu-Rin-Ka-Zan-of-JCK

might help you out a bit.

Eamon Burke
05-11-2012, 02:17 PM
xD! I'd have to kill her! No but I mean, is it full tang and the tang won't come out of the handle, or if it stays sharp, how sharp and for how long? Stuff like that. :P And thank you for the welcome!^^

I see. I made a video that might clear some things up for you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh-jJAzfo0I).

That said, I don't know how these in particular were heat treated, that's why few around here are willing to speak on their quality, and why so many have held off on buying one--a lack of respected testimonials. But unless you have experience with higher end cutlery, I doubt it will disappoint you. Unless you are used to Japanese cutlery, you may also find it more reactive and brittle than you are used to.

kalaeb
05-11-2012, 02:28 PM
xD! I'd have to kill her! No but I mean, is it full tang and the tang won't come out of the handle, or if it stays sharp, how sharp and for how long? Stuff like that. :P And thank you for the welcome!^^

It is a stick tang knife, the handle won't come off. It is a white steel, which gets very sharp, but will not stay sharp forever, if you are new to Japanese cutlery you will need to get some whet stones to work with to keep it in optimal performance. The white steel is clad with stainless, so corrosion issues will not be as much of a problem as they would with a full carbon knife, but you do need to exercise more care diligence than you would a Chicago Cutlery...

The knives are not consistant, some reports have excellent fit and finish, others not so much. There are now two options to purchase a thick and a thin. I bought mine when it was only the thin version and it cut well, but was "chippy", and needed to reduce the bevel angle and added a micro bevel to correct the issue. Reports that I have heard suggest the thicker versions do not cut well at all.

The knife that I had was severly lacking in the fit and finish department, including sharp spine, choil and some delamination issues. I was able to correct all the issues, in a night with some wet/dry sand paper, but is something you should be aware of.

In short, the knife takes some work to get it primed, if you don't want to put forth the work in a mid $200.00, I would not buy it.

Flee
05-11-2012, 03:30 PM
I have owned the thin 240mm gyuto in this range for just over a month.
Apart from the need to round the spine and choil and sharpen up how I wanted it I haven;'t had any problems with the fit and finish of this knife.
It gets screaming sharp very easily but isn't the best knife I have for the edge lasting. Not too much of a problem for me as I am only a home cook and enjoy sharpening.

Grae95
05-11-2012, 06:35 PM
It is a stick tang knife, the handle won't come off. It is a white steel, which gets very sharp, but will not stay sharp forever, if you are new to Japanese cutlery you will need to get some whet stones to work with to keep it in optimal performance. The white steel is clad with stainless, so corrosion issues will not be as much of a problem as they would with a full carbon knife, but you do need to exercise more care diligence than you would a Chicago Cutlery...

The knives are not consistant, some reports have excellent fit and finish, others not so much. There are now two options to purchase a thick and a thin. I bought mine when it was only the thin version and it cut well, but was "chippy", and needed to reduce the bevel angle and added a micro bevel to correct the issue. Reports that I have heard suggest the thicker versions do not cut well at all.

The knife that I had was severly lacking in the fit and finish department, including sharp spine, choil and some delamination issues. I was able to correct all the issues, in a night with some wet/dry sand paper, but is something you should be aware of.

In short, the knife takes some work to get it primed, if you don't want to put forth the work in a mid $200.00, I would not buy it.

Any knives you would recommend that are similar?

mhlee
05-11-2012, 07:14 PM
Any knives you would recommend that are similar?

I'll start with some of the usual questions.

Are you a chef or home cook?
Do you know how to sharpen?
Have you taken care of a carbon steel blade before?
Western of Japanese handled knife?

Grae95
05-11-2012, 10:00 PM
I'll start with some of the usual questions.

Are you a chef or home cook?
Do you know how to sharpen?
Have you taken care of a carbon steel blade before?
Western of Japanese handled knife?

I work in a professional kitchen
I know how to sharpen with steels
Yes
Japanese

VoodooMajik
05-12-2012, 04:11 PM
I know how to sharpen with steels


I'm likely one of the less experienced and OCD people here. But steels do not sharpen. It's worth spending the money on stones. I still need a couple more stones but even basic ones will make a big difference.

slowtyper
05-12-2012, 11:45 PM
Ya give away the steel

VoodooMajik
05-13-2012, 12:06 PM
Ya give away the steel

+1 Ceramic is where its at for helping extend the life of an edge between sharpenings.

Flee
05-13-2012, 02:37 PM
I found the best thing for extending the life of the edge on this knife was my diamond loaded felt strop.