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Marko Tsourkan
05-12-2012, 02:13 PM
Hey Folks,
I would like to get an insight into what stock knives people would be interested in, so when I make some, I can factor at least some of your preferences in.

So, if it is not too much work, may I ask you to fill out a form (using a link below)? This will also add you to a list (unless requested otherwise) to be notified when stock knives are available. Your personal information (name and email) will stay confidential.

Thank you.

Marko

http://www.tsourkanknives.com/index.php/kitchen-knives/stock-knives-inquiry

Crothcipt
05-12-2012, 02:20 PM
filled one out. gl with filling your stock.

Johnny.B.Good
05-12-2012, 02:22 PM
Would you like those of us ordering customs from you to fill out the inquiry form as well?

I am ordering exactly what I want from you but will fill out the form if it's helpful...

Marko Tsourkan
05-12-2012, 02:27 PM
I just want to take a look at data for trends, so anybody is welcome to chime in.

Thanks!

Candlejack
05-12-2012, 02:42 PM
Filled out too, can't wait for your stocks.

Andrew H
05-12-2012, 02:46 PM
Filled one out.

VoodooMajik
05-12-2012, 02:54 PM
Filled one out as well

obtuse
05-12-2012, 03:04 PM
Filled one out too

markenki
05-12-2012, 03:08 PM
May we fill it out more than once?

Marko Tsourkan
05-12-2012, 03:15 PM
May we fill it out more than once?

Yes, absolutely.

Let me clarify that this survey is for reference purpose - I might not be able to match your preferences 100%, but I will do my best.

To be more specific, I am curious about your preferences for different woods, knife types and lengths, steels, etc, and I am getting that.

Thanks again to everybody who chimed in.

M

Marko Tsourkan
05-12-2012, 04:23 PM
Hi Folks,
I am still tweaking settings on this form, so if you got Thank you for Your Order response, please disregard.

You should be getting this message:
Thank you for your submission - this will help me to have a better idea what knives to make.

I will notify you when the stock knives are available for sale.

A. M. Tsourkan
M

kalaeb
05-12-2012, 04:38 PM
FYI, just filled it out and got a thankyou for your order email.

99Limited
05-12-2012, 04:43 PM
Hi Folks,
I am still tweaking settings on this form, so if you got Thank you for Your Order response, please disregard.


That was good to hear. Not that I don't want one, it would just have to be free at the current moment. :(

mhlee
05-12-2012, 05:19 PM
Thanks, Marko. I submitted the form as well.

Marko Tsourkan
05-12-2012, 05:20 PM
That was good to hear. Not that I don't want one, it would just have to be free at the current moment. :(

I still have your $50 deposit for the board, btw, so it would be that much less.

:)

M

PS: corrected the confirmation of a survey message. Too many damn settings.

Cipcich
05-12-2012, 06:19 PM
Feel free to regard my "input" as a knife order.

Perhaps you should start a pre-paid knife of the season club, or at least a semi-annual knife club, wherein people sign up to receive a different knife periodically. Only half joking here.

Marko Tsourkan
05-12-2012, 08:15 PM
Feel free to regard my "input" as a knife order.

Perhaps you should start a pre-paid knife of the season club, or at least a semi-annual knife club, wherein people sign up to receive a different knife periodically. Only half joking here.

You got me thinking, Steve... If only I had 8 arms like some Hindu deities...

I again thank everybody who chimed in.

M

Crothcipt
05-12-2012, 08:31 PM
:clown:Ha there needs to be a smiley looking like that.

The Edge
05-12-2012, 08:35 PM
Just submitted. Can't wait to see the stock knives that do become available!

Crothcipt
05-12-2012, 08:44 PM
I wouldn't mind hearing what us knut's have submitted, as a general #. would be a interesting to see the demographic (not scientific).

Marko Tsourkan
05-12-2012, 08:53 PM
I wouldn't mind hearing what us knut's have submitted, as a general #. would be a interesting to see the demographic (not scientific).

I would need to study it a little more, but general trend seems to be toward carbon steel, large (over 9") size knives.

M

Crothcipt
05-12-2012, 08:58 PM
lol another demographic would be after they see how much the cost is, and would it change to a petty or small gyuto?

Mingooch
05-12-2012, 11:08 PM
filled one out as well.

MadMel
05-12-2012, 11:15 PM
Filled out!! Looking forward to owning one of your knives.. When finances allow...

don
05-13-2012, 12:59 AM
Submitted as well.

Jim
05-13-2012, 01:26 AM
Submitted as well!

Dieter01
05-13-2012, 03:24 AM
Submitted enquiry.

In the dropdown list for handle ferrules there are 3 lines that can be selected. The middle option is blank.

ecchef
05-13-2012, 06:31 AM
Submitted enquiry.

In the dropdown list for handle ferrules there are 3 lines that can be selected. The middle option is blank.

I am guessing that is the space for cow horn?

99Limited
05-13-2012, 08:05 AM
I still have your $50 deposit for the board, btw, so it would be that much less.

:)

M


As for the board, I passed that project on to David, which is why I'm currently penniless. I'm still looking forward to your 180mm gyuto.

DeepCSweede
05-13-2012, 08:42 AM
Done - now its time to find some funds

mr drinky
05-13-2012, 08:44 AM
Are you going to let us know the results or is this something "for your eyes only"?

k.

Marko Tsourkan
05-13-2012, 09:32 AM
Are you going to let us know the results or is this something "for your eyes only"?

k.

I am thinking about it. I might do a summary.

M

Marko Tsourkan
05-13-2012, 09:34 AM
I am guessing that is the space for cow horn?

Yes, I removed it because I am likely not offer it on stock knives. Thanks for pointing out the blank.

M

Dieter01
05-13-2012, 10:33 AM
I don't like the fact that knives are offerend through a mailing list (and on the website). Like in my situation now, I would like to buy one of your knives. I would be happy to buy one with a standard geometry and grind. If there is a list of a few different wood/ferrule combinations I am sure I will be very happy with the stock handle options as well. What is annoying is not knowing how long it will take before I am able to place my order... I travel a lot with work and if I am away when you offer a new batch of knives I might not notice relevant pieces are gone.

I totally understand your need to streamline workflow and limit the time discussing needs and options with every customer - assuming the major time saver for you is being able to make batches of identical blades and limit the time discussing options through email. I would love to be able to put in an order though.

Ideally there would be no customization possible to the blade but a few options for the handle. Even better would be if a large number of handle-options were available, with a basic choice included in the price and more expensive options available with the extra cost listed as a (+$xx) behind the description. Rare / hard to find options would be for custom knives only. Etc... Would that be possible?

Marko Tsourkan
05-13-2012, 11:55 AM
I don't like the fact that knives are offerend through a mailing list (and on the website). Like in my situation now, I would like to buy one of your knives. I would be happy to buy one with a standard geometry and grind. If there is a list of a few different wood/ferrule combinations I am sure I will be very happy with the stock handle options as well. What is annoying is not knowing how long it will take before I am able to place my order... I travel a lot with work and if I am away when you offer a new batch of knives I might not notice relevant pieces are gone.

I totally understand your need to streamline workflow and limit the time discussing needs and options with every customer - assuming the major time saver for you is being able to make batches of identical blades and limit the time discussing options through email. I would love to be able to put in an order though.

Ideally there would be no customization possible to the blade but a few options for the handle. Even better would be if a large number of handle-options were available, with a basic choice included in the price and more expensive options available with the extra cost listed as a (+$xx) behind the description. Rare / hard to find options would be for custom knives only. Etc... Would that be possible?

I suppose, you can consider a custom order then. I will resume taking custom orders tomorrow; there is a form on the my site under Custom tab that you can fill out to get on a waiting list.

I decided to offer stock knives because I would like to keep my knives relatively affordable and that can be achieved by improving my efficiency - make multiples of knives of the same type and length, cut down on guess work, etc.

There is no fixed schedule when stock knives will be available - I will make them along the customs, but only when I don't have multiple of customs in that type or length (quite often the case). That's one caveat.

Another, even though I will try to match people's preference to knives I make as close as possible, and to notify those (as a group) interested in a particular type and length when this type and length is available, this would be an extent I am willing to do. Anything beyond that would be a custom.

Current choices of handle material reflect what I have on hand. I will add more choices as they become available.

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks,

M

Amon-Rukh
05-17-2012, 02:27 AM
Survey filled out! I noticed you have options on there for things like endcaps and spacer materials--is this something you're planning on offering for stock knives or is more of just a probe to see if that sort of thing would even be feasible in the first place?

Marko Tsourkan
05-17-2012, 09:23 AM
Survey filled out! I noticed you have options on there for things like endcaps and spacer materials--is this something you're planning on offering for stock knives or is more of just a probe to see if that sort of thing would even be feasible in the first place?

I have always made handles with spacers, but never with a metal endcap, and only recently I made one with a metal tip.

There seems to be interest in these, so I am going to offer these features as a choice, as well as I am going to offer a taper at the ferrule on an octagonal handle - a neat feature, if you alternate between a handle grip and a pinch grip.

For purists, a traditional octagonal handle - wood, spacer, and horn ferrule combination will continue to be available for as long as I am making them. :)

M

eto
05-17-2012, 09:17 PM
Your survey is a great way to figure things out Marko.

Im a production knife kind of guy. I think I just created a stealthy looking knife from your options.

Also just a thought , would you offer any with western style handles as well. I know there are a lot of wa-handle lovers out there, but there are folks who just don't like the feel of them.

Food for thought.

eto

Marko Tsourkan
05-17-2012, 10:11 PM
Your survey is a great way to figure things out Marko.

Im a production knife kind of guy. I think I just created a stealthy looking knife from your options.

Also just a thought , would you offer any with western style handles as well. I know there are a lot of wa-handle lovers out there, but there are folks who just don't like the feel of them.

Food for thought.

eto

You hit a nail right on a head.

My dabbling into a a Western handle is still in an early stage, but I hope to have a prototype to take with me to ECG.

It is going to feature a peened SS bolster, curvy (Coca-Cola bottle) shape, and a full tang. Design has been influenced by Bill Burke, Devin Thomas, and Bob Kramer.

M

eto
05-17-2012, 10:20 PM
You hit a nail right on a head.

My dabbling into a a Western handle is still in an early stage, but I hope to have a prototype for ECG. It is going to feature a peened SS bolster, curvy (Coca-Cola bottle) shape, and most a full tang. Design influenced by Bill Burke, Devin Thomas, and Bob Kramer.

M

There you go. A man with a plan. Good to see your ahead of the game. Keep it up Marko.

Dream Burls
05-18-2012, 08:50 AM
Marko,

I'm a bit late , but I did submit the survey. I applaud your creativity and enthusiasm.