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apicius9
06-17-2012, 03:26 PM
Hi, just getting your thoughts on that. I have a few family and friends who are quengeling because they didn't get a rehandled knife from me, yet... None of them are really knife people, so stainless would be best. I think 210 is more universal and I doubt that any of them will start with sharpening stones. So, I would like to get a budget knife but also one that does not embarrass me reg. basic performance and F&F. Any suggestions?
Thanks,

Stefan

oivind_dahle
06-17-2012, 03:30 PM
Fujiwara FKM Stainless Gyuto 210mm @ 75 USD
Tojiro DP Chef Knife 210mm @ 80 USD

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labor of love
06-17-2012, 03:32 PM
how about this sugimoto?http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sugimoto-Stainless-Steel-Traditional-Japanese-Gyuto-Kitchen-Knife-21cm-Blade-/110587071855?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DS

Timthebeaver
06-17-2012, 03:32 PM
Sugimoto CM. $75, great blade, rubbish handle.

obtuse
06-17-2012, 04:22 PM
how about the Yoshihiro line from JKI

Bryan
06-17-2012, 04:27 PM
******** Artifex?

99Limited
06-17-2012, 04:54 PM
The problem with both the Tojiro and Fujiwara is their bolsters. You might be able to knock them off without too much work. My vote would be for the Artifex. People may want to make clever comments about the name, but for $70 it has to be the best bang for the buck.

labor of love
06-17-2012, 04:57 PM
he said hes looking for a Wa gyuto

apicius9
06-17-2012, 05:03 PM
Thanks guys. I was, indeed, looking for a wa gyuto, not sure I am talented enough for Western handles... And for a conversion there is always the 'danger' that I have to refinish the whole blade, more work than I want for a budget knife. I was also thinking about the Sugimoto or the Tojiro DP which I think I saw for about the same price ~$80 somewhere. I was just wondering whether there are alternatives I may have overlooked.

Stefan

tk59
06-17-2012, 05:04 PM
I've been pleasantly impressed with the cutting performance of the Sugimoto stainless line. It's a perfect candidate for rehandling.

zitangy
06-18-2012, 01:42 AM
I've been pleasantly impressed with the cutting performance of the Sugimoto stainless line. It's a perfect candidate for rehandling.


I have played with it.. the Steel is very acceptable. I also use the chopper/ cleaver which is thin and light enough to be classified as a Chinese chef's knife.

a) it is a very thin blade

b) The tip has been rounded off to make it less dangeroous for the home user. I reprofiled from the spine to tip to make it more pointy..

c) Will be a gem as a thin blade gyuto with after your rehandle work..

d) do take note that the grinding for sharpening is 70/30 or 80/ 20 grind.

The price jumps quite significantly if it is a 240mm blade. Bang for the buck at 210mm.

Have fun...

rgds
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Taz575
06-18-2012, 03:54 AM
Tojiro makes a Wa handled DP gyuto in 210 and 240mm in VG-10 core steel.

With the handles you make, Western Handles should be no problem!! I find them easier than Wa style handles. Cut out your material, drill the pin holes and shape/sand/polish the front of the handle material with both scales held together with the pins, epoxy the handles to the tang, and then shape them out. The hardest part is getting everything flush to the tang. I have a small wheel attachment for a 1x30, but you can use the rubber sanding arbors and sanding bands they sell and use them in a lathe or drill press. Just go slow and don't use a lot of pressure because they will smoosh and the tang will stick out from the handle material.

apicius9
06-18-2012, 06:15 AM
Making a Western handle has been on my list for a long time (as has been making a saya), but since I had orders for wa handles piling up, I just kept postponing it. But this summer for sure!

I was going through my box today and found a whole bunch of budget knives I had pretty much forgotten about, including an Ittosai funayuki from Hidatool, a Tosagata nakiri, a Tosagata bunka and a couple of Kai Wasabi santokus. Maybe I will play around with those first, even though carbon blades may be a bit risky for some of my friends. But other than that the Sugimoto looks like a winner. Thanks!

Stefan

wenus2
06-18-2012, 12:18 PM
how about this sugimoto?http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sugimoto-Stainless-Steel-Traditional-Japanese-Gyuto-Kitchen-Knife-21cm-Blade-/110587071855?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DS

http://www.phoenixknifehouse.com/sugimoto/sugimoto-cm-wa-guyto-8-3-210mm.html

http://japan-blades.com/chef-knives/1292.html