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Dave Martell
06-20-2012, 02:54 PM
I'm going to switch to making all of my western handled knives as hidden tang with an upgrade option to full tang (scales) with pins, etc.

Current orders will be made in either configuration done at the customer's choice. I will contact the customer before I start working on their knife to ask them which they prefer. Please don't send me a message at this time, it'll just slow me down. :lol2:

The below images show the full tang w/scales & the hidden tang configurations. Note that the hidden tang will have a full width choil with step down to the tang, this is for strength and less flex.

Dave Martell
06-20-2012, 02:57 PM
Here I show a completed hidden tang handle western style gyuto.

*Note - this knife doesn't show the full width choil with step down tang.

kalaeb
06-20-2012, 02:58 PM
Good call. I really like the western hidden tangs.

Crothcipt
06-20-2012, 02:58 PM
Looks good and makes sense. Hope this goes well.

Dave Martell
06-20-2012, 02:59 PM
Here we see a full tang w/scales gyuto.

oivind_dahle
06-20-2012, 03:08 PM
Hidden tang is the only way to go

Johnny.B.Good
06-20-2012, 03:26 PM
Hidden tang is the only way to go

You may be right about this...

kalaeb
06-20-2012, 03:39 PM
Its a win/win stronger bonds because there are less peices to break down. Any shrinking (which is almost inevitable) is not a big deal because there is no steel to compare against or feel. No potential to have spaces between tangs. Better balance.... and easier/less time to execute and less prone to failure.

oivind_dahle
06-20-2012, 03:40 PM
You will need integral bolster however :)

Dream Burls
06-20-2012, 04:17 PM
Have to agree with oivind, integrated bolster with the hidden tang would be awesome.

Dave Martell
06-20-2012, 05:55 PM
Its a win/win stronger bonds because there are less peices to break down. Any shrinking (which is almost inevitable) is not a big deal because there is no steel to compare against or feel. No potential to have spaces between tangs. Better balance.... and easier/less time to execute and less prone to failure.


Exactly

Dave Martell
06-20-2012, 05:56 PM
You will need integral bolster however :)


One day I swear - one day! :)

Eamon Burke
06-20-2012, 06:04 PM
Are they all going to have emoto?

I don't like western handles with emoto.
:2cents:

Dave Martell
06-20-2012, 06:09 PM
Are they all going to have emoto?

I don't like western handles with emoto.
:2cents:


What's emoto again? I looked in the glossary but it's not listed. :rofl2:

Vertigo
06-20-2012, 06:13 PM
The "neck" that sticks out before the heel of the knife, on westerns the heel usually drops straight from the bolsters.

Dave Martell
06-20-2012, 06:14 PM
Google is my friend. :D

http://zknives.com/knives/kitchen/misc/jbladeant.shtml


OK then now that I know what emoto is I'll say no even though my above finished example show this as being a false statement. That was a messed up lost heel and made due with what was left over knife. Normally I would bring the front of the bolster/ferrule up to where the front of the bolster would normally be seen on a western.

Dave Martell
06-20-2012, 06:14 PM
The "neck" that sticks out before the heel of the knife, on westerns the heel usually drops straight from the bolsters.


Thanks Jack

Vertigo
06-20-2012, 06:17 PM
Thanks Jack

I ninja'd it in before your self-reply, it counts. :D

Eamon Burke
06-20-2012, 06:28 PM
Cool. My only beef with wa-to-western conversions is that they always leave the emoto, and it just feels like and awkward little bottleneck on the knife.

Bulldogbacchus
06-29-2012, 11:22 PM
Google is my friend. :D


That was a messed up lost heel and made due with what was left over knife.

I'm just gonna call this knife "The Bastard". It's one good looking bastard tho that cuts like a *****....
I'm glad it's mine.

Dave Martell
07-01-2012, 01:53 PM
I'm just gonna call this knife "The Bastard". It's one good looking bastard tho that cuts like a *****....
I'm glad it's mine.


Nice name - LOL :D

I'm just glad that you're enjoying it Matt.

heirkb
07-01-2012, 11:03 PM
Google is my friend. :D

http://zknives.com/knives/kitchen/misc/jbladeant.shtml


OK then now that I know what emoto is I'll say no even though my above finished example show this as being a false statement. That was a messed up lost heel and made due with what was left over knife. Normally I would bring the front of the bolster/ferrule up to where the front of the bolster would normally be seen on a western.

Nice. I asked about this in your other thread and I think it's a good decision on your part that you're going neck-less.