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Burl Source
07-05-2012, 05:39 PM
I was cutting snakewood the other day and things were not going well.
In a short time I became mad (can be taken either way).
So I did what any good woodworker would do;
I blamed the wood and threatened to turn it into tooth picks.
The results...
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac219/burlsource/apr12/tp001.jpg

Now I am going to take them home and use them as spears for finger food.

SpikeC
07-05-2012, 05:45 PM
Great idea! You could sell those on Etsy!

add
07-05-2012, 05:45 PM
Great work Mark!

Chopsticks in some of the custom woods would be popular I bet.
I have seen some cool ones guys have made out of G 10 and micarta...

Burl Source
07-05-2012, 05:59 PM
Great idea! You could sell those on Etsy!
Nope, they are going home with me.

One other time when I was in a weird mood I made about a dozen sets of chopsticks.
I put them in one of our galleries and they all sold right away.
Seems they kept getting bought by women who were using them in their hair.

Eamon Burke
07-05-2012, 07:11 PM
Nice. You make these on a lathe?

Pabloz
07-05-2012, 07:14 PM
What happened to the sheath wood????

tk59
07-05-2012, 07:24 PM
I'll take your next set of chopsticks. :)

Burl Source
07-05-2012, 07:50 PM
What happened to the sheath wood????
Too many scattered checks and flaws. All I was able to get were some sets of scales and a few blocks.
Hence the frustration.


Nice. You make these on a lathe?
No, these were a few minutes shaping freehand on a stationary belt sander. Around here "lathe" is a bad word, like "normal". We don't use the "N" word around here.


I'll take your next set of chopsticks. :)
They might be kind of funky looking but I will put a set in the mail soon.

tk59
07-05-2012, 08:19 PM
...a stationary belt sander...I can't imagine using one that is running around...

Burl Source
07-05-2012, 08:37 PM
I can't imagine using one that is running around...
Your comment reminds me of a story.
One time I was at my work bench sanding with a hand held belt sander and I kicked the circuit breaker for the power strip.
My boss came walking over to see what I was working on.
Since it was obvious I was running too much off the one power strip I unplugged a couple items.
Then I hit the reset button.
The belt sander ran across the work bench and flew about 10 feet through the air barely missing my boss. It pulled the plug and stopped.
When I lost power the trigger for the belt sander was locked into position. I had forgotten to unlock it before restoring power.
My boss gave me a look, to which I replied "it might not be safe for you to be hanging around here".
Good thing I wasn't using an extension cord. I would have been chasing that sander all over the place.

SpikeC
07-05-2012, 08:39 PM
I could see that one coming! (or going)

Andrew H
07-05-2012, 08:41 PM
There is some really nice figuring on some of those toothpicks.

Burl Source
07-05-2012, 09:07 PM
Since TK volunteered, he gets to be the official chopstick field tester.
I got started then thought a fresh cup of coffee would help wash down the sawdust.
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac219/burlsource/apr12/sw001-2.jpg

Now, back to the grindstone.

SpikeC
07-05-2012, 09:16 PM
Those might benefit from a little sliming..........

Andrew H
07-05-2012, 09:41 PM
Since TK volunteered, he gets to be the official chopstick field tester.
I got started then thought a fresh cup of coffee would help wash down the sawdust.
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac219/burlsource/apr12/sw001-2.jpg

Now, back to the grindstone.

Hey, I'll volunteer.

apicius9
07-05-2012, 10:00 PM
Mmhh, I was looking at cut-offs the other day, wondering what to do with them... Not sure I dare doing that on a fixed speed sander, bit it's a neat idea. Looking forward to seeing your collection of chopsticks from every wood available :)

Stefan

Burl Source
07-05-2012, 10:01 PM
I didn't know I was going to make the chopsticks.
Been working on the website all day and needed a break.
So when TK made his comment, I thought what the heck, I'll make a pair.
Good way to wind down the day.

Getting closer.
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac219/burlsource/apr12/sw002-2.jpg

Not sure how slim to go with the tips.
Right now the tips are 1/8"

SpikeC
07-05-2012, 10:25 PM
I think that 1/8 is just fine. Don't want to get too fragile, now!

Burl Source
07-05-2012, 11:18 PM
I think they are about done now.
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac219/burlsource/apr12/sw005-1.jpg
No finish on them yet. Not sure whether to wax, oil or.....?
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac219/burlsource/apr12/sw006-1.jpg

chinacats
07-05-2012, 11:39 PM
Sweet!

add
07-06-2012, 12:00 AM
Awesome.

Now for some BurlSource kanji :D... or, a pattern grooved perimeter near the top for improved purchase.

Lucretia
07-06-2012, 12:11 AM
Nope, they are going home with me.

One other time when I was in a weird mood I made about a dozen sets of chopsticks.
I put them in one of our galleries and they all sold right away.
Seems they kept getting bought by women who were using them in their hair.

To think I've been using plastic chopsticks in my hair.

These would really stand out against the grey if you get in the mood to make more...:biggrin:

Deckhand
07-06-2012, 01:04 PM
Damn! Love the toothpicks and chopsticks. Hope you make more! Great score TK.

VoodooMajik
07-06-2012, 01:36 PM
Cool chopsticks! I want... Lucky guy TK

Korin_Mari
07-06-2012, 01:49 PM
Neat! :D

LoL I have no experience with woodworking, but something you get fun results out of frustration.

I've had to make cookie cake a few times, because the cookie dough was too runny to do anything with. :)

Johnny.B.Good
07-06-2012, 02:31 PM
Those look sweet Mark!

El Pescador
07-06-2012, 03:43 PM
If we piss Mark of enough do you think I can get a dresser?

Burl Source
07-06-2012, 03:59 PM
Don't listen to the Pesky Monkey.
He is a bad influence.

I am going to make a batch of chopsticks.
Price will be based primarily on the time it takes to make them.
If some look way cool, they will be a few bucks more than any that are ugly.

Johnny.B.Good
07-06-2012, 04:10 PM
Now I just need a lesson on how to use them and I'll be all set. :O

Deckhand
07-06-2012, 05:51 PM
Now I just need a lesson on how to use them and I'll be all set. :O

Here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSXwc9LwMuQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

My parents made me practice with grains of rice as a child. The nice thing about chopsticks is you don't get that fork taste.:D

SpikeC
07-06-2012, 07:15 PM
It's our favorite fillet lady!

Cutty Sharp
07-06-2012, 07:56 PM
:tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue:
I was cutting snakewood the other day and ... became mad ... and threatened to turn it into tooth picks. The results... http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac219/burlsource/apr12/tp001.jpg


Nice set of toothpicks there, and looks like you've ground out some pretty nice profiles on them. The snakewood does look attractive, too.

However, what kind of point retention have you got on them? Extremely low HRC with the snakewood, I'd imagine. Me, I always go for either shirogami #1 or #2 with my picks and frankly my teeth thank me for it!

:tongue:

tk59
07-06-2012, 08:28 PM
Those look very nice, Mark! I might need a family set in each type of wood. This could get expensive...


...My parents made me practice with grains of rice as a child. The nice thing about chopsticks is you don't get that fork taste.:DThat reminds me. I once won a contest as a kid picking up marbles with chopsticks, lol. As for advantages, I like my knives to feel like an extension of my hand. Why wouldn't I want my utensils to be the same way? Fork? What a crude implement! :stinker:

Burl Source
07-06-2012, 08:36 PM
You guys have got me going off on a tangent with the chopsticks.
So far I have roughed out sets in Hawaiian Silky Oak, Macadamia. Red Koa and Bubinga.

Someone told me I should make those little chopstick holder thingies. What are they called?

tk59
07-06-2012, 08:43 PM
Oooooh... Holder thingies... :sofa:

Deckhand
07-06-2012, 08:47 PM
You guys have got me going off on a tangent with the chopsticks.
So far I have roughed out sets in Hawaiian Silky Oak, Macadamia. Red Koa and Bubinga.

Someone told me I should make those little chopstick holder thingies. What are they called?

Hashioki


Can't wait to see the pics. Macadamia sounds really cool! I want:D

WildBoar
07-06-2012, 09:47 PM
Better make more sets then you think you need to, as I think there is a bit of demand! (2 sets needed here, please :cool2:)

Burl Source
07-07-2012, 12:27 AM
Since I am using good wood, I decided to go all out on the finishing.
These are Koa and Macadamia.
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac219/burlsource/apr12/004-3.jpg
Here is a little better look at the wood.
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac219/burlsource/apr12/005-2.jpg

Tristan
07-07-2012, 12:50 AM
I'm down for a set of 8, once I can figure which is the prettiest wood... I was thinking Koa, I'm in a dilemma. I think black brown dyed box elder or dark highly figured spalted maple? Any chance we have a silversmith to work on the ends of the chopsticks? Would look amazing with a nice silver cap at the end... :D

This is an awesome project.

tk59
07-07-2012, 01:09 AM
I like these, too. I wonder how strong they are. What would it take to snap one?

Andrew H
07-07-2012, 02:33 AM
There's no problem with them being made out of stabilized wood is there? Health wise, I mean.

Rottman
07-07-2012, 08:49 AM
Hey, melted acrylic monomers are super yummy....

apicius9
07-07-2012, 09:12 AM
Haha... Interesting question, I would not want to breath in cocobolo dust, but can I chew on cocobolo chopsticks? Are any woods better than others?

Stefan

Deckhand
07-07-2012, 12:28 PM
I love them both and great wood choices. They are great!!

Burl Source
07-07-2012, 02:17 PM
There's no problem with them being made out of stabilized wood is there? Health wise, I mean.
I am using natural wood, not stabilized. For a finish I am using food safe butcher block oil.


I like these, too. I wonder how strong they are. What would it take to snap one?
Box elder burl and spalted maple would not work. They would break.
Same with most burl.
I am cutting these to follow the grain with no runout.
This way it incorporates the natural strength and flexibility of the wood.
They will not be as strong as bamboo because bamboo is one of the strongest with flexing of any wood.
But they will be strong enough that it would take an effort to break them.


Haha... Interesting question, I would not want to breath in cocobolo dust, but can I chew on cocobolo chopsticks? Are any woods better than others? Stefan

The way I was thinking was that any wood that acts as an irritant or has a strong aroma would probably not be good.

Burl Source
07-07-2012, 02:31 PM
Hey, melted acrylic monomers are super yummy....
The stabilizing process includes an activator that changes the acrylic monomer to a polymer.

Andrew H
07-07-2012, 02:40 PM
I am using natural wood, not stabilized. For a finish I am using food safe butcher block oil.


Box elder burl and spalted maple would not work. They would break.
Same with most burl.
I am cutting these to follow the grain with no runout.
This way it incorporates the natural strength and flexibility of the wood.
They will not be as strong as bamboo because bamboo is one of the strongest with flexing of any wood.
But they will be strong enough that it would take an effort to break them.



The way I was thinking was that any wood that acts as an irritant or has a strong aroma would probably not be good.

Ahh, that makes me feel much better. Thanks, Mark!

Deckhand
07-07-2012, 02:42 PM
I want them.

Burl Source
07-07-2012, 03:23 PM
Based on a batch of a dozen sets, I am putting about 90 minutes into each set. That accounts for a good portion of the cost. These will be both safe and strong.
I was figuring $25 to $30 a set for the chopsticks. $30 being the good Koa, $25 the others. I am putting a lot more time into the finish on these than I have in the past with sets I made for myself and our gallery. I figured I would just make these look the best they could be. They are being shaped by hand and eye so they will be a little bit asymetrical and the pair will not be exact duplicates of each other. But they will be really close and they will look good.
I would not be able to make a living doing them like this, but it is an enjoyable diversion for me.

Deckhand
07-07-2012, 03:43 PM
Thanks looking forward to my two sets. Great idea!

Burl Source
07-07-2012, 06:34 PM
Ok,
Here is the rest of this batch of sticks. Koa sticks $30 a pair, all others $25 a pair. The koa ones at the bottom are spoken for.
The types of wood going from top to bottom are;
African Bubinga - Hardest of all
Hawaiian Silky Oak - Hard
Hawaiian Macadamia - Hard
Hawaiian Silky Oak - Hard
Hawaiian Koa - Hard

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac219/burlsource/apr12/001-22.jpg

The Edge
07-07-2012, 06:39 PM
PM sent on second from the top bubinga pair!

apicius9
07-07-2012, 06:43 PM
Great job, Mark! They look fabulous.

Stefan

Burl Source
07-07-2012, 06:48 PM
PM sent on second from the top bubinga pair!
I pulled them and sent a note.

I had fun making these.
It was my first time finishing silky oak. Incredible flash. I am going to make me some sticks from it.

Now I am going to try making some of the holder thingies, Burlioki

Both Bubinga sets and the top 2 silky oak are spoken for.
But I have a bunch of blanks cut and will make more.

WildBoar
07-07-2012, 09:36 PM
Man, that's what I get from being away from the computer today... Will be watching for the next batch, as I'd like to have 2 pairs.

SpikeC
07-07-2012, 09:47 PM
I just can not understand why anyone would not have this site in front of them at all times!?!?

Crothcipt
07-07-2012, 09:54 PM
I spend at least 2 hrs a night here myself. I am on my phone too. But I do sleep from time to time.

Burl Source
07-07-2012, 09:54 PM
These are the ones that are left. $25 a pair.
Top 2 are Macadamia and the others are silky oak. Both Hawaiian woods.
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac219/burlsource/apr12/002-16.jpg

Burl Source
07-07-2012, 10:05 PM
Up until now I have been basing size and shape on my wife's favorite pair of chopsticks.
She uses sticks quite often, me....just when we go out to eat.

After looking a while on the internet I found quite a few variations. Some just dumb in my opinion, but what do I know.
Currently I am making them about 9 inches long, rounded all the way tapering to about 1/8" at the tip.

Should the tip be wider?
Most of the Japanese sticks I looked had the thin pointed tips. Chinese were wider, not as pointy.

For the handle area, rounded or square?
I liked the rounded taper along the whole stick. But a video I saw said a squared handle area was easier to use.

Here is a photo showing 2 rough shaped sets.
The lower set has about 3 inches of squared handle area before the taper.
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac219/burlsource/apr12/003-9.jpg

JasonD
07-07-2012, 10:11 PM
Didn't see anything wrong with your first batch. I really liked the bubinga

Burl Source
07-07-2012, 10:15 PM
The top silky oak are spoken for.

Jason, I agree about the bubinga.
It looks a little better in person. Has a little bit of a flash with slight color changes as the light hits from different angles.
I have roughed out several more sets to work on tomorrow.

SpikeC
07-07-2012, 10:17 PM
You need a square cross section at the top, then transition to octagonal for the next third, and then taper to round at 3/64th at the tip with silver at the very end. Otherwise you will give people food poisoning.

Burl Source
07-07-2012, 10:47 PM
I thought the silver was just in case you have to use your chopsticks as a self defense weapon against werewolves.

apicius9
07-07-2012, 10:54 PM
I'm a square, but I also have my own belt sander :)

Stefan

GlassEye
07-07-2012, 11:05 PM
I thought the silver was just in case you have to use your chopsticks as a self defense weapon against werewolves.

Also good for detecting poison, perhaps added by one's enemies.

Deckhand
07-08-2012, 01:01 AM
I prefer chopsticks round and tapered.
If you are making more. You might give them their own thread. Not everyone will search mad man makes toothpicks.

sachem allison
07-08-2012, 01:19 AM
"For the handle area, rounded or square?
I liked the rounded taper along the whole stick. But a video I saw said a squared handle area was easier to use."

That's not why, squares are cheaper to make and save on labor and materials. square became popular with the advent of mass produced chopsticks,also they don't roll away when you set them down. With that said I like round better.

Burl Source
07-10-2012, 02:37 PM
Everybody's chopsticks have been mailed.
I will start a new thread with available chopsticks soon.

I am having a good time and am making more.

BTW: if anyone is worried about being poisoned by friends or family, you might be able to send your sticks to Spike to have him install silver tips.

hax9215
07-11-2012, 01:12 PM
Are there any of these left?

Hax the Cook :D

Burl Source
07-11-2012, 02:57 PM
Are there any of these left?
Hax the Cook :D

There are 2 sets of Macadamia and 2 sets of Silky Oak left.
I will start a chopsticks thread later today with some new sets of Lacquered Koa sticks as well.

markenki
07-11-2012, 08:02 PM
How come no macadamia or silky oak blocks in the store?

Burl Source
07-11-2012, 10:21 PM
How come no macadamia or silky oak blocks in the store?
The Silky Oak was wood one of my Koa Suppliers thought I should check out. Popular with Luthiers but undiscovered elsewhere.
The Macadamia chunks came from one of my customers.
Neither were cut to work for handle blocks but worked out good for the sticks.