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Anton
03-29-2016, 03:11 PM
I don't buy many knives these days, but an auction for a Don Nguyen knife to help support his race car building team at ASU brought me out of my shell.

31336

You won't regret it. I have one and is one of favs. Asymmetric I assume?

mikedtran
03-29-2016, 10:12 PM
Just got this in the mail, easily one of my favorite Shigefusa purchases =)

http://i.imgur.com/XDgfkLS.jpg

aboynamedsuita
03-29-2016, 10:20 PM
Can't wait to see the family photo!

mikedtran
03-29-2016, 10:25 PM
Can't wait to see the family photo!

Just one more arriving from Aoki on Thursday =)

Dave Martell
03-29-2016, 10:32 PM
I don't buy many knives these days, but an auction for a Don Nguyen knife to help support his race car building team at ASU brought me out of my shell.

31336


The knife looks like a race car!

YG420
03-29-2016, 10:54 PM
210 Kato damascus gyuto
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/120843A7-5799-49AA-98A8-38649AABFD9D_zps4phwpdyb.jpg
180 Kato petty
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/5BCA02DE-CED7-48FA-9459-E6C41BA73A84_zpsquugmq2z.jpg
210 kato non workhorse gyuto
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/C849B21C-E0BF-4F1A-8507-55950213981E_zpsuqkcznui.jpg
240 Shigefusa kitaeji
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/37CB1928-376D-4095-AFD8-13D500817208_zpsgpugiqxs.jpg
240 Konosuke honyaki b2 gyuto still waiting for a handle. Ive had this one for a while now.
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/7B3C8F5F-3301-426F-8024-68472F251CCA_zpsvtmg3rra.jpg
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/7A8DF0FB-DBB5-4D3E-81DB-1F52A7457BA4_zpsoy5jisc9.jpg
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/657801CB-41F4-4253-9E5A-0239BFA955CB_zpsvlbx991g.jpg
240 Kato workhorse
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/E292EF25-0162-446C-B82E-14DA3A6747D4_zpswsqrfgbj.jpg

mikedtran
03-29-2016, 10:56 PM
Holy freaking moly dude...

fujiyama
03-29-2016, 10:59 PM
Beautiful knives right there. Love the profile of that Honyaki.

An urge for a 210 Shigefusa Kitaeji has come upon me.

YG420
03-29-2016, 11:00 PM
These were purchased over the course of a few months to a year but I barely found out how to post pics lol, but the Katos are new. Ive got my handle materials ready for the kono looking to get that some new shoes and some patina on it!

YG420
03-29-2016, 11:04 PM
Thanks! Id say go for it! That pic of the Shig was taken after some use and i used some fingerstones to bring out the layers. I was kinda scared at first but i think it came out all right.

glestain
03-29-2016, 11:20 PM
Just got this in the mail, easily one of my favorite Shigefusa purchases =)

http://i.imgur.com/XDgfkLS.jpg

Is that a single or double bevel?

mikedtran
03-29-2016, 11:24 PM
Is that a single or double bevel?

Single bevel, it is a mukimono. I think it is 175mm but I haven't measured it yet.

glestain
03-29-2016, 11:57 PM
It looks like single bevel kritsuki.

Chicagohawkie
03-29-2016, 11:58 PM
Those are sick knives bitches! Lol!

In my best leslie chow voice!

Chicagohawkie
03-30-2016, 12:04 AM
210 Kato damascus gyuto
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/120843A7-5799-49AA-98A8-38649AABFD9D_zps4phwpdyb.jpg
180 Kato petty
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/5BCA02DE-CED7-48FA-9459-E6C41BA73A84_zpsquugmq2z.jpg
210 kato non workhorse gyuto
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/C849B21C-E0BF-4F1A-8507-55950213981E_zpsuqkcznui.jpg
240 Shigefusa kitaeji
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/37CB1928-376D-4095-AFD8-13D500817208_zpsgpugiqxs.jpg
240 Konosuke honyaki b2 gyuto still waiting for a handle. Ive had this one for a while now.
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/7B3C8F5F-3301-426F-8024-68472F251CCA_zpsvtmg3rra.jpg
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/7A8DF0FB-DBB5-4D3E-81DB-1F52A7457BA4_zpsoy5jisc9.jpg
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/657801CB-41F4-4253-9E5A-0239BFA955CB_zpsvlbx991g.jpg
240 Kato workhorse
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/E292EF25-0162-446C-B82E-14DA3A6747D4_zpswsqrfgbj.jpg

I want to see some patina on all those!

YG420
03-30-2016, 12:32 AM
Heres the 210 non workhorse and 180 petty with some patina. The 210 is quickly becoming my go to knife. i hit it with some fingerstones real quick to see how it would look, kinda like it. i still have to go back and hit it more thoroughly though. I did the same with my Kono fuji w1 and it looks like a whole different knife.
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/79775E49-1AFE-44A5-BB08-8060B5918C36_zpsktqne4nl.jpg
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/C428EC37-177D-4B89-8D48-47B4DF4E09D5_zpsewkzebwd.jpg

mikedtran
03-30-2016, 01:37 AM
What fingerstones did you use / who did you get them from?

Do you find it leaves some scratches?

Badgertooth
03-30-2016, 01:45 AM
Heres the 210 non workhorse and 180 petty with some patina. The 210 is quickly becoming my go to knife. i hit it with some fingerstones real quick to see how it would look, kinda like it. i still have to go back and hit it more thoroughly though. I did the same with my Kono fuji w1 and it looks like a whole different knife.
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/79775E49-1AFE-44A5-BB08-8060B5918C36_zpsktqne4nl.jpg
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/C428EC37-177D-4B89-8D48-47B4DF4E09D5_zpsewkzebwd.jpg

What are your thoughts on vanilla Kato vs workhorse Kato? You mentioned the std 210 is quickly becoming your go-to.

YG420
03-30-2016, 02:03 AM
What fingerstones did you use / who did you get them from?

Do you find it leaves some scratches?

Theyre fingerstones for sword polishing from namikawa. Theres two types: hazuya, which is uchigumori and jizuya which I believe is narutaki. They do leave fine scratches but not unlike what you'll find on a Kitaeji shig if you look at it from different angles, lighting. Im still playing around and experimenting with them along with other stones and strops. Mostly Im playing with the hagane, trying to get a near mirror polish but leaving a nice hazy kasumi finish on the jigane and having a nice contrast between the two. I kinda wana try the burnishing needles they use to make mirror polishes but Im sure Ill mess something up lol.

YG420
03-30-2016, 02:26 AM
What are your thoughts on vanilla Kato vs workhorse Kato? You mentioned the std 210 is quickly becoming your go-to.

Its kinda hard to compare the two since one is a 210 and the other is a 240. The non workhorse comes a bit undersized (~200) and the workhorse comes a bit oversized (~250.) The workhorse feels very substantial, heavy like a workhorse should, while the 210 feels very nimble but has some nice heft to it also and cuts with some authority. The 240 will wedge a bit sometimes on certain things but nowhere near as bad as a Shig, while the 210 hasnt hesitated once on anything Ive thrown at it. Ive even had a little bit of wedging with the 180 petty. Both seem the same as far as reactivity is concerned and I havent experienced any chipping yet. They have big handles for their size and i thought I wouldnt like it at first but Ive grown to love em. You really cant go wrong with either one since they both are bad a$$ knives and I wouldnt hesitate to purchase one again! My personal preference has me going more and more towards smaller knives recently so that might be the reason why Ive been grabbing the 210 more often. Once I get more free time, Id really like to put the damascus vs non workhorse through the paces and see how they compare.

mikedtran
03-30-2016, 03:02 AM
Theyre fingerstones for sword polishing from namikawa. Theres two types: hazuya, which is uchigumori and jizuya which I believe is narutaki. They do leave fine scratches but not unlike what you'll find on a Kitaeji shig if you look at it from different angles, lighting. Im still playing around and experimenting with them along with other stones and strops. Mostly Im playing with the hagane, trying to get a near mirror polish but leaving a nice hazy kasumi finish on the jigane and having a nice contrast between the two. I kinda wana try the burnishing needles they use to make mirror polishes but Im sure Ill mess something up lol.

Awesome thanks for the info. Namikawa seems like a solid source for finger stones (very reasonable priced and already lacquered).

Did you have to do much prep on the finger stones to get them ready? Additional thinning?
Did you prefer the hazuya or jizuya for polishing your Kitaeji / Katos? Is it different for each or do they have their own uses/effects? =)

YG420
03-30-2016, 03:24 AM
Awesome thanks for the info. Namikawa seems like a solid source for finger stones (very reasonable priced and already lacquered).

Did you have to do much prep on the finger stones to get them ready? Additional thinning?
Did you prefer the hazuya or jizuya for polishing your Kitaeji / Katos? Is it different for each or do they have their own uses/effects? =)

Yea theyre legit for sure and them being lacquered already halps a bunch. You do still have to break pieces off that you want to use and flatten them a bit. I like to use a muddy jnat finishing stone for this and i also use the mud created and apply it on the knife itself. Maksim has some videos on it and i believe So-san has a write up about it online as well.
My understanding is that the hazuya is meant for the hagane and the jizuya is meant for the jigane. Ive been experimenting with them and it seems like I get different results with different knives. Honestly, its kinda hard for me to tell the difference between the two. Lately Ive been more focused on mixing and matching stones before i hit them with the finger stones. Ive also read that the narutaki (jizuya) was the best for kiteji but I forgot which ones I used on mine ha. But either fingerstone you use will turn the soft iron darker and the core steel brighter and you cant go wrong with either one. Just make sure you have the right ratio of mud/moisture on the knife when you polish. You dont want it too thick where itll get stuck on the blade and if its too watery you can scratch it.

aboynamedsuita
03-30-2016, 06:05 AM
210 Kato damascus gyuto
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/120843A7-5799-49AA-98A8-38649AABFD9D_zps4phwpdyb.jpg

Congrats brother, I just went to check to make sure my 210 Damascus hadn't vanished. I was unsure about getting into Kato knives but now I'm wanting to add a 210 workhorse

YG420
03-30-2016, 06:59 AM
Congrats brother, I just went to check to make sure my 210 Damascus hadn't vanished. I was unsure about getting into Kato knives but now I'm wanting to add a 210 workhorse

Thanks man! This one actually came from Canada too lol! I say go for the Kato! Theres just something about them thats so different from other knives ive tried.

Miho
03-30-2016, 08:14 AM
I hope the kato dasmascus gets a good workout :)

Planning a rehandle or going to stay with the lefty D handle?

Hianyiaw
03-30-2016, 09:34 AM
I thought I was satisfied with the normal kato. Now looking at the Damascus makes me want it real bad...

TheDispossessed
03-30-2016, 10:57 AM
One of the things that makes kato damascus cool is the way you get tight layers again at the spine due to the pronounced convex grind that goes all the way up.

F-Flash
03-30-2016, 11:42 AM
I might have to let my kikuryu Kato gyuto (240mm) go to BST soon, little bit too heavy for my liking. 274g, I feel more comfortable with around 200g

bkultra
03-30-2016, 11:49 AM
I might have to let my kikuryu Kato gyuto (240mm) go to BST soon, little bit too heavy for my liking. 274g, I feel more comfortable with around 200g

I foresee you getting a lot of PMs.

lifeis11
03-30-2016, 04:02 PM
Got this BEAST of a kiritsuke on the way from Mr Don Nguyen, my first from him. 230mm, 275g! :O

Very stoked!

These are some pics from him (hasn't shown up quite yet)

http://i.imgur.com/BtFp2Uq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5pqpOnL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jeXpC9X.jpg

YG420
03-30-2016, 04:23 PM
I hope the kato dasmascus gets a good workout :)

Planning a rehandle or going to stay with the lefty D handle?
Oh it will get a workout lol! The lefty handle really doesnt bother me but I think this knife deserves a custom handle.

MontezumaBoy
03-30-2016, 11:56 PM
Damn Lifeis11 - that Nguyen is gorgeous! You may have been looking at that Haburn Western I was picked up but this piece of bada$$ knifedom is equally amazing! Super jealous as I have only ever just seen one of Mr. Nguyen's work in person (& never been able to play with it)! Congrats & have fun with it!

TjA


Got this BEAST of a kiritsuke on the way from Mr Don Nguyen, my first from him. 230mm, 275g! :O

Very stoked!

These are some pics from him (hasn't shown up quite yet)

http://i.imgur.com/BtFp2Uq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5pqpOnL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jeXpC9X.jpg

Badgertooth
03-31-2016, 12:53 AM
Daddy like

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/Badgertooth/Mobile%20Uploads/CE173E21-28CF-459F-ADCA-6F362767CDCB_zpswqjwqrk8.jpg (http://s1038.photobucket.com/user/Badgertooth/media/Mobile%20Uploads/CE173E21-28CF-459F-ADCA-6F362767CDCB_zpswqjwqrk8.jpg.html)

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/Badgertooth/Mobile%20Uploads/C61D816E-CBFF-4194-B30B-B7489BCBFB03_zpsgj6lk4yf.jpg (http://s1038.photobucket.com/user/Badgertooth/media/Mobile%20Uploads/C61D816E-CBFF-4194-B30B-B7489BCBFB03_zpsgj6lk4yf.jpg.html)

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/Badgertooth/Mobile%20Uploads/F8ABB0A9-A387-4809-948A-5227543C6DD6_zpsbkbm91cm.jpg (http://s1038.photobucket.com/user/Badgertooth/media/Mobile%20Uploads/F8ABB0A9-A387-4809-948A-5227543C6DD6_zpsbkbm91cm.jpg.html)

Chicagohawkie
03-31-2016, 01:14 AM
Daddy like

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/Badgertooth/Mobile%20Uploads/CE173E21-28CF-459F-ADCA-6F362767CDCB_zpswqjwqrk8.jpg (http://s1038.photobucket.com/user/Badgertooth/media/Mobile%20Uploads/CE173E21-28CF-459F-ADCA-6F362767CDCB_zpswqjwqrk8.jpg.html)

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/Badgertooth/Mobile%20Uploads/C61D816E-CBFF-4194-B30B-B7489BCBFB03_zpsgj6lk4yf.jpg (http://s1038.photobucket.com/user/Badgertooth/media/Mobile%20Uploads/C61D816E-CBFF-4194-B30B-B7489BCBFB03_zpsgj6lk4yf.jpg.html)

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/Badgertooth/Mobile%20Uploads/F8ABB0A9-A387-4809-948A-5227543C6DD6_zpsbkbm91cm.jpg (http://s1038.photobucket.com/user/Badgertooth/media/Mobile%20Uploads/F8ABB0A9-A387-4809-948A-5227543C6DD6_zpsbkbm91cm.jpg.html)


Nice, details?

mikedtran
03-31-2016, 01:17 AM
Nice, details?

+1 details please

lifeis11
03-31-2016, 01:19 AM
Damn Lifeis11 - that Nguyen is gorgeous! You may have been looking at that Haburn Western I was picked up but this piece of bada$$ knifedom is equally amazing! Super jealous as I have only ever just seen one of Mr. Nguyen's work in person (& never been able to play with it)! Congrats & have fun with it!

TjA

Thanks man, I've never actually seen or played with one of his knives in person, but I more or less decided it's time to start crossing stuff off the bucket list. The fact that it was a kiritsuke just pushed the coolness factor up a notch for me personally, as I don't own one. Well, I guess I do now! :thumbsup:

Badgertooth
03-31-2016, 01:24 AM
Nice, details?

Konosuke Fujiyama 240mm "Togo Reigou" though it's not really Andrews of Sheffield but a Swedish steel with, supposedly, similar characteristics.

Kurogaki shoes.

I'm well aware that it may be a spectacular piece of marketing but I'm putting it through its paces for dinner and it cuts like a sonumb!tch and I already love it.

Do you have Kenichi Shiraki as the smith?

Chicagohawkie
03-31-2016, 01:34 AM
Konosuke Fujiyama 240mm "Togo Reigou" though it's not really Andrews of Sheffield but a Swedish steel with, supposedly, similar characteristics.

Kurogaki shoes.

I'm well aware that it may be a spectacular piece of marketing but I'm putting it through its paces for dinner and it cuts like a sonumb!tch and I already love it.

Do you have Kenichi Shiraki as the smith?


I thought that's what it was but I the ones I saw were from Canada. Man, those are lovely, would really like to hear how they perform.

Chicagohawkie
03-31-2016, 01:38 AM
I don't know who the smith is? Shiraki San could have been, but I would assume it was done by a person who has the most experience it's that steel type. I know it's NOS and possibly pretty old.

YG420
03-31-2016, 02:38 AM
Daddy like

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/Badgertooth/Mobile%20Uploads/CE173E21-28CF-459F-ADCA-6F362767CDCB_zpswqjwqrk8.jpg (http://s1038.photobucket.com/user/Badgertooth/media/Mobile%20Uploads/CE173E21-28CF-459F-ADCA-6F362767CDCB_zpswqjwqrk8.jpg.html)

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/Badgertooth/Mobile%20Uploads/C61D816E-CBFF-4194-B30B-B7489BCBFB03_zpsgj6lk4yf.jpg (http://s1038.photobucket.com/user/Badgertooth/media/Mobile%20Uploads/C61D816E-CBFF-4194-B30B-B7489BCBFB03_zpsgj6lk4yf.jpg.html)

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/Badgertooth/Mobile%20Uploads/F8ABB0A9-A387-4809-948A-5227543C6DD6_zpsbkbm91cm.jpg (http://s1038.photobucket.com/user/Badgertooth/media/Mobile%20Uploads/F8ABB0A9-A387-4809-948A-5227543C6DD6_zpsbkbm91cm.jpg.html)

Sick!!

Badgertooth
03-31-2016, 05:07 AM
I thought that's what it was but I the ones I saw were from Canada. Man, those are lovely, would really like to hear how they perform.

Performance is great. Very nice grind and I decided to put my own edge on it as OOTB edge .runs a little on smooth-skinned veg. Steel is the hardest I've felt, taking a fair bit of grunt on Choseras to move any metal. Holds a wire like crazy but after de-burring on an old tshirt and stropping on newspaper, it is crazy sharp.

frog13
03-31-2016, 09:56 AM
Hi all,
My name is Don and I have been hanging out, reading and learning from this site for about a year now. I have many kitchen knives of different low/mid range varieties, all of German/French origin. I do also have a few cheap Chinese knives like Kiwis that I find amazingly sharp but no edge retention. I finally broke down and started my new Japanese obsession with some Tojiro DPs to get started (210mm Gyuto, 270mm Sujihiki and two Petty, 90mm and 150mm). I also bought an Edge Pro Apex and upgraded to Shapton glass stones. I figured that was everything I needed to get started in the world of Japanese knives and sharpening, figured this should last for a long time.

Well, now I have added a Shigeki Tanaka Blue #2 Santoku to satisfy this strange craving I've acquired. I wanted to try out some plain carbon steel. I have also put a great sharp edge on every knife in the house. Now I'm searching for my next knife and looking at stones so I can learn to sharpen by hand without the crutch. I know, I should have started there but the Edge Pro really did help build my confidence by helping me understand angles and some of the tactile feedback from burrs, various grits, etc. on different steels.

Ok, that was lengthy and wordy but hey, thanks for having me here, looking forward to my new adventure and my next investment.

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq136/datster/20160205_103634.jpg
http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq136/datster/20160207_093932.jpg
http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq136/datster/20160325_095313.jpg
http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq136/datster/20160325_095340.jpg

Badgertooth
03-31-2016, 01:23 PM
Tanaka is a good gateway drug. And you'd be hard pressed to find a better paring knife at most price points than the Tojiro 90mm, I absolutely love mine. The EP doesn't get much love around here but it also gave me the confidence to freehand once I understood angles and gained a bit of insight using it. Look forward to seeing your new acquisitions over time

lifeis11
03-31-2016, 04:33 PM
Got another one in the mail today. I know Joel doesn't get a ton of love around here from what I've seen, but I really enjoy his knives from Cut Brooklyn. This is a 120mm AEB-L Prospect in Walnut with copper and brass mosaic pins.

https://i.imgur.com/k7V5g3L.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IQqBMQt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pq2Jq3b.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Ukssllk.jpg

Dardeau
03-31-2016, 08:14 PM
31367

Thanks to Mike for pointing me in the right direction. It is much lighter than the Uraku I had, to the point I thought I got a 240mm by mistake. I put my girlfriend's old Wustie up to it to double check.

31368

Nope, just super light. It feels good in my hand. I can't wait to make a saya so I can take it to work.

panda
03-31-2016, 09:12 PM
what do you use it for? you must get in some big arse fish.

Dardeau
03-31-2016, 09:16 PM
It's more that I can break down a fish, clean the knife, and use it like a yanagiba to portion and slice without changing knives.

We did get 150# yellowfin the other day. Biggest yellowfin I've ever seen.

mikedtran
03-31-2016, 09:25 PM
31367

Thanks to Mike for pointing me in the right direction. It is much lighter than the Uraku I had, to the point I thought I got a 240mm by mistake. I put my girlfriend's old Wustie up to it to double check.

Glad I could help mate. I think that was a killer deal on that blade. Looks great also =)

ynot1985
03-31-2016, 09:44 PM
was this the 270mm?

I got the 210mm from the same place and seriously it was like an inch shorter than my 210 shig gyutos.


31367

Thanks to Mike for pointing me in the right direction. It is much lighter than the Uraku I had, to the point I thought I got a 240mm by mistake. I put my girlfriend's old Wustie up to it to double check.

31368

Nope, just super light. It feels good in my hand. I can't wait to make a saya so I can take it to work.

aboynamedsuita
03-31-2016, 10:01 PM
was this the 270mm?

I got the 210mm from the same place and seriously it was like an inch shorter than my 210 shig gyutos.

Is the 210 from the machi/ferrule?

Good score gents!

Dardeau
03-31-2016, 10:01 PM
Yeah it's the 270mm. It's sitting next to a 10" Wusthof, so it's pretty close to 270mm.

daveb
03-31-2016, 10:13 PM
Looks good Andre. I'll have an order of Golliath sashimi please.

Mucho Bocho
03-31-2016, 10:19 PM
Looks good Andre. I'll have an order of Golliath sashimi please.

Be nice to the Golliath, Mulllet.

Dardeau
03-31-2016, 10:26 PM
31369

Like this?

Mucho Bocho
03-31-2016, 10:46 PM
No s#!t. Bad a$& Mr Link. Can I have the cheeks and eyes please.

daveb
03-31-2016, 10:56 PM
That would be the one.

Dennis - you Yankees aren't supposed to know what grouper cheeks are, much less like them...:cool2:

Mucho Bocho
03-31-2016, 11:04 PM
The Portuguese know fish

panda
03-31-2016, 11:07 PM
Too wormy

brainsausage
03-31-2016, 11:18 PM
Too wormy

You're too wormy Sun.

Smurfmacaw
03-31-2016, 11:29 PM
Eyes???? Ewwwwwwwwwwwww.

mr drinky
03-31-2016, 11:41 PM
Got another one in the mail today. I know Joel doesn't get a ton of love around here from what I've seen, but I really enjoy his knives from Cut Brooklyn. This is a 120mm AEB-L Prospect in Walnut with copper and brass mosaic pins.

https://i.imgur.com/k7V5g3L.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IQqBMQt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pq2Jq3b.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Ukssllk.jpg

I think Joel and Dave Martell have some respect for each other, and I think most just feel his knives are outpriced in comparison to other knifemakers, but he knows his market. Brooklyn+high end rollers. I hope he makes as much money as possible really so he can make awesome knives. But I also know he has resisted his knives being introduced to this forum. And I personally have left messages and tried to buy two of his knives, and I never got a return call. The fact he could disregard a buyer, says something: he has a different market. He doesn't need (or want) the buyers or circumspection of this forum. That isn't a bad route to take, just not one that reflects the ethos of this board. There are many ways to make knives. People who are strong marketers: Cut Brooklyn, Kramer, Middleton etc. have no benefit in stomping here. And that is just fine. I bet his knives are really good -- I just can't say for sure ;)

EDIT: but it is also telling that without the constant lobbying of Devin and Larrin, AEB-L probably would not be used as much in kitchen knives and Joel may not have used it, so even though he doesn't participate in this forum or the previous iteration at KF, his knives are definitely somewhat derivative.

panda
04-01-2016, 12:24 AM
i bet it's because his knives stink and this forum would shred it apart. that latest one looks like a flat ground mac with weird handle.

AllanP
04-01-2016, 12:30 AM
i bet it's because his knives stink and this forum would shred it apart. that latest one looks like a flat ground mac with weird handle.

There was a passaround of his knife a few years ago I think, You can still find the thread.

The consensus was that it was a pretty good cutter, but just doesn't stand out enough in anyway for the price or hype.

vai777
04-01-2016, 12:35 AM
Damn she's a beauty sir!
My new bunka in action. :)
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/t31.0-8/12322736_10153766017159210_1261550759615198025_o.j pg

ZDP-189 IS SO FRIGGIN GOOD IT ISN'T EVEN FUNNY

vai777
04-01-2016, 12:39 AM
http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a520/marc4pt0/Haburn/20151215_133159_zpsytdjqyf7.jpg


http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a520/marc4pt0/Haburn/20151215_133136_zpscsparaj6.jpg

GOOD GOD!!!!

vai777
04-01-2016, 12:42 AM
My Kitaeji suji finally arrived~~, huge thanks to Dan for making the handle.

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u409/jameswang2536/IMG_0384_zpsatuqsbcm.jpg (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/jameswang2536/media/IMG_0384_zpsatuqsbcm.jpg.html)


My current Kitaeji family:

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u409/jameswang2536/IMG_0399_zps2xhdbkil.jpg (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/jameswang2536/media/IMG_0399_zps2xhdbkil.jpg.html)

UR Killing me!!! That Suji is sick!!!

vai777
04-01-2016, 12:43 AM
Well, Godslayer's advise is getting the best of me. The thought of not having a matching gyuto, petty, suji set was annoying, so even though I literally just got a Hana I nabbed the only available 270mm Uchigumo:
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab204/tjangula/Mobile%20Uploads/38D83A40-ADDB-4C0E-8543-8A7B5244BF83_zpsaf5ycmvl.jpg

Some family photos with its non-identical but very similar twins:
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab204/tjangula/Mobile%20Uploads/682C6F23-B8D6-43F8-A5F2-D91B89C1C30B_zpsyfsk8tlk.jpg
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab204/tjangula/Mobile%20Uploads/413E8C19-55C3-4817-9015-B2641D0DF8F1_zpsgrzo77pa.jpg
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab204/tjangula/Mobile%20Uploads/5F72C5D1-5DF1-4B0A-BBED-AB0A959C5480_zpsnyobwxja.jpg

wow, those are nice

panda
04-01-2016, 01:02 AM
allanp did we read the same thread? cause i took from that thread that the consensus was it was a turd.

vai777
04-01-2016, 01:28 AM
Just arrived:
A Nenohi (white 1) Mizu honyaki Kiritsuke 415mm (16.33'') wide blade.
The blade was forged by Mr. Yoshikazu Ikeda and the final sharpening by Mr. Yusuke Sawada.
Overall length is 600mm (23.62").
Weight is 554g.
The edge measures 415mm (16.33"). It is 48.7mm (1.92") high at the heel.
The spine is 4.71mm at the heel and 0.9mm at the tip.
The handle is Desert Ironwood burl detachable handle (black pin) with smooth
surfaced silver bolster, ironwood ring, silver ring, smooth surfaced silver
cap.
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Nenohi/IMG_20160320_185102_zpsrasnkfzr.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Nenohi/IMG_20160320_185102_zpsrasnkfzr.jpg.html)
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Nenohi/IMG_20160320_185859_zpsj9csr3i1.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Nenohi/IMG_20160320_185859_zpsj9csr3i1.jpg.html)
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Nenohi/IMG_20160320_185809_zpsygsuh9ax.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Nenohi/IMG_20160320_185809_zpsygsuh9ax.jpg.html)
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Nenohi/IMG_20160320_185709_zpsioxqr6b7.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Nenohi/IMG_20160320_185709_zpsioxqr6b7.jpg.html)
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Nenohi/IMG_20160320_185135_zpsjjoof2s4.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Nenohi/IMG_20160320_185135_zpsjjoof2s4.jpg.html)

you know what? I'm done, I can't go on after looking at that knife.... RIDICULOUS!!!!

vai777
04-01-2016, 01:29 AM
Got this 180mm kitaeji petty last week from Matteo and it finally arrived today~
http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u409/jameswang2536/8FA25DBF-BC15-462F-A609-2B88A9253DF1_zpsgf8se7fw.jpg (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/jameswang2536/media/8FA25DBF-BC15-462F-A609-2B88A9253DF1_zpsgf8se7fw.jpg.html)

Here is my complete collection of Shigefusa kitaeji:biggrin:
http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u409/jameswang2536/EF80C2FD-239F-4577-8A4D-232879165ACB_zps5brfzy0m.jpg (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/jameswang2536/media/EF80C2FD-239F-4577-8A4D-232879165ACB_zps5brfzy0m.jpg.html)


Seriously? WOW!!!!!!

AllanP
04-01-2016, 02:21 AM
allanp did we read the same thread? cause i took from that thread that the consensus was it was a turd.

http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/showthread.php/7498-Cut-Brooklyn-pass-around

this is the one I read through. The consensus I got was that it was okayish good with obvious issues

chinacats
04-01-2016, 02:57 AM
http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/showthread.php/7498-Cut-Brooklyn-pass-around

this is the one I read through. The consensus I got was that it was okayish good with obvious issues

Not too speak for Panda but I'm guessing "okayish good with obvious issues" pretty much = turd.

alterwisser
04-01-2016, 07:54 AM
I think Joel and Dave Martell have some respect for each other, and I think most just feel his knives are outpriced in comparison to other knifemakers, but he knows his market. Brooklyn+high end rollers. I hope he makes as much money as possible really so he can make awesome knives. But I also know he has resisted his knives being introduced to this forum. And I personally have left messages and tried to buy two of his knives, and I never got a return call. The fact he could disregard a buyer, says something: he has a different market. He doesn't need (or want) the buyers or circumspection of this forum. That isn't a bad route to take, just not one that reflects the ethos of this board. There are many ways to make knives. People who are strong marketers: Cut Brooklyn, Kramer, Middleton etc. have no benefit in stomping here. And that is just fine. I bet his knives are really good -- I just can't say for sure ;)

EDIT: but it is also telling that without the constant lobbying of Devin and Larrin, AEB-L probably would not be used as much in kitchen knives and Joel may not have used it, so even though he doesn't participate in this forum or the previous iteration at KF, his knives are definitely somewhat derivative.

Here's my Joel story. Back when we moved to the US in 2012 I still didn't know of this forum, had three entry level J-knives I bought in Berlin ... One of those a visitor left wet overnight. I took it to Joel's shop in BK to see if he can fix it. He was the nicest guy, talked to me for about 30 minutes without ever pushing his knives and after basically telling me right away that I should go to Korin to get the knife fixed, that they'd do a better job with J knives.

I tried a couple of his knives and they were far superior to my knives (at 6 times the price, mind you)

I think he has found his market. And he's a perfect fit for Brooklyn and what Brooklyn has become. I love Brooklyn, even though some parts have become too much!

I assume he's doing well, even back then he was wearing a Rolex. I know, that doesn't mean anything, I have one and I'm far from rich, but I'm just saying. I wish anyone like him this success. Anyone who's doing their thing, finding something their passionate about and being able to make a living with it. And if he's introducing more people to the world of great knives, even better.

Just my two cents. I might be biased, but he was an absolute pleasure to talk to even know it was obvious to him that I knew nothing about knives (back then).

That is one of my favorite aspects of dealing with custom makers, btw. Mert, Robin, Tilman, Marko... They were all great and took or are still taking a lot of time to answer questions, to meet even, and go way beyond anything that you might expect when purchasing a knife.

DamageInc
04-01-2016, 08:26 AM
It'll only be in my possession for a few more hours, but it's still technically my newest knife purchase. I'm damn impressed with these Toyama knives.

210mm Toyama Noborikoi

http://gabeazo.com/images/beaf5ab31aff8e930c0c.png
http://gabeazo.com/images/5d99dc9852946880ca39.png

TheDispossessed
04-01-2016, 09:38 AM
So begins the week long takeover of Toyama on this thread!
Looks great.

It'll only be in my possession for a few more hours, but it's still technically my newest knife purchase. I'm damn impressed with these Toyama knives.

210mm Toyama Noborikoi

http://gabeazo.com/images/beaf5ab31aff8e930c0c.png
http://gabeazo.com/images/5d99dc9852946880ca39.png

aboynamedsuita
04-01-2016, 02:01 PM
So begins the week long takeover of Toyama on this thread!
Looks great.

Mine should arrive on Monday

Badgertooth
04-01-2016, 02:08 PM
So begins the week long takeover of Toyama on this thread!
Looks great.

Not gonna lie, I'm gonna be a part of this problem

TheDispossessed
04-01-2016, 09:23 PM
oops, never mind

TheDispossessed
04-01-2016, 09:33 PM
Sucker for a good sale.....
210mm
http://s8.postimg.org/9fugyep39/Toyama_Damascus210.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/x6tugipa9/full/)

jacko9
04-01-2016, 09:40 PM
Sucker for a good sale.....
210mm
http://s8.postimg.org/9fugyep39/Toyama_Damascus210.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/x6tugipa9/full/)


Let me know when it goes on BST,

Jack

TheDispossessed
04-01-2016, 09:52 PM
you sir, are officially first in line.

Let me know when it goes on BST,

Jack

YG420
04-01-2016, 10:25 PM
Sucker for a good sale.....
210mm
http://s8.postimg.org/9fugyep39/Toyama_Damascus210.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/x6tugipa9/full/)


Sick! How do you like it? I heard theyre comparable to Kato.

YG420
04-01-2016, 10:26 PM
Also didnt realize hoe polished they come!

aboynamedsuita
04-01-2016, 10:35 PM
Great score on the Toyama Damascus. Doesn't show well I'm my old pic but it looks near identical to the Watanabe Damascus:
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab204/tjangula/Mobile%20Uploads/52EC5168-BD9A-4B35-8F12-F9A9F67880B9_zpsrggilb88.jpg

brainsausage
04-01-2016, 10:36 PM
Sick! How do you like it? I heard theyre comparable to Kato.

I wouldn't compare the two, well not the 'workhorse' version anyways. Never tried the other iterations. Very different profile and grind than the workhorse. They're both heavyweights, but that's really where the comparisons end. Prefer the Toyama myself.

YG420
04-01-2016, 10:40 PM
Great score on the Toyama Damascus. Doesn't show well I'm my old pic but it looks near identical to the Watanabe Damascus:
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab204/tjangula/Mobile%20Uploads/52EC5168-BD9A-4B35-8F12-F9A9F67880B9_zpsrggilb88.jpg

Dope knife! Nice board in the background as well!

YG420
04-01-2016, 10:43 PM
I wouldn't compare the two, well not the 'workhorse' version anyways. Never tried the other iterations. Very different profile and grind than the workhorse. They're both heavyweights, but that's really where the comparisons end. Prefer the Toyama myself.

Thanks for your input! I thought i heard something like Maksim preferred these over shig and kato as well.

aboynamedsuita
04-01-2016, 11:25 PM
Thanks for your input! I thought i heard something like Maksim preferred these over shig and kato as well.

I think chinacats said he prefers Watanabe over Kato, and since Watanabe is similar to Toyama, Toyama may be preferred over Kato.

Better go get that 270mm Toyama Damascus gyuto :running:

TheDispossessed
04-02-2016, 07:47 AM
A little tangential but I kind of wish we'd stop comparing Toyama and Kato and Shig. Aside from the fact that they're all sold by one vendor they really have little in common save that they are kitchen knives. Anyone who jumps on the forum and gets the impression that these knives are somehow variants of each other is way off.

YG420
04-02-2016, 08:14 AM
I think chinacats said he prefers Watanabe over Kato, and since Watanabe is similar to Toyama, Toyama may be preferred over Kato.

Better go get that 270mm Toyama Damascus gyuto :running:

Geeez i have a kato coming in and if my girl saw another knife i might end up in a body bag!

YG420
04-02-2016, 08:15 AM
A little tangential but I kind of wish we'd stop comparing Toyama and Kato and Shig. Aside from the fact that they're all sold by one vendor they really have little in common save that they are kitchen knives. Anyone who jumps on the forum and gets the impression that these knives are somehow variants of each other is way off.

I totally understand that they are totally different knives and toyamas are more like watanabes, but I have a couple Katos that I really like and just wanted to see if anyone can compare the performance of the two thats all.

DamageInc
04-02-2016, 10:41 AM
I totally understand that they are totally different knives and toyamas are more like watanabes, but I have a couple Katos that I really like and just wanted to see if anyone can compare the performance of the two thats all.

I have multiple of both.

Kato is thicker, more belly, not as tall.

Same reactivity. Both have pretty good edge retention. Performance on both is very very good, but also very different. It's a feel kinda thing.

daveb
04-02-2016, 11:01 AM
Have the next one sent to yr work address.

YG420
04-02-2016, 11:05 AM
I have multiple of both.

Kato is thicker, more belly, not as tall.

Same reactivity. Both have pretty good edge retention. Performance on both is very very good, but also very different. It's a feel kinda thing.

Thanks for the info! The height of the Toyama is what kinda concerned me but I hear great things so I may have to try it.

YG420
04-02-2016, 11:06 AM
Have the next one sent to yr work address.

Great idea! My place is staffed 24/7 so someone would always be there to sign off, cant believe I never thought of that. So much wisdom on this forum lol.

alterwisser
04-02-2016, 11:12 AM
Have the next one sent to yr work address.

That's what I do!

Matter of fact, my last email to Robin went something like "don't send it to the billing address or my wife will use it ... And not to cut veggies!"

brainsausage
04-02-2016, 11:36 AM
I have multiple of both.

Kato is thicker, more belly, not as tall.

Same reactivity. Both have pretty good edge retention. Performance on both is very very good, but also very different. It's a feel kinda thing.

Spot on.

panda
04-02-2016, 11:39 AM
Wabi sabi pickled ginger

DamageInc
04-02-2016, 12:00 PM
Thanks for the info! The height of the Toyama is what kinda concerned me but I hear great things so I may have to try it.

The height is perfect on the Toyama for the grind it has. Do try one if you can.

I also have to say that my 300mm Toyama suji is the best suji I have used. Sometimes I even use it for full prep. Despite the length and thickness of the spine, it is still very nimble with fantastic taper and I can easily brunoise shallots or mince garlic with the tip.

I hope that after this sale that Maksim had, more people will get to know about Toyama. It's been a kind of hidden gem for a while.

aboynamedsuita
04-02-2016, 12:07 PM
I also have to say that my 300mm Toyama suji is the best suji I have used. Sometimes I even use it for full prep. Despite the length and thickness of the spine, it is still very nimble with fantastic taper and I can easily brunoise shallots or mince garlic with the tip.

:doublethumbsup:

My 300 Suji is going to arrive on Monday! Looking at the specs I can see how it could be used as a main knife with the ~43mm heel height.

DamageInc
04-02-2016, 12:16 PM
Post pics and give opinions.

I would love to hear if you like yours as much as I like mine.

YG420
04-02-2016, 12:34 PM
The height is perfect on the Toyama for the grind it has. Do try one if you can.

I also have to say that my 300mm Toyama suji is the best suji I have used. Sometimes I even use it for full prep. Despite the length and thickness of the spine, it is still very nimble with fantastic taper and I can easily brunoise shallots or mince garlic with the tip.

I hope that after this sale that Maksim had, more people will get to know about Toyama. It's been a kind of hidden gem for a while.

Yea Ive been wanting to try one, just when Im about to pull the trigger, another knife comes along that i was waiting for. Hopefully Maksim has a sale again and I'll probably pick one up.

mikedtran
04-02-2016, 12:43 PM
Older bigger brother with new smaller younger (newer) brother.

Kitaeji 300mm NOS Yanagiba
Kitaeji 210mm Yanagiba

http://i.imgur.com/zYNtAZ8.jpg

aboynamedsuita
04-02-2016, 12:45 PM
Post pics and give opinions.

I would love to hear if you like yours as much as I like mine.
Will do, I won't be waiting for a custom handle so will be using right away. I may swap for an extra octagonal hō I have at some point, but not right away.



Yea Ive been wanting to try one, just when Im about to pull the trigger, another knife comes along that i was waiting for. Hopefully Maksim has a sale again and I'll probably pick one up.
I always tell myself no but then a sale or some other motivating factor comes along… it's how I got my Toyama mukimono and sujihiki, as well as Itinomonn butcher. Plus as a Canadian buyer it's very easy to do business there.

Casaluz
04-02-2016, 12:55 PM
Older bigger brother with new smaller younger (newer) brother.

Kitaeji 300mm NOS Yanagiba
Kitaeji 210mm Yanagiba

http://i.imgur.com/zYNtAZ8.jpg

So beautiful

mikedtran
04-02-2016, 01:01 PM
So beautiful

Thanks! I was motivated by 2010ZR 210mm Yanagiba and pulled the trigger on the one I had been eyeing =)

YG420
04-02-2016, 01:05 PM
Will do, I won't be waiting for a custom handle so will be using right away. I may swap for an extra octagonal hō I have at some point, but not right away.



I always tell myself no but then a sale or some other motivating factor comes along… it's how I got my Toyama mukimono and sujihiki, as well as Itinomonn butcher. Plus as a Canadian buyer it's very easy to do business there.

So hard to resist! Im just glad all the 210 and 240 damascus are gone so I have an excuse not to buy lol.

YG420
04-02-2016, 01:05 PM
Older bigger brother with new smaller younger (newer) brother.

Kitaeji 300mm NOS Yanagiba
Kitaeji 210mm Yanagiba

http://i.imgur.com/zYNtAZ8.jpg

Very nice! Have you used the 210 yet?

mikedtran
04-02-2016, 01:13 PM
Very nice! Have you used the 210 yet?

Have not used it yet. Probably portion some fish next week. Thinking about using it to trim a roast before cooking? Is that an ok use for a mini yanagiba?

Might mess around with it during a Japanese vegetable preparation class I'm taking later this month.

YG420
04-02-2016, 01:23 PM
Have not used it yet. Probably portion some fish next week. Thinking about using it to trim a roast before cooking? Is that an ok use for a mini yanagiba?

Might mess around with it during a Japanese vegetable preparation class I'm taking later this month.

Yea Im sure you can use it for trimming a roast.

YG420
04-02-2016, 01:24 PM
Dam, now youve given me a reason to get a 210 now ha.

Smurfmacaw
04-02-2016, 04:41 PM
Somebody asked me for a Kato family portrait.

240 damascus with handle by Haburn
240 workhorse with chestnut
210 workhorse handle by HHH
180 standard with handle by Haburn
210 Suji with ebony and silver handle by Maksim

The family has a bun in the oven and expect another soon.

Smurfmacaw
04-02-2016, 04:47 PM
As long as we're posting family photos:

The Kitaeji family:

210 Usuba
300 Yanagiba
300 Takobiki
300 Takobiki
240 Gyuto

Missing in action is a 180 Gyuto, 210 Gyuto, 240 Yanagiba, 180 Nakiri, and a 210 Deba - all Kitaeji...Keeping my fingers crossed on them.

(and before someone notices there are two Tako's, I'm moving one out of the collection soon....and yes, all but the extra tako have patina's. No drawer queens in this house.)

One bun in the oven to arrive next week hopefully.

Smurfmacaw
04-02-2016, 04:51 PM
And finally, the Haburn family:

180 chevron petty
240 damascus Gyuto
240 western mono Gyuto
240 KU Gyuto (this one is my reference cutter and most used knife)

One in the oven - I'm thinking it's going to set a new record in spectacularity.

DamageInc
04-02-2016, 05:03 PM
You should start a gallery.

Smurfmacaw
04-02-2016, 05:08 PM
After the summer buying spree I'll do a full collection photo.

YG420
04-02-2016, 05:15 PM
Somebody asked me for a Kato family portrait.

240 damascus with handle by Haburn
240 workhorse with chestnut
210 workhorse handle by HHH
180 standard with handle by Haburn
210 Suji with ebony and silver handle by Maksim

The family has a bun in the oven and expect another soon.

Beautiful! Im here if you ever want to get rid of that 240 damascus! *fingers crossed

j22582536
04-02-2016, 05:22 PM
After the summer buying spree I'll do a full collection photo.

Can't wait to see that photo! By the way, very impressive collection you got there.

preizzo
04-02-2016, 05:36 PM
The workhorse are bad boys
Love them

JohnnyChance
04-02-2016, 09:32 PM
..

TheDispossessed
04-02-2016, 09:38 PM
MT???

..

brainsausage
04-02-2016, 09:52 PM
MT???

Yep. He's been sending me teaser pics for weeks now, the heartless bastard.

JohnnyChance
04-02-2016, 10:25 PM
Yup. MT.

CB1968
04-02-2016, 10:31 PM
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac177/davidfanning/IMG_4066_zpsmzhfremi.jpg (http://s897.photobucket.com/user/davidfanning/media/IMG_4066_zpsmzhfremi.jpg.html)

CB1968
04-02-2016, 11:01 PM
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac177/davidfanning/IMG_4066_zpsmzhfremi.jpg (http://s897.photobucket.com/user/davidfanning/media/IMG_4066_zpsmzhfremi.jpg.html)

Updated

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac177/davidfanning/IMG_4074_zpsd7e6s6dc.jpg (http://s897.photobucket.com/user/davidfanning/media/IMG_4074_zpsd7e6s6dc.jpg.html)

mikedtran
04-02-2016, 11:08 PM
Those boning/fillet knives looks great!

aboynamedsuita
04-02-2016, 11:38 PM
Somebody asked me for a Kato family portrait.

240 damascus with handle by Haburn
240 workhorse with chestnut
210 workhorse handle by HHH
180 standard with handle by Haburn
210 Suji with ebony and silver handle by Maksim

The family has a bun in the oven and expect another soon.
Love the side by side of the standard vs workhorse, the 210 WH looks like it'd be great (plus Randy's handle doesn't hurt)



As long as we're posting family photos:

The Kitaeji family:

210 Usuba
300 Yanagiba
300 Takobiki
300 Takobiki
240 Gyuto

Missing in action is a 180 Gyuto, 210 Gyuto, 240 Yanagiba, 180 Nakiri, and a 210 Deba - all Kitaeji...Keeping my fingers crossed on them.

(and before someone notices there are two Tako's, I'm moving one out of the collection soon....and yes, all but the extra tako have patina's. No drawer queens in this house.)

One bun in the oven to arrive next week hopefully.
The blonde/marble horn on the takobiki looks awesome, and the gyuto looks familiar too. I'm also keeping my fingers crossed for the both of us



And finally, the Haburn family:

180 chevron petty
240 damascus Gyuto
240 western mono Gyuto
240 KU Gyuto (this one is my reference cutter and most used knife)

One in the oven - I'm thinking it's going to set a new record in spectacularity.
You can call me OCD, but that western handle looks out of place… you should let it go ;-)

Smurfmacaw
04-03-2016, 12:28 AM
Love the side by side of the standard vs workhorse, the 210 WH looks like it'd be great (plus Randy's handle doesn't hurt)



The blonde/marble horn on the takobiki looks awesome, and the gyuto looks familiar too. I'm also keeping my fingers crossed for the both of us



You can call me OCD, but that western handle looks out of place… you should let it go ;-)

Yeah, I'm going to let the western go....blade is awesome but I just like wa handles better, especially the Kite handles.....best feeling handles I have. Guess I have to stop being lazy! Marble horn tako is a keeper. Have sold the other already pending funds. Sold it for what I paid for it.....just not an entrepreneur in the knife business.

aboynamedsuita
04-03-2016, 05:32 PM
I'm sure the western Haburn would go no problem on BST. The marble horn on the shig would make me think twice about rehandling it

mikedtran
04-03-2016, 06:52 PM
I'll just leave this here:

http://i.imgur.com/0E1UKC7.jpg?1

aboynamedsuita
04-03-2016, 06:55 PM
That's a lot of shigs :bigeek:

Brijac
04-03-2016, 07:07 PM
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/12898213_10153307928776899_6311044283072185548_o.j pg
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/t31.0-8/12795011_10153307936056899_8513069493502493472_o.j pg

mikedtran
04-03-2016, 07:10 PM
That's a lot of shigs :bigeek:

One is coming your way! =)

This is the set I'm keeping, everything else has been sold / is going on BST in a couple minutes:
http://i.imgur.com/GQoLX82.jpg

TheDispossessed
04-03-2016, 07:37 PM
240mm nakiri?
Watermelon sword!
One is coming your way! =)

This is the set I'm keeping, everything else has been sold / is going on BST in a couple minutes:
http://i.imgur.com/GQoLX82.jpg

mikedtran
04-03-2016, 07:44 PM
240mm nakiri?
Watermelon sword!

It is a "210mm" but takes at about 220mm.

I just used it to take down a spaghetti squash.

orvalus
04-03-2016, 11:15 PM
Relatively new on this forum as a registered user but I've been lurking around for a long time.
I'm very grateful for all the awesome info I'm finding here.

My daughter picked these four knives for me on her trip to Japan.
The first two from the top (230 mm and 130 mm) were bought from Kamata in Tokyo and I believe they are the store brand, Togiharu (It is just a guess).
The next two (190 mm and 180 mm) were bought in Kyoto from Shigeharu.

http://i.imgur.com/CsHxqxq.jpg

Sukenari Honyaki White #1 Gyoto, 240mm, I picked on my recent trip to Singapore.
It looks like this knives is engraved with someone's name on it? I see some extra Japanese characters above of the Sukenari.
It would be great if someone that know Japanese could tell me what that extra writing is.

http://i.imgur.com/k8P5iWe.jpg

Badgertooth
04-04-2016, 12:16 AM
Relatively new on this forum as a registered user but I've been lurking around for a long time.
I'm very grateful for all the awesome info I'm finding here.

My daughter picked these four knives for me on her trip to Japan.
The first two from the top (230 mm and 130 mm) were bought from Kamata in Tokyo and I believe they are the store brand, Togiharu (It is just a guess).
The next two (190 mm and 180 mm) were bought in Kyoto from Shigeharu.

http://i.imgur.com/CsHxqxq.jpg

Sukenari Honyaki White #1 Gyoto, 240mm, I picked on my recent trip to Singapore.
It looks like this knives is engraved with someone's name on it? I see some extra Japanese characters above of the Sukenari.
It would be great if someone that know Japanese could tell me what that extra writing is.

http://i.imgur.com/k8P5iWe.jpg

You have an awesome daughter sir

mikedtran
04-04-2016, 12:17 AM
Great shots and welcome to the forums!

I'm sure someone can come along and help you with the Kanji though you might want to make a separate thread our post it in Kanji Help: http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/showthread.php/9963-kanji/page4

XooMG
04-04-2016, 12:39 AM
Hard to read the very top one due to the pic, but it might be 純 (pure), the next three are 日本鋼 (Japanese steel).

Badgertooth
04-04-2016, 12:55 AM
One is coming your way! =)

This is the set I'm keeping, everything else has been sold / is going on BST in a couple minutes:
http://i.imgur.com/GQoLX82.jpg

Hey Mike,

What is the last knife on the knife before the kogatana?

And good on you for releasing the others to the wild.

mikedtran
04-04-2016, 01:04 AM
Hey Mike,

What is the last knife on the knife before the kogatana?

And good on you for releasing the others to the wild.

150mm Petty =)

The knives are going to good homes - some to other Shig Fanatics and even a little Shig "starter kit" to a member I believe is without Shigs.

ynot1985
04-04-2016, 01:04 AM
Hey Mike,

What is the last knife on the knife before the kogatana?

And good on you for releasing the others to the wild.

looks like the KU150mm petty

easy13
04-04-2016, 01:42 AM
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/12898213_10153307928776899_6311044283072185548_o.j pg
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/t31.0-8/12795011_10153307936056899_8513069493502493472_o.j pg




Nice Karlo Ban, I have a Sanmai Suji from him that is fun as hell to use

TheDispossessed
04-04-2016, 07:22 AM
I know I already showed this one off. It's super hard to get a good shot of the cladding because of the high polish on this knife. It makes the Damascus a little more subtle, which I like, but I might play around with the finish. Please forgive the poor photography, low light and iPhone 6s camera aren't a great combo.

http://s8.postimg.org/lpbubhvsl/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/qnzcq0zld/full/)

krx927
04-04-2016, 08:07 AM
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/12898213_10153307928776899_6311044283072185548_o.j pg
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/t31.0-8/12795011_10153307936056899_8513069493502493472_o.j pg

Any possibility of a choil shot?

aboynamedsuita
04-04-2016, 01:14 PM
Sukenari Honyaki White #1 Gyoto, 240mm, I picked on my recent trip to Singapore.
It looks like this knives is engraved with someone's name on it? I see some extra Japanese characters above of the Sukenari.
It would be great if someone that know Japanese could tell me what that extra writing is.

http://i.imgur.com/k8P5iWe.jpg


Hard to read the very top one due to the pic, but it might be 純 (pure), the next three are 日本鋼 (Japanese steel).

XooMG is correct, I had it on my 240, and am expecting it will be on my 270. I asked Koki at JCK what it meant some time ago because I had seen the knife "to go" without it. Here is a quote about the hand engraved kanji on Sukenari honyaki:


I have seen some Sukenari knives with the stamped kanji only sold
in USA, but in Japan (JCK website) they also have etched kanji above the stamped. Can you tell what each translates to in English?


Thank you very much for your update and confirmation.

About Sukenari Engraving
Sukenari Honyaki knives comes with the Hand Engraving Kanji which means “Pure Japanese Carbon Steel” 純日本鋼

Sukenari Honyaki knives are made of pure Shirogami No.1 (white steel #1) and put this special engraving words on the Honyaki knives.

We hope above information will help your confirmation. If you will have any questions, please let us know and help.

Thank you very much again for your interest and confirmation.

Badgertooth
04-05-2016, 01:38 AM
There's gonna be a few of these after people filled their boots at the JNS sale but...

Kerthunk!

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/Badgertooth/Mobile%20Uploads/B072F0A9-8075-49A0-B0EC-3F36803FABC8_zpsgqfzqzo9.jpg (http://s1038.photobucket.com/user/Badgertooth/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B072F0A9-8075-49A0-B0EC-3F36803FABC8_zpsgqfzqzo9.jpg.html)

What an actual beast

Badgertooth
04-05-2016, 01:39 AM
Toyama 270mm Kasumi gyuto

lifeis11
04-05-2016, 02:08 AM
Yeah, I'm going to let the western go....


Western haburn coming to BST you say……

:hungry:

jimbob
04-05-2016, 03:46 AM
31406
Toyamas single bevels are pretty solid too. 180 deba and mukimono.

Badgertooth
04-05-2016, 04:56 AM
31406
Toyamas single bevels are pretty solid too. 180 deba and mukimono.

Right new rule:

Must have proof of Shig ownership for entry visa for Aus.

Receipt and sworn affidavit of Toyama ownership gets you into NZ.

brainsausage
04-05-2016, 11:43 AM
31406
Toyamas single bevels are pretty solid too. 180 deba and mukimono.

I came this close to picking up that mukimono, but didn't because I knew I'd never actually use it. But still...

Brijac
04-05-2016, 01:57 PM
Any possibility of a choil shot?

http://i.imgur.com/PAFUk1jh.jpg

@easy13
Yeah, this knife is awesome. Silver steel core takes a screaming sharp edge and holds it that way :)

spoiledbroth
04-05-2016, 02:36 PM
Silver steel?

bkultra
04-05-2016, 02:42 PM
Silver steel?

Japanese term for stainless steel or stain resistant

RDalman
04-05-2016, 02:43 PM
Silver steel -bohler k510 right?

Mucho Bocho
04-05-2016, 02:51 PM
I thought silver three was Hitachi Ginsanko/Ginsan?

XooMG
04-05-2016, 02:52 PM
Silver steel -bohler k510 right?
110WCrV5 apparently, so a bit different. K510 is 115CrV3.

I thought silver three was Hitachi Ginsanko/Ginsan?
Silver steel is a marketing name for a whole lot of different steels used through the last century at least in Europe and are not necessarily similar to the Hitachi Silver series stainless.

They are often low alloy steels and not stainless.

bkultra
04-05-2016, 02:54 PM
I thought silver three was Hitachi Ginsanko/Ginsan?

It is ...

Ginsanko – Made up of Carbon: .95%, Chromium: 13.00 – 14.50%, Manganese: .60 – 1.00%, Phosphorus: .030%, Sulfur: .020%, Silicon: .35

Brijac
04-05-2016, 03:17 PM
It's a ww2 russian steel, not in production anymore, basically the same steel as hitachi blue #1. All in all awesome as hell steel :)

Here's some video of it.

https://youtu.be/yHkYEHVzwAs

glestain
04-05-2016, 04:00 PM
That's brutal!

berko
04-05-2016, 04:17 PM
awesome test.

spoiledbroth
04-06-2016, 12:58 AM
It's a ww2 russian steel, not in production anymore, basically the same steel as hitachi blue #1. All in all awesome as hell steel :)

Here's some video of it.

https://youtu.be/yHkYEHVzwAs

thanks for your information/clarification :)

XooMG
04-06-2016, 01:29 AM
It's a ww2 russian steel, not in production anymore, basically the same steel as hitachi blue #1. All in all awesome as hell steel :)

Here's some video of it.

https://youtu.be/yHkYEHVzwAs
Closer to Blue #2 actually, but with more Cr and some V.

Brijac
04-06-2016, 04:57 AM
http://imgur.com/5ty3CLF,2pma3cl,In92BcJ take a look, carbon content much more simmilar to #1. But to me it's like a child that takes the best from both parents :D

XooMG
04-06-2016, 06:18 AM
http://imgur.com/5ty3CLF,2pma3cl,In92BcJ take a look, carbon content much more simmilar to #1. But to me it's like a child that takes the best from both parents :D
You can believe what you wish and enjoy it in good health.

Benuser
04-06-2016, 12:05 PM
http://s19.postimg.org/y6hl8icbn/DSC_0005.jpg
Robert Herder 1922 Tranchelard (slicer), 21cm

joshsy81
04-06-2016, 03:47 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3863upgolpjfi4l/2016-03-07%2017.07.12.jpg?dl=0
Gesshin Kagekiyo 240 B1 Gyuto

jacko9
04-06-2016, 06:33 PM
I know I already showed this one off. It's super hard to get a good shot of the cladding because of the high polish on this knife. It makes the Damascus a little more subtle, which I like, but I might play around with the finish. Please forgive the poor photography, low light and iPhone 6s camera aren't a great combo.

http://s8.postimg.org/lpbubhvsl/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/qnzcq0zld/full/)

Actually if the shading shows the actual grind contour lines - that is one of the best knife photo's I've ever seen. There is so much discussion about different grinds but, unless you handle the knife what you are showing (I presume) is great information. What knife is that?

Jack

aboynamedsuita
04-06-2016, 06:48 PM
Actually if the shading shows the actual grind contour lines - that is one of the best knife photo's I've ever seen. There is so much discussion about different grinds but, unless you handle the knife what you are showing (I presume) is great information. What knife is that?

Jack

Looks like the Damascus Toyama

TheDispossessed
04-06-2016, 06:55 PM
So the big shadow towards the heel is part of someone's house from outside, the darkness on the front of the blade is patina. The grind is certainly great on this knife but I doubt it runs anywhere near that high up. All preliminary tests are very positive in terms of performance, and yes Tanner is right it's a Damascus Toyama 210.
Cheers
Matteo

Actually if the shading shows the actual grind contour lines - that is one of the best knife photo's I've ever seen. There is so much discussion about different grinds but, unless you handle the knife what you are showing (I presume) is great information. What knife is that?

Jack

jacko9
04-06-2016, 08:07 PM
So the big shadow towards the heel is part of someone's house from outside, the darkness on the front of the blade is patina. The grind is certainly great on this knife but I doubt it runs anywhere near that high up. All preliminary tests are very positive in terms of performance, and yes Tanner is right it's a Damascus Toyama 210.
Cheers
Matteo

Oh well, I guess my imagination got the better of me ;-)

aboynamedsuita
04-06-2016, 09:04 PM
Since we're on the topic of Toyama… here's my 300 Kasumi sujihiki I just got
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab204/tjangula/knife/0FB9951A-2B9F-45EB-BE6F-0FCF4665FCD1_zpsenptuzut.jpg
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab204/tjangula/knife/B7AB701A-F584-4DB7-8E5D-6D41FB333BA3_zpsooapeysq.jpg

Smurfmacaw
04-06-2016, 10:23 PM
Gonna be kind of a southpaw jedi with that thing! Sweet knife.

malexthekid
04-07-2016, 06:35 PM
Birthday present from my wife. Was originally going to be a half dozen of very nice wine but we hadn't made it out to the winery and Mert still had this bad boy for sale.

http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r606/malexthekid/Knives/IMG_20160407_210450_zpsmkaqtaxw.jpg (http://s1174.photobucket.com/user/malexthekid/media/Knives/IMG_20160407_210450_zpsmkaqtaxw.jpg.html)

Feels great in the hand. Only used it to dice some shallots so far.

And a couple of family photos.

http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r606/malexthekid/Knives/IMG_20160407_211501_zpsol2dgp5b.jpg (http://s1174.photobucket.com/user/malexthekid/media/Knives/IMG_20160407_211501_zpsol2dgp5b.jpg.html)

http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r606/malexthekid/Knives/IMG_20160407_211620_zpsoufnvgst.jpg (http://s1174.photobucket.com/user/malexthekid/media/Knives/IMG_20160407_211620_zpsoufnvgst.jpg.html)

lifeis11
04-07-2016, 06:40 PM
Birthday present from my wife. Was originally going to be a half dozen of very nice wine but we hadn't made it out to the winery and Mert still had this bad boy for sale.

http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r606/malexthekid/Knives/IMG_20160407_210450_zpsmkaqtaxw.jpg (http://s1174.photobucket.com/user/malexthekid/media/Knives/IMG_20160407_210450_zpsmkaqtaxw.jpg.html)

Feels great in the hand. Only used it to dice some shallots so far.

And a couple of family photos.

http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r606/malexthekid/Knives/IMG_20160407_211501_zpsol2dgp5b.jpg (http://s1174.photobucket.com/user/malexthekid/media/Knives/IMG_20160407_211501_zpsol2dgp5b.jpg.html)

http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r606/malexthekid/Knives/IMG_20160407_211620_zpsoufnvgst.jpg (http://s1174.photobucket.com/user/malexthekid/media/Knives/IMG_20160407_211620_zpsoufnvgst.jpg.html)



gorgeous! this from Mert's latest email blast? I MAY have a knife coming from that batch as well...:cool2:

malexthekid
04-07-2016, 06:59 PM
gorgeous! this from Mert's latest email blast? I MAY have a knife coming from that batch as well...:cool2:

It most definitely is. Which one did you pick up?

lifeis11
04-07-2016, 07:06 PM
the suji - i looked long and hard at this one as well. i had originally made a deal with myself that i wouldnt buy one unless it was a chef/gyuto, but then i saw that suji....

and now im :hungry: and my bank account is :( lol

malexthekid
04-07-2016, 07:31 PM
Haha. This is my first non-gyuto high end knife. Have been considering a petty for ages but funds/timing never lines up until now.

I must admit that suji was screaming at me but my significant other would not jave gone there without substantial spending on bling for her birthday

lifeis11
04-07-2016, 07:37 PM
which is a pretty reasonable position to take on her part! haha.

Well i hope you enjoy that petty, man. she's a beaut!

rami_m
04-07-2016, 10:07 PM
Deleted.

rami_m
04-07-2016, 10:14 PM
http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s651/rami/08F817BA-5195-4776-A00D-660543676C82_zpsisyz2jpr.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/rami/media/08F817BA-5195-4776-A00D-660543676C82_zpsisyz2jpr.jpg.html)

http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s651/rami/4B128B77-B56E-4F37-95A0-1F9913A937B8_zpsgoipx8me.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/rami/media/4B128B77-B56E-4F37-95A0-1F9913A937B8_zpsgoipx8me.jpg.html)

http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s651/rami/ED267A26-8E5D-498C-AC8B-8D465B31F06B_zpsro4yb3ss.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/rami/media/ED267A26-8E5D-498C-AC8B-8D465B31F06B_zpsro4yb3ss.jpg.html)
http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s651/rami/B427DDD5-AD5A-42A4-8B85-22E34372B1AE_zpsity8idex.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/rami/media/B427DDD5-AD5A-42A4-8B85-22E34372B1AE_zpsity8idex.jpg.html)
http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s651/rami/A9B2C37E-1B4F-4B1E-A45F-EAFE5B447245_zpsqikuhgep.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/rami/media/A9B2C37E-1B4F-4B1E-A45F-EAFE5B447245_zpsqikuhgep.jpg.html)
http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s651/rami/86246BBC-6EC1-4AFF-9DB1-C9097EA9D739_zpsyyr4lprd.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/rami/media/86246BBC-6EC1-4AFF-9DB1-C9097EA9D739_zpsyyr4lprd.jpg.html)

Couple of new ones ;)

rami_m
04-07-2016, 10:17 PM
Food release is very good considering how thin they are.

Mute-on
04-07-2016, 10:18 PM
Way to go Rami! Very nice work by Mert :)

Specs?

lifeis11
04-07-2016, 10:27 PM
wow it's raining mert's in here today!

rami_m
04-07-2016, 10:28 PM
Way to go Rami! Very nice work by Mert :)

Specs?

Will have to dig them up once I am home. They are San mai construction using 52100 and takefu core steel and stainless cladding. The wa one is extremely thin at the spine but need to get measurements.

Here is the family photo

http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s651/rami/Mobile%20Uploads/2CD6C30D-8FDD-41F5-BE17-D8F1DC1F0E72_zps2r9lur8v.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/rami/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2CD6C30D-8FDD-41F5-BE17-D8F1DC1F0E72_zps2r9lur8v.jpg.html)

malexthekid
04-07-2016, 11:21 PM
His amboya western handles are just magical. And love the dammie

turbochef422
04-07-2016, 11:22 PM
Nice score. I love Mert's work. He's gotten really good what feels like really fast.

kevpenbanc
04-08-2016, 03:27 AM
Will have to dig them up once I am home. They are San mai construction using 52100 and takefu core steel and stainless cladding. The wa one is extremely thin at the spine but need to get measurements.

Here is the family photo

http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s651/rami/Mobile%20Uploads/2CD6C30D-8FDD-41F5-BE17-D8F1DC1F0E72_zps2r9lur8v.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/rami/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2CD6C30D-8FDD-41F5-BE17-D8F1DC1F0E72_zps2r9lur8v.jpg.html)

Nice collection Rami.

ynot1985
04-08-2016, 03:44 AM
Is the 2nd one from top the starry nights one that Mert was referring to on Instagram recently?

rami_m
04-08-2016, 03:47 AM
Is the 2nd one from top the starry nights one that Mert was referring to on Instagram recently?

Yep.

ryanjams
04-10-2016, 05:46 AM
picked up this nakiri at the oregon knife show today, though I don't know a thing about it.. can anyone help me out?
http://i.imgur.com/rveGe1m.jpg

preizzo
04-10-2016, 06:40 AM
Look nice 😄
Sorry can't help you, I never saw that kanji before 😌

donnaGFields
04-10-2016, 06:42 AM
Just ordered a Victorinox Swiss Classic 4-Inch Paring Knife. Is there anybody who has used it? I need honest opinion.

XooMG
04-10-2016, 06:43 AM
picked up this nakiri at the oregon knife show today, though I don't know a thing about it.. can anyone help me out?
http://i.imgur.com/rveGe1m.jpg
It's a Kikuichimonji nakiri. Probably White #2.

lobby
04-10-2016, 10:54 AM
Just ordered a Victorinox Swiss Classic 4-Inch Paring Knife. Is there anybody who has used it? I need honest opinion.

These are meant to be abused, lent out to your dish washer, lost, stolen, rinse and repeat. Not bad little parers. 4" is a little longer than I prefer for a paring knife though.

ryanjams
04-10-2016, 08:02 PM
It's a Kikuichimonji nakiri. Probably White #2.


Thanks, looks like it was worth my money at least

MontezumaBoy
04-10-2016, 08:06 PM
Original had a nice, albeit slightly narrow, Wa handle but it had a cracked ferrule so off to Ian Haburn it went after I decided I really, really liked the ZDP-189 (which is solid ZDP) and profile ...

Original (under DT ITK) handle;

http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r731/BigMontyBoy/DSC09287_zpsr2asasn3.jpg (http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/BigMontyBoy/media/DSC09287_zpsr2asasn3.jpg.html)

New

http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r731/BigMontyBoy/ta.1.1_zps1idly1kz.jpg (http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/BigMontyBoy/media/ta.1.1_zps1idly1kz.jpg.html)

http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r731/BigMontyBoy/ta.1.3_zpscpg1rqik.jpg (http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/BigMontyBoy/media/ta.1.3_zpscpg1rqik.jpg.html)

I have to say Ian's knives are works of art (& function) but his handles are equally impressive ... when he can squeeze in some time to do rehandles!

Chicagohawkie
04-12-2016, 02:48 AM
Original had a nice, albeit slightly narrow, Wa handle but it had a cracked ferrule so off to Ian Haburn it went after I decided I really, really liked the ZDP-189 (which is solid ZDP) and profile ...

Original (under DT ITK) handle;

http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r731/BigMontyBoy/DSC09287_zpsr2asasn3.jpg (http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/BigMontyBoy/media/DSC09287_zpsr2asasn3.jpg.html)

New

http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r731/BigMontyBoy/ta.1.1_zps1idly1kz.jpg (http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/BigMontyBoy/media/ta.1.1_zps1idly1kz.jpg.html)

http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r731/BigMontyBoy/ta.1.3_zpscpg1rqik.jpg (http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/BigMontyBoy/media/ta.1.3_zpscpg1rqik.jpg.html)

I have to say Ian's knives are works of art (& function) but his handles are equally impressive ... when he can squeeze in some time to do rehandles!



Did that Kono come with that verticle scratch pattern? Did they just release a zdp line?

fujiyama
04-12-2016, 11:22 AM
Konosuke made the ZDP around 2011. The scratch pattern is normal, Sukenari ZDP and others have it.

MontezumaBoy
04-12-2016, 11:33 AM
+1
Konosuke made the ZDP around 2011. The scratch pattern is normal, Sukenari ZDP and others have it.

This one is from 2013 but I bought it later here on B/S/T. The pattern is typical for the knife. They didn't make many, especially in the solid, since the material was (is) pricey.

spoiledbroth
04-12-2016, 11:44 AM
One would think actually those knives are more often clad for the sake of maintenance ie sharpening which in the case of a pm steel I would assume would be more of a boon than a bane

easy13
04-12-2016, 02:53 PM
Opening new place, will be doing mostly expo/finishing plates in a tight space, needed some new smaller pieces to team up with 210s,shorter sujis/yanagis

- 180 Tesshu Petty
- 150 Watanabe (Pretty much a mini gyuto, sick finish on it)
- 150 Uraku White 2 Petty (Nice little blade for the price)

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i64/KidAnkles/IMG_8326.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/KidAnkles/media/IMG_8326.jpg.html)

F-Flash
04-12-2016, 03:48 PM
Nice looking little ones! Love that watanabe!

spoiledbroth
04-12-2016, 07:17 PM
Opening new place, will be doing mostly expo/finishing plates in a tight space, needed some new smaller pieces to team up with 210s,shorter sujis/yanagis

- 180 Tesshu Petty
- 150 Watanabe (Pretty much a mini gyuto, sick finish on it)
- 150 Uraku White 2 Petty (Nice little blade for the price)

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i64/KidAnkles/IMG_8326.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/KidAnkles/media/IMG_8326.jpg.html)

is this the tesshu 180 in ginsanko? would love to hear about the knife if it is....

Dardeau
04-12-2016, 07:21 PM
The Watanabe kurouchi is my favorite.

Pensacola Tiger
04-12-2016, 07:47 PM
The boning knife was just delivered, joining the others:

31491

mikedtran
04-12-2016, 08:07 PM
That boning knife is bad-ass!

Mute-on
04-12-2016, 08:24 PM
That boning knife is bad-ass!

You said it!

easy13
04-12-2016, 08:52 PM
is this the tesshu 180 in ginsanko? would love to hear about the knife if it is....

Yeah, Tesshu Ginsanko, got in in yesterday, put it through some light stuff today. So far - nice knife, quality handle, solid F&F, rounded choil with slight machi gap. As mentioned before about these - what appears to be a wide bevel is more of a finish but a nice one at that. Reminds me of a Suisin Inox Honyaki but stiffer/more robust with a slightly larger handle. Out the box edge was mehh, cant speak on edge holding or sharpening because I haven't used much. Ripped through light veg and sliced nicely, I had a tendency to use a pinch grip with one finger up on spine for tasks. Seems to be a fun one to use and fits what Im looking for perfectly. There isn't an abundance of 180 petty/slicers out there to chose from so cant judge it against a lot, but so far so good

spoiledbroth
04-12-2016, 09:04 PM
Ah great thanks for your thoughts. Regarding the wide bevel, I kind of expected this since word on the boards is they're made by the same crew as konosuke Fujiyama unless I am mixing things up. Hope it serves you well!

Badgertooth
04-13-2016, 03:12 AM
Opening new place, will be doing mostly expo/finishing plates in a tight space, needed some new smaller pieces to team up with 210s,shorter sujis/yanagis

- 180 Tesshu Petty
- 150 Watanabe (Pretty much a mini gyuto, sick finish on it)
- 150 Uraku White 2 Petty (Nice little blade for the price)

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i64/KidAnkles/IMG_8326.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/KidAnkles/media/IMG_8326.jpg.html)

I love the tenugui from Watanabe. It's the little things.

Looks like an awesome little trio.

KitchenCommander
04-13-2016, 09:35 AM
Picked up this 240 Ichimonji from the sale section. Great knife, with nice grind. My first knife with blue steel, so I am eager to try it out. It performed quite well on all the produce pictured, and gets very sharp. I really like stainless clad carbon knives, now my second with my 165 Yuki Bunka. This one is the heaviest of the knives I currently own, which I like. My Kotetsu R2 laser Gyuto is very light, and doesn't have much spine to grab on to. I may start favoring knives wit more geometry and weight, or maybe I just need to try out a western handled laser, as the Wa handle laser almost feels flimsy due to thin spine.
http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s571/BladeCommander/7A542606-8AEB-4B8C-9355-D503986760BC_zpsdzbgjla7.jpg (http://s1306.photobucket.com/user/BladeCommander/media/7A542606-8AEB-4B8C-9355-D503986760BC_zpsdzbgjla7.jpg.html)

Sorry for the mini review, back to the photos of pretty knives.

http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s571/BladeCommander/78AF9EF9-FA98-496A-8B86-D3EB8515F0D9_zps2evawrur.jpg (http://s1306.photobucket.com/user/BladeCommander/media/78AF9EF9-FA98-496A-8B86-D3EB8515F0D9_zps2evawrur.jpg.html)

preizzo
04-13-2016, 11:24 AM
That knife in the beginning was mine, I sold it to buy the version with ebony handle and sadly was sold out.
I missing it a lot 😂😂😢😢

ggg16902002
04-13-2016, 01:16 PM
Just arrived:

An integral Persian chef knife crafted by Rodrigo Sfreddo (MS).

The damascus composite pattern is called "Interrupted Twist".(125Cr1, 15N20).
With desert Ironwood handle, a horizontal tang and a split rear end.

Overall length is 400mm (15.75").
Weight is 448g.
The edge measures 265mm (10.43"). It is 46.5mm (1.83") high at the heel.
The spine is 5.49mm at the heel and 1.05mm at the tip.

http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-3_zpsrpxkn4j0.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-3_zpsrpxkn4j0.jpg.html)
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-4_zpsk4y7kn0l.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-4_zpsk4y7kn0l.jpg.html)
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20chef_zpss8qhhxh5.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20chef_zpss8qhhxh5.jpg.html)
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-2_zpsej6mgomd.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-2_zpsej6mgomd.jpg.html)

DamageInc
04-13-2016, 01:41 PM
That looks absolutely crazy.

berko
04-13-2016, 02:14 PM
That knife in the beginning was mine, I sold it to buy the version with ebony handle and sadly was sold out.
I missing it a lot 😂😂😢😢

http://i1363.photobucket.com/albums/r714/skillionaire1/IMG_7181_zps8aayoego.jpg (http://s1363.photobucket.com/user/skillionaire1/media/IMG_7181_zps8aayoego.jpg.html)

http://i1363.photobucket.com/albums/r714/skillionaire1/IMG_7221_zpsusk7sfxy.jpg (http://s1363.photobucket.com/user/skillionaire1/media/IMG_7221_zpsusk7sfxy.jpg.html)

sorry...

AllanP
04-13-2016, 02:34 PM
Holy Shiatsu that Damascus is insane.

MontezumaBoy
04-13-2016, 02:36 PM
One would think actually those knives are more often clad for the sake of maintenance ie sharpening which in the case of a pm steel I would assume would be more of a boon than a bane

Not sure really regarding the cladding in terms of blade design ... Ultimately whether you sharpen the primary steel (core) in a clad or solid configuration you are still sharpening the core steel regardless of the through thickness but thinner may be more user friendly TBD. I just like to look at it as my own "ZDP-189 Honyaki" silly but hey what else are we doing around here but trying to see what is out there that is bloody sharp, pretty &/or what not ... anyway back to other knife porn ...

MontezumaBoy
04-13-2016, 02:37 PM
Stunning! Really out of this world / thanks so much for sharing these!


Just arrived:

An integral Persian chef knife crafted by Rodrigo Sfreddo (MS).

The damascus composite pattern is called "Interrupted Twist".(125Cr1, 15N20).
With desert Ironwood handle, a horizontal tang and a split rear end.

Overall length is 400mm (15.75").
Weight is 448g.
The edge measures 265mm (10.43"). It is 46.5mm (1.83") high at the heel.
The spine is 5.49mm at the heel and 1.05mm at the tip.

http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-3_zpsrpxkn4j0.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-3_zpsrpxkn4j0.jpg.html)
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-4_zpsk4y7kn0l.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-4_zpsk4y7kn0l.jpg.html)
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20chef_zpss8qhhxh5.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20chef_zpss8qhhxh5.jpg.html)
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-2_zpsej6mgomd.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-2_zpsej6mgomd.jpg.html)

NotThinEnough
04-13-2016, 11:59 PM
interesting damascus for sure. also interesting profile. I wonder if its the pattern playing some tricks on my eyes but this chef knife has a re-curve edge profile..



Just arrived:

An integral Persian chef knife crafted by Rodrigo Sfreddo (MS).

The damascus composite pattern is called "Interrupted Twist".(125Cr1, 15N20).
With desert Ironwood handle, a horizontal tang and a split rear end.

Overall length is 400mm (15.75").
Weight is 448g.
The edge measures 265mm (10.43"). It is 46.5mm (1.83") high at the heel.
The spine is 5.49mm at the heel and 1.05mm at the tip.

http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-3_zpsrpxkn4j0.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-3_zpsrpxkn4j0.jpg.html)
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-4_zpsk4y7kn0l.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-4_zpsk4y7kn0l.jpg.html)
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20chef_zpss8qhhxh5.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20chef_zpss8qhhxh5.jpg.html)
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y386/ggg16902002/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-2_zpsej6mgomd.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/ggg16902002/media/Rodrigo%20Sfreddo/Persian%20Chef-2_zpsej6mgomd.jpg.html)

XooMG
04-14-2016, 03:15 AM
interesting damascus for sure. also interesting profile. I wonder if its the pattern playing some tricks on my eyes but this chef knife has a re-curve edge profile..
Yep looks recurve. I am sure there's a culinary knife tradition that can make use of it somewhere, but it looks more like the function was an afterthought.

chefcomesback
04-14-2016, 03:34 AM
Yep looks recurve. I am sure there's a culinary knife tradition that can make use of it somewhere, but it looks more like the function was an afterthought.

It looks like sabatier yatagan slicer that was inspired by Turkish short swords with a recurved edge

preizzo
04-14-2016, 03:57 AM
Damm you berko 😣😣😣😣😣😣

XooMG
04-14-2016, 04:17 AM
It looks like sabatier yatagan slicer that was inspired by Turkish short swords with a recurved edge
You have any pics of unsharpened sab yataghans? I only saw a few pics and there was no recurve, the spine profile was more of a clip rather than a drop, the height was less, and the tip was much higher.

bonestter
04-14-2016, 03:28 PM
Brand new

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4L6jkluZffs/Vw_ubMi_53I/AAAAAAAADEA/HTITttlfGasz1L5grRICvtwI11ez2OTlQCCo/s1024-Ic42/P1050777.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nIpEHH4Je-k/Vw_ugDvE4rI/AAAAAAAADEE/tp0UG7sgvxQsSxmNxXu6y9g8sJxewjAiACCo/s1024-Ic42/P1050780.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PNTShrqetZM/Vw_uURQnt0I/AAAAAAAADEI/SldHAI6_W7I-Om1TiF2H1JLT2H6Ni8j7QCCo/s1024-Ic42/P1050778.JPG

lifeis11
04-14-2016, 03:35 PM
nice. pins look pretty flush to me....or was the criticism that the handle tends to shrink over time?

in any case, I have been tempted to pick up one of these multiple times. kudos.

fujiyama
04-14-2016, 03:37 PM
Nice Kramer! What length is she? I want to get my hands on a 10".


interesting damascus for sure. also interesting profile. I wonder if its the pattern playing some tricks on my eyes but this chef knife has a re-curve edge profile..
I noticed the same thing. I didn't mention it because it's labeled "Persian" chef's knife, and frankly, I know nothing about Persian knives. Looks more suited for slicing, but I tend to agree, it's wasn't made to be functional.

lifeis11
04-14-2016, 03:53 PM
I want to get my hands on a 10".

my thoughts exactly :hungry:

bonestter
04-14-2016, 03:56 PM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UfoITKPjA-s/Vw_1KHwgyTI/AAAAAAAADEY/m7nvrShnLPwSiMuAIDrM-DmpHulAuS8pQCCo/s1152-Ic42/P1050794.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5L432aG_18E/Vw_1TE5euYI/AAAAAAAADEc/CqFm9vrXtRwB1LV5La2xBOW7WrBoYs6kwCCo/s1280-Ic42/P1050792.JPG

Thanks

She's an 8" carbon

Here's my 10" stainless alongside the Kono HD2

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M3pFH_FWMoA/VnWVHZtpKWI/AAAAAAAACTI/LeN-6BAi0JU8WdFe2wRdMTCzXwV1PU6gwCCo/s1024-Ic42/DSC_1051%255B1%255D.JPG

bonestter
04-14-2016, 04:01 PM
And why not throw in the Meiji while we're on :)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YIWwJbtwETs/Vr35FekGqII/AAAAAAAACzg/LQOT8mpW7UkiFZaOh0h98EHBx8-o1UgJgCCo/s1280-Ic42/IMG_6320.jpg

YG420
04-15-2016, 11:25 AM
Just received a Shigefusa Kitaeji 180 deba thanks to ms4awd

http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/4CA36A1B-AB1D-414E-8B2E-9756084CD279_zpsmuh6qeri.jpg

and a big shotout to F-Flash for this Kato Kikuryu 240 gyuto

http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/54498CA4-97FA-4FDF-87FD-DA272C1BD3D7_zpsyb22nroi.jpg
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/D11FA7F0-039B-41CA-AF39-8AFC9A8EC249_zps0s8fgba1.jpg
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p630/YG420/KNIVES/EC80E5F1-B66A-4440-BA0F-008F8B79DDD3_zpsvore9yia.jpg

aboynamedsuita
04-15-2016, 01:30 PM
Just received a Shigefusa Kitaeji 180 deba thanks to ms4awd

and a big shotout to F-Flash for this Kato Kikuryu 240 gyuto


Good scores! I also have a kitaeji and Kikuryu coming my way shortly

YG420
04-15-2016, 01:46 PM
Good scores! I also have a kitaeji and Kikuryu coming my way shortly

Nice! I really like the kikuryu. What kind of 240 kato gyuto did Maksim have available today? I managed to snag the yanagiba though.

aboynamedsuita
04-15-2016, 01:59 PM
Nice! I really like the kikuryu. What kind of 240 kato gyuto did Maksim have available today? I managed to snag the yanagiba though.

It was the Kikuryu which I got :D
I'm keen to see what the J-nat finish makes it look like. My Damascus Kato appears to be etched, which also crosses the lamination like from the cladding to the core steel. Some Kikuryu pics appear to be the same, so this will be interesting...

j22582536
04-15-2016, 02:04 PM
Just received a Shigefusa Kitaeji 180 deba thanks to ms4awd

and a big shotout to F-Flash for this Kato Kikuryu 240 gyuto

Nice score~


Nice! I really like the kikuryu. What kind of 240 kato gyuto did Maksim have available today? I managed to snag the yanagiba though.

I was thinking on that yanagiba too, however I couldn't spend that much money on a kasumi. I was also hoping the kitaeji cleaver would be up for sale, too bad that isn't the case...:(

mikedtran
04-15-2016, 02:18 PM
It was the Kikuryu which I got :D
I'm keen to see what the J-nat finish makes it look like. My Damascus Kato appears to be etched, which also crosses the lamination like from the cladding to the core steel. Some Kikuryu pics appear to be the same, so this will be interesting...

Should have held out my Kitaeji to get you on a trade hahahah =p

jackslimpson
04-15-2016, 02:19 PM
Takeo Murata, wide petty. Kurouchi finish san mai with an aogami 1 carbon steel core, Rc 64. From Epic Edge. And, that saya was modified by those wonderful people at EE to fit such a small santoku -- for what appears to be only a nominal fee. The grind is great; it's a well made little knife.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo130/moegreen_photos/IMG_0445_zpst03gdgnb.jpg (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/moegreen_photos/media/IMG_0445_zpst03gdgnb.jpg.html)

I got this for a bartender friend of mine who had been using the chefs small garlic and herb knife from Japan Woodorker. But, she wanted one of her own. She'll be using it to cut limes, lemons, etc.

Cheers,

Jackslimpson

lifeis11
04-15-2016, 02:49 PM
And why not throw in the Meiji while we're on :)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YIWwJbtwETs/Vr35FekGqII/AAAAAAAACzg/LQOT8mpW7UkiFZaOh0h98EHBx8-o1UgJgCCo/s1280-Ic42/IMG_6320.jpg

damn. yeah i still want a meiji too.....basically i just want a bunch of knives, lol

YG420
04-15-2016, 02:58 PM
It was the Kikuryu which I got :D
I'm keen to see what the J-nat finish makes it look like. My Damascus Kato appears to be etched, which also crosses the lamination like from the cladding to the core steel. Some Kikuryu pics appear to be the same, so this will be interesting...
O ok nice! Kinda makes me happy it wasnt a damascus since thats what im looking for lol. Please post some pics when you get it cuz im also curious about the finish as well. Idk how to bring out the pattern yet and dont wana mess anything up lol. Congrats on the new buy!!

YG420
04-15-2016, 03:04 PM
Nice score~



I was thinking on that yanagiba too, however I couldn't spend that much money on a kasumi. I was also hoping the kitaeji cleaver would be up for sale, too bad that isn't the case...:(

Thanks! Yea i was thinking the same about it being kasumi but I havent seen alot of kato yanagibas in my short experience so i jumped on it. Plus ive been on a kato kick lately haha. But i did just get back from Jon's place and saw some stuff i really want ... Does Kato make damascus and kikuryu for other types of knoves?

mikedtran
04-15-2016, 03:58 PM
Thanks! Yea i was thinking the same about it being kasumi but I havent seen alot of kato yanagibas in my short experience so i jumped on it. Plus ive been on a kato kick lately haha. But i did just get back from Jon's place and saw some stuff i really want ... Does Kato make damascus and kikuryu for other types of knoves?

There was a Kato Damascus Yanagiba before on JNS.

YG420
04-15-2016, 04:51 PM
There was a Kato Damascus Yanagiba before on JNS.
Hopefully that pops up again!

mikedtran
04-15-2016, 04:59 PM
Hopefully that pops up again!

This was the listing if you were interested: http://www.japanesenaturalstones.com/yoshiaki-fujiwara-300mm-yanagiba/ (looks natural stoned finished?)

F-Flash
04-15-2016, 05:39 PM
Looks nice! That Kato! ;-)
I'll post my part of the deal once i get it from post office!

aboynamedsuita
04-15-2016, 06:16 PM
I was thinking on that yanagiba too, however I couldn't spend that much money on a kasumi. I was also hoping the kitaeji cleaver would be up for sale, too bad that isn't the case...:(
You're not the only one :nunchucks:


O ok nice! Kinda makes me happy it wasnt a damascus since thats what im looking for lol. Please post some pics when you get it cuz im also curious about the finish as well. Idk how to bring out the pattern yet and dont wana mess anything up lol. Congrats on the new buy!!
I saw the 210 Damascus this am as well, but went for the Kikuryu since I already have one. I'll definitely post the Kikuryu once it arrives, I think on the JNS main page it's in one of the banner pics that scrolls across the top.


There was a Kato Damascus Yanagiba before on JNS.
The Kikuryu Yanagi… hate to see the price tag for a lefty version.

schanop
04-15-2016, 07:40 PM
I was also hoping the kitaeji cleaver would be up for sale, too bad that isn't the case...:(

You're not the only one :nunchucks:


Where is that kitaeji chuka?

aboynamedsuita
04-15-2016, 07:45 PM
Where is that kitaeji chuka?

There were some teaser pics on JNS IG account

j22582536
04-15-2016, 08:56 PM
There were some teaser pics on JNS IG account

I emailed Maksim regarding to that kitaeji cleaver, and he told me that it was sold long time ago...

rami_m
04-15-2016, 10:21 PM
Where is that kitaeji chuka?

tell us, o wise one.