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Dave Martell
09-13-2012, 03:04 PM
Ok so this project almost 2 years in the making and nothing solid has been done to move forward, lots of talk and designing but no steel on the bench.

The plan is to make the first step now and get the ball rolling.



I will do batches/runs of these knives first....

1. 12" Scimitar - 52100 $399

2. Boning Knife - 52100 $250

Handles (will be wood) and specific construction will be Dave's choice. :spiteful:



I'm an antique knifenut from way back and appreciate the older patterns and slight variations in the more traditional ways that knives were designed and made years ago. The KKF butcher knives will have an old feeling to them, possibly distressed, or pre-patina'd even but will be new made from modern steel and heat treat. I'm looking to provide old school flavor combined with modern metallurgy and construction techniques. :thumbsup:


I'm thinking about making only what is ordered (like limited runs of specific patterns), taking 50% deposit at the time of ordering for steel and wood purchasing and getting going on setting this up for start up after my current orders are filled. And by the way, my current knife orders are going to start moving along a hell of a lot quicker here real soon so this isn't an issue for me to be concerned with. By doing this I'm setting up my work schedule for the foreseeable future and this is a good thing.

If you'd be interested in ordering a knife (or knives) from this run please post your interest and I'll get with you on sending you an invoice.

Thanks,
Dave


PS - there will be other knife types in the butcher line coming out later on down the line, we have lots of plans for some unique offerings. :)

TB_London
09-13-2012, 04:29 PM
Any chance of pics of intended profiles?

kalaeb
09-13-2012, 04:47 PM
Especially a profile pic of the boning knife.

I have wanted this for a long time....just need to decide which one, but I am in.

Dave Martell
09-13-2012, 04:55 PM
Of course you want to see pics....I'll work on it. :)

Namaxy
09-13-2012, 05:43 PM
Interested! Most likely boning.

Dave Martell
09-13-2012, 05:58 PM
I wanted to ask you guys are you more interested in a traditional straight edged boning knife (where the curve only exists at the tip) or more of a trimming knife (same length but slight curve along the entire length)?

Also, there's the skinning knife that's a bit longer and wider and that's all curve (sort of a mini-scimitar). This will be made on the next round.

Dave Martell
09-13-2012, 06:00 PM
I forgot to mention that the handles will be very old school traditional looking yet smoothed over for a nice un-blocky feel.

kalaeb
09-13-2012, 06:03 PM
I wanted to ask you guys are you more interested in a traditional straight edged boning knife (where the curve only exists at the tip) or more of a trimming knife (same length but slight curve along the entire length)?

Also, there's the skinning knife that's a bit longer and wider and that's all curve (sort of a mini-scimitar). This will be made on the next round.

More trimming here, but I can go both ways,just excited to see it going.

Namaxy
09-13-2012, 08:43 PM
More trimming here, but I can go both ways,just excited to see it going.

+1. I'd be more interested in the trimming style.

Dave Martell
09-13-2012, 09:21 PM
The trimming style is what I want to make but I figure that this is a good time to ask.

Please keep the opinions coming though. :)

ThEoRy
09-13-2012, 09:34 PM
Anybody have a link to the old thread? I'm leaving work and can't look it up.

brainsausage
09-13-2012, 10:19 PM
I do the majority of my trimming with a petty, so I think I'd personally prefer less curve.

ecchef
09-13-2012, 11:41 PM
Also, there's the skinning knife that's a bit longer and wider and that's all curve (sort of a mini-scimitar).

Like a breaking knife? Carbon only?

Dave Martell
09-14-2012, 09:52 AM
Anybody have a link to the old thread? I'm leaving work and can't look it up.


Here's the earlier thread where we first started talking about the Butcher Set. Here is where it kinda starts.
http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/showthread.php/241-Help-to-Design-a-Forum-Knife!/page10

And here is the other thread started after we decided to go with the butcher set idea.
http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/showthread.php/438-Butcher-Knife-Set-KKF-Member-Project

Dave Martell
09-14-2012, 09:55 AM
Like a breaking knife? Carbon only?


I picture a breaking knife as a bull nose, is that what you're talking about?

Carl
09-14-2012, 11:19 AM
+1 on trimming knife

JohnnyChance
09-14-2012, 11:42 AM
Finally!

cookinstuff
09-15-2012, 12:31 AM
12" 52100 scimitar, sign me up for one when you are doing this! Great idea Dave.

WildBoar
09-15-2012, 09:48 AM
A scimitar would be great! Plaese add me to the list.

chuck239
09-22-2012, 05:59 PM
Dave,

I'm interested. Just want to see what the knives are going to look like.

-Chuck

Salty dog
09-22-2012, 07:41 PM
I did this a while ago. It might make a good reference.

http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a442/Saltys_knives/scim001.jpg

Chef Niloc
09-23-2012, 04:00 AM
Could you make a # 13 and hold it for me ? I should be back on my feet in a few months? I could donate some stabilized extinct American chestnut, it was a very popular wood 100 years ago.

dough
09-23-2012, 09:35 AM
i hope you go with a design similar to saltys pictures rather then bullnose. just not a big fan of using bullnose tip... they just feel clumsy to me.

Dave Martell
09-23-2012, 07:16 PM
A scimitar (steak knife) with a 12" blade is what we're going to make first along with a boning knife.


Thanks for the sketches Salty!

mmingio2
10-05-2012, 03:34 AM
12" scimitar

ecchef
10-05-2012, 03:38 AM
Which profile?

barramonday
10-05-2012, 07:15 AM
I would like a " bull nose " , I've always used one of these.
The extra metal up front seems to help keep portioning cuts as even as possible . I also like using the extreme curve in the front for trimming the chain and small pieces of membrane from the bottom sides of whole beef loins ( porterhouse or ribeye ).
Having some sort of finger guard and a non slippery handle would be essential features for a busy pro kitchen.

Very interested to see what ever you come up with Dave...

mmingio2
11-21-2012, 07:25 PM
Any status change here?

Cheers,

Matt

Dave Martell
11-21-2012, 07:43 PM
Hi Matt, the hold up is in getting the steel in the correct sizes. I'm looking to go with a thicker sheet than I usually work with for this project and the cleaver project too. Thanks for asking!

quantumcloud509
11-22-2012, 08:54 AM
the cleaver project
:plus1:

K-Fed
11-28-2012, 12:13 PM
I love the idea of the butchers knife set. Can I get in line for this? One of each please mr. Martell ;x

Dave Martell
11-28-2012, 12:26 PM
I love the idea of the butchers knife set. Can I get in line for this? One of each please mr. Martell ;x


I think that we can handle this. Thanks K! :)

K-Fed
12-09-2012, 02:26 PM
When will you begin taking deposits for this project?

Dave Martell
12-09-2012, 03:48 PM
When will you begin taking deposits for this project?


I'll get back to you very soon on this. Thanks for asking!

cookinstuff
12-10-2012, 12:15 AM
I initially said scimitar, but I think I would like to get in on the set, this is a good thing going on here. Good luck with the project Dave, and thanks for getting this together.

Dave Martell
12-10-2012, 01:17 PM
I initially said scimitar, but I think I would like to get in on the set, this is a good thing going on here. Good luck with the project Dave, and thanks for getting this together.


Awesome and thank you Adam! :)

DWells
12-14-2012, 02:26 PM
I've been looking for something like this for two years! I even talked to a guy about a project with L&G, but didn't feel the were really up to the task that I had in mind.

I like Salty's DT profile sketch a lot. I have a 10" Carbon Dexter from approx. 1960 and it is a thing of two-dimensionally convexed beauty. I'd be happy to send you pictures if you are interested.

Dave Martell
12-14-2012, 04:11 PM
I have a 10" Carbon Dexter from approx. 1960 and it is a thing of two-dimensionally convexed beauty. I'd be happy to send you pictures if you are interested.

Please do if it's not too much trouble. Thanks

DWells
12-16-2012, 10:37 AM
I'll send some to you once I get a hold of a decent camera. Thanks for resurrecting this idea Dave!

stereo.pete
03-24-2013, 11:51 AM
Any updates to the butcher project?

Dave Martell
03-24-2013, 06:46 PM
I almost hated to open this to answer.....I've been slacking on this project....again :(

Lefty
03-25-2013, 08:19 AM
It can be hard to keep up and even harder to stay focused sometimes. I get where you're coming from....

Mike9
03-25-2013, 04:19 PM
Hours turn into days, days turn into weeks and next thing ya know . . . . it's next year.

X-JaVeN-X
04-29-2013, 09:26 PM
I"m looking to get a decent boning knife...I'd be interested in getting some more info and blade profile pics whenever this project moves forward. I've never used a scimitar style blade in the kitchen, looks interesting however...

K-Fed
04-29-2013, 09:33 PM
I"m looking to get a decent boning knife...I'd be interested in getting some more info and blade profile pics whenever this project moves forward. I've never used a scimitar style blade in the kitchen, looks interesting however...

I've got a soft spot for scimitars and I'm still down for a scimitar boning knife set when this happens :-)

Dave Martell
04-29-2013, 10:59 PM
I hang my head in shame.....