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JMJones
10-08-2012, 04:19 PM
Up for a passaround is a JMJones 240mm gyuto.

Blade is 1095, convex grind, handle is from Epicurian Edge.

All the normal pass around rules apply

Keep for no longer than a week, insure with delivery conformation to the next participant, only sharpen it if you know what you are doing, be a somewhat established poster on this site, ect.

Let me know if you are interested.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e185/pike3e/passaround.jpg


Thanks for looking,

John

Zwiefel
10-08-2012, 04:50 PM
I'm interested, if you'll have me.

Pensacola Tiger
10-08-2012, 04:55 PM
I'd like to be included, thanks!

Rick

brainsausage
10-08-2012, 05:00 PM
Sign me up! If I had a car I'd pop up there and get it! Save on postage:D

knyfeknerd
10-08-2012, 05:50 PM
Absolutely, count me in please. Looks great.

sachem allison
10-08-2012, 06:07 PM
I'd love to try it as I have been interested in your work for awhile.

EdipisReks
10-08-2012, 06:37 PM
i'd love to try it!

El Pescador
10-08-2012, 11:10 PM
I'm in.

Crothcipt
10-08-2012, 11:29 PM
ooooooo i'm interested.

JMJones
10-10-2012, 10:33 AM
Great to have some interest! Please PM your addresses so I can determine the order, the pass around is still open at this time.

Thanks

John

mhenry
10-10-2012, 11:32 AM
Me too please

echerub
10-10-2012, 11:47 AM
I'm interested! PM inbound.

tk59
10-10-2012, 09:30 PM
I'm interested. I can just check it out when Pesky has it, as usual.

Lefty
10-10-2012, 09:34 PM
I'm interested. You've been on my radar for a while now :)

JMJones
10-11-2012, 10:06 AM
Does it take any special consideration to ship to and from Canada for these passarounds? Is shipping much more expensive?


Thanks

John

Lefty
10-11-2012, 10:10 AM
Shipping is slightly more, but the real kick in the ouevos is customs. I JUST got a fairly hefty fee on another passaround, so I might have to back out of these for a while. It's purely my/the government's fault, and not anyone here's issue.

Maybe at the end, or some other tine I can get a go with one of your blades. I have a feeling they're pretty nice!

chinacats
10-11-2012, 12:28 PM
I would love to be included if you still have room. PM incoming.

Thanks

JMJones
10-15-2012, 02:14 PM
Here is the preliminary List- if others are still interested they will be added after these guys.
brainsausage
Sachem Allison
Edipisreks
China Cats
knyfeknerd
Pensacola Tiger
Zweifel
mhenry
crochcipt
El Pascador
Echerub
Lefty (if he is still in)

I will ship this week.

Thanks Again,

John

brainsausage
10-15-2012, 05:04 PM
Thanks John!

Pensacola Tiger
10-15-2012, 05:20 PM
I'm looking forward to it. Thanks, John.

sachem allison
10-15-2012, 10:08 PM
thank you, John!

chinacats
10-16-2012, 12:39 AM
Thanks John, can't wait!

Lefty
10-16-2012, 11:53 AM
I'd love to be in, since I won't be the one getting nailed with the duty! Haha. Len, maybe we can split the charge to bd fair. Actually, I'll pm you soon. Technically, we are apparently supposed to be able to get it backfrom the gov't. We all know how that normally goes, but, I'll be in touch :)

EdipisReks
11-10-2012, 04:27 PM
I got the knife today. There are a couple large holes in the edge, would you like for me to fix it?

chinacats
12-10-2012, 03:00 PM
Received the knife today, looking forward to checking it out tonight!

knyfeknerd
01-03-2013, 07:51 PM
Just got the knife from chinacats today. Really looking forward to trying it out tomorrow. I'll give 'er a spin and let you guys know my thoughts after a few days work. Thanks jmjones for the passaround.

tk59
01-03-2013, 09:21 PM
Did ER get a look at it after it was fixed?

Jmadams13
01-03-2013, 10:03 PM
Would it be to late for me to jump in on this one?

JMJones
01-04-2013, 07:39 AM
Did ER get a look at it after it was fixed?

Not yet.

JMJones
01-04-2013, 07:39 AM
Would it be to late for me to jump in on this one?

not too late, I will add you at the end.

Thanks
John

Jmadams13
01-04-2013, 10:17 AM
Thanks! I'll pm my info

knyfeknerd
01-13-2013, 10:34 PM
I got the chance to use John's knife all this past week at work. I'm usually a 270 or larger kinda guy, but I have used smaller in the past. I tried to use this as my main knife or "workhorse" this week so I could give it an honest review in a pro kitchen. I'm still somewhat new to serious knife knerd-dom, but I'll try to give this a fairly "intelligent sounding" write-up.
First impressions: Looks pretty good. Good rounding on the spine and choil, very comfortable knife to hold. Not really a fan of the handle though. I know it's an EE, but it feels a little too large for this particular knife. It is properly mounted. I'm probably a little biased because I have small hands.
The profile is a little different than anything I've seen or used before. The "drop" down on the spine(or curve) close to the tip looks a little bit wavy or off, but it does not affect the performance in any way. The cutting edge does appear to be even and usually hits flush with the cutting board, however when performing some push forward cuts I found I was not getting all the way through some items.
Grind: Good convex, stiction was not an issue at all for me. It does feel like it needs to be quite a bit thinner behind the edge for me.
The knife felt a little dull to me so I did sharpen it after a couple of days at work. This was a pleasure to sharpen. The metal came off easily and definitely took an extremely sharp edge. I really wanted to thin the edge out, but did not because I am not the owner and don't want to misrepresent JmJones work. Seems to be a good HT too, from what little I understand about heat treating e.g.: Knife stayed sharp and wasn't too flexy or chippy.
I really put this knife through all the motions this week. I cut all kinds of proteins, raw and cooked. Lots of veg prep too. The knife performed well on all the protein-based tasks and I only encountered a little difficulty doing some veg like fine dice work.
There is now a decent patina on the knife-thanks all to me. I'd like to try and take some pics in the daylight before I ship this off to pensacolaT.
All this being said.....
.....This is a great little knife. I think John did a good job and I'd be proud to have it in my fleet.
When the passaround is over let me know if you'd be interested in selling it to me. I'd be more than happy to own a knife made by the guy who makes blades while wearing a Red Sox hat!
Thanks for the opportunity John, I look forward to seeing more work from you.
Would you please PM me how much to insure this for?
I'll PM Rick for his addy tonite.
Thanks for the opportunity

Pensacola Tiger
01-28-2013, 10:30 AM
Knife is on the way today to Zweifel.

I took some pics:

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/Pensacola_Tiger/JMJones/file-3.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/Pensacola_Tiger/JMJones/file-2.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/Pensacola_Tiger/JMJones/file-1.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/Pensacola_Tiger/JMJones/file.jpg

It could be thinner behind the edge, and the tip geometry and profile made using the tip a little difficult.

I sharpened it and the steel took an edge easily.

There is a very, very slight bend to the left, but it did not affect sharpening or using it.

Thanks for the opportunity to use this knife, John.

Rick

Zwiefel
02-15-2013, 11:35 AM
MHenry took a pass on this, so it's going to Crothcipt today.

I have been sick for most of the past two weeks so I haven't really gotten a chance to do anything other than play around with it.

Not sure I have anything to say that wasn't said previously.

The tip shape was not my favorite profile, but I dislike anything even vaguely santoku-like.

Though I couldn't see them, I noticed 3 bumps on the spine in the last few inches towards the tip. Doesn't affect the utility of the knife in any way...just something I noticed.

I couldn't tell if the handle was slightly mis-mounted, or the blade had a slight curve (to the left). Didn't affect how the knife handled at all, but I did end up staring at it on several occasions trying to figure out what looked odd.

Spine + choil were nicely rounded, comfortable.

the handle was a little bit taller than the wa-handles in my collection, but about the same width...I like this size/shape. Even though I have smallish hands, I like a somewhat bigger handle.

It's developing a nice patina on its journey. There was a little bit of odor when cutting daikon. There was also a bit of wedging on the daikon...which made me get out my Watanabe Nakiri and Masamoto VG Gyuto...and they wedged about the same.

It's a good cutter and I enjoyed the opportunity to play around with it; I'd be interested in test-driving any future passarounds as well. Thanks John!

Crothcipt
02-19-2013, 04:12 PM
It showed up today. Still in the box. So, not much to tell, unless you want specs on the box....

Crothcipt
03-02-2013, 02:34 PM
I have to apologize, I was planning on sending it out on tues.. But my father passed away on tues.. I had just now remembered this kinife. I will send it out on Mon.. If I can get next in lines addy. please.

Pensacola Tiger
03-02-2013, 03:14 PM
Sorry to hear about your father. My sympathies to you and your family.

brainsausage
03-02-2013, 03:21 PM
I have to apologize, I was planning on sending it out on tues.. But my father passed away on tues.. I had just now remembered this kinife. I will send it out on Mon.. If I can get next in lines addy. please.

Very sorry to hear this. My condolences to you and your family.

chinacats
03-02-2013, 07:03 PM
Sorry to hear Crothcipt.

mc2442
03-02-2013, 08:42 PM
I am sorry for your loss.

Lefty
03-02-2013, 11:56 PM
Sorry to read that. I hope you're doing ok.

Crothcipt
03-17-2013, 02:33 AM
Thx everyone for your well wishes. There for a few days it was hard. But I have been getting better.

I sent this off last week sometime. It seems to have reached El Pascador on tues.

On many fronts this knife is very nicely made. But there were a few draw backs that I noticed, and ended up bugging me.

First of all, the handle was big. Not a bad thing but almost to big for the knife, but my big hands didn't mind. The heat treat was very well done. I used it quite a bit at work, and it held pretty much the same edge as when I got it. I debated on weather or not to give it a spruce up, but I opted to not. At this time I don't remember about the sticktation. I liked were the blade convexed in relation to the edge. But as it would go to the tip there was no blending in to the spine creating a odd bump. At that bump the blade would thin out to the tip, creating a fixation point for me. On the whole I liked the knife. With a few more adjustments this would be a very good knife.

There was a few more points I wanted to make but right now seem to have alluded me.

El Pescador
03-22-2013, 03:35 PM
I think that this knife is a good foray into the world custom kitchen knives. The shape is almost there, the grind is ok and the knife works. In a weird sort of way it reminded me of a knockoff Rolex though. It wasn’t…right.

The choil gap was awkward for me to use and never fell right. The square shape was uncomfortable. I couldn’t decide if it was too big or too small. If I choked up using it wasn’t right and the balance was off if I kept on the handle. I would suggest a curved choil, and making the size based on locking your middle finger between the blade and handle.

The bump on the spine drove me crazy. It is the first thing I noticed pulling it out of the box. It isn’t noticeable in the photos, but the bump is there and bothered me, A LOT. Previous posters commented on this, so I know it isn’t just me. I don’t think it affects performance in any way though.

The idea of the grind was right, but the knife was “clunky” and seemed to be a lot thicker than it needed to be, almost western deba-ish. I think that many of the guys that are getting into making kitchen knives after have made other types of knives for a while aren’t comfortable making a knife as thin as it needs to be for it to be a really great cutter. I always think that there is a mentality that kitchen knives are modified camp knives.

Faults aside, this is a really good knife not that far from being great.

JMJones
04-20-2013, 03:23 PM
Checking in to see where the knife is...

El Pescador
04-20-2013, 03:28 PM
Last time I checked Len had gotten the knife in Canada.

JMJones
04-20-2013, 07:45 PM
Thanks!

echerub
04-20-2013, 10:47 PM
Yep, I've got it and will be doing some testing with it real soon :)

JMJones
05-29-2013, 07:27 PM
checking to see where this knife is...


Thanks

John

JMJones
11-05-2013, 04:25 PM
Just an update. JMAdams13 had had the knife for three months, has not logged in to KKF since August.

I think this one is a goner:(.

sachem allison
11-05-2013, 04:36 PM
about 4 possibly more passarounds worth of knives and razors never made it pass that destination.

brainsausage
11-05-2013, 06:13 PM
Another one? ***?!? I think its time to form a northeast posse and take them blades back...

ecchef
11-05-2013, 09:02 PM
Not the worst idea I've ever heard......:whistling:

brainsausage
11-05-2013, 09:36 PM
I'm not even joking. This guy has a dearth of very nice knives, that are not his own, and has betrayed a very trusting community. That type of behavior can't be tolerated. I'll leave it at that before I start violating some forum rules.

EdipisReks
11-05-2013, 09:37 PM
Are we sure that he isn't dead, with a bunch of knife boxes piling up in his mailbox?

chinacats
11-05-2013, 09:46 PM
I know one of Bienek's knives was last seen there...

brainsausage
11-05-2013, 10:05 PM
That was my old Ino that was gonna be mine again after the passer. Zweifel is missing a knife as well(a Mario if I'm not mistaken), and now this.

EdipisReks
11-05-2013, 10:10 PM
Has somebody thought about calling his local police? That's what I'd do.

sachem allison
11-05-2013, 10:49 PM
Pierre's razor, Ino, The Blue mammoth tooth Mario, your knife and one or two others I think, not sure.

knyfeknerd
11-06-2013, 12:06 AM
Dave or Austin or Jim or someone can deputize some of us and we'll all head out by ol' Gettysburg!

Apprentice
12-29-2013, 05:37 PM
Just curious, did you ever get the knife back?

JMJones
12-30-2013, 04:34 PM
Nope

Timthebeaver
12-30-2013, 04:47 PM
Are we sure that he isn't dead, with a bunch of knife boxes piling up in his mailbox?

Last login 24-12-2013. So I'm guessing not.

Talim
12-30-2013, 05:36 PM
You guys could file for mail fraud. The feds take it very seriously and could get local authority to look into it.

Apprentice
01-05-2014, 03:02 AM
Nope

That's messed up

toddnmd
01-05-2014, 09:15 AM
Seriously, has anyone talked to this guy? This REALLY bothers me.

MowgFace
01-05-2014, 09:51 PM
Who sent it to him? They have an address.


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Chef Andy
01-06-2014, 09:11 PM
Wow what a douche...

Doesn't really surprise me that someone would do this, since there's some real whack jobs out there, but still.