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SameGuy
11-03-2012, 10:10 PM
...that I made a tiny profit on a knife sale?

No, I did not sell it through this (or any other) forum.

An odd set of circumstances led to me acquiring two knives of the same style and length within a couple of weeks of each other, one lightly used and lovingly maintained, the other brand-new and unused. My collection of good knives is rather small and my finances not exactly great so it was hard to justify keeping both. Recently my wife lost her job and I actually have to think about each and every expense. Getting rid of some of my toys is a logical, if heart-breaking step.

A co-worker professed his new-found interest in Japanese knives so I offered him the unused knife. I had paid $375 for it early this summer; I told my co-worker I need $400 for it now. Knowing that the currency correction has affected pricing by the Japanese knife makers, I told him that he is getting a great deal.

Should I feel bad that I made a few dollars by holding onto the knife for a few months?

SpikeC
11-03-2012, 10:14 PM
Absolutely! Now send me your profit and you will feel MUCH better!

James
11-03-2012, 10:18 PM
If $400 is less than the current pricing, I wouldn't worry about it. You both got a good deal.

cclin
11-03-2012, 11:07 PM
in my opinion, if buyer and seller agree with the price; there is no right or wrong!!

kalaeb
11-03-2012, 11:10 PM
If a friend found out I was trying to make some green off him he would probably be a little pissed.

ajhuff
11-03-2012, 11:23 PM
in my opinion, if buyer and seller agree with the price; there is no right or wrong!!

+1

-AJ

knyfeknerd
11-03-2012, 11:46 PM
Well, you are probably going straight to hell.
Can I have your knives?

The hekler
11-04-2012, 12:23 AM
If current pricing on the knife made your price fair I say no problem. But if current prices are less then what you were asking then yes I'd have to say what you did was wrong. Only exception would be if there were a long wait or something for the knife. I could buy a Shigefusa and turn around and sell it for an extra $50 bucks cause I had it immediately instead of a 6 month wait for the knife and wouldn't feel bad, if I did it with a shun I would be in the wrong.

Cutty Sharp
11-04-2012, 04:20 AM
It's okay, so long as you have your status on KKF switched to 'Vendor' I guess. ;)

Tell the buyer that the extra $25 is meant to cover GST/QST.

VoodooMajik
11-04-2012, 04:33 AM
Capitalism at work.

If it's cheaper then new still then there isn't really a problem.

Money sucks but it seems to be a necessity unfortunately.

SameGuy
11-04-2012, 08:53 AM
The current price on the maker's site is 35,000 or about $450 at a typical credit card exchange rate -- that's before the "custom" touches (curved and polished spine and choil) and shipping.

Mike L.
11-04-2012, 11:01 AM
I see nothing wrong with the deal as described.

Johnny.B.Good
11-04-2012, 11:34 AM
I see nothing wrong with the deal as described.

+1

Lefty
11-04-2012, 12:28 PM
Only if it makes you feel guilty, should you feel guilty. It's all up to you to decide. Sorry....

NO ChoP!
11-04-2012, 12:46 PM
I'm from the camp where I like to give good deals...spread the love a little. I've gotten some great deals, too, so it seems fair. I have seen a few things I've sold, resell for more...it irks me a little, honestly.

But, as a buyer, one should be versed, and be able to decipher for themselves if a deal is good or not.

heirkb
11-04-2012, 12:55 PM
Only if it makes you feel guilty, should you feel guilty. It's all up to you to decide. Sorry....

Unless you're just totally heartless :lol2:

If I'm selling something that's still a deal compared to the market value, I don't mind too much. I used to be into razors and bought a ton of things for WAY cheaper than they were worth, but sold them for what they were actually worth. I wasn't going to sell a $300 razor for $25 just because. Your time and energy (e.g. hunting in antique stores for razors), and the convenience you offer (no wait, for example) as others have mentioned are fair things to consider when you set a price. This is all my opinion, though.

AFKitchenknivesguy
11-04-2012, 12:58 PM
No. We are all adults and make our own choices. Now if you sold to some unsuspecting newbie for an insane profit, than maybe...maybe. But as the saying goes, a fool and his money are soon parted.

Customfan
11-04-2012, 01:07 PM
+1. Not at all.... The is so much information now a days about products, characteristics, description and prices... As long as you are honest on what you are offering.

SameGuy
11-04-2012, 02:17 PM
Thanks for all the feedback. I'm comfortable with the deal. The original sale (to me) was a great deal, and a net-zero gain for the (re)seller. In order to make that deal work I had to drive 65 miles -- across the border -- each way to pick it up. If I consider my fuel and time, $400 is also a zero gain for me. Don't tell the Canadian taxman, but when I told the CBSA officer on the way home that I had "some groceries and kitchen utensils" she waved me through and I saved the 11% duty and 14.975% VAT... ;)

Customfan
11-04-2012, 02:27 PM
There you go!

Cutty Sharp
11-04-2012, 03:37 PM
Don't tell the Canadian taxman, but when I told the CBSA officer on the way home that I had "some groceries and kitchen utensils" she waved me through and I saved the 11% duty and 14.975% VAT... ;)

Really? I can't understand how this could be better than 'some groceries and a Japanese hand-made 240mm kasumi wa-gyuto' ...

Kitchen utensils - good one. I will remember that for my customs forms, too.

AFKitchenknivesguy
11-04-2012, 04:15 PM
Really? I can't understand how this could be better than 'some groceries and a Japanese hand-made 240mm kasumi wa-gyuto' ...

Kitchen utensils - good one. I will remember that for my customs forms, too.

When I lived overseas and shipped, that's always what I put down. No problems.

stevenStefano
11-04-2012, 05:40 PM
I'm from the camp where I like to give good deals...spread the love a little. I've gotten some great deals, too, so it seems fair.

I 100% agree with this. Some people here have helped me and give up their time freely and the 1 knife I bought on the BST here was a once in a lifetime deal. So therefore I sorta feel that since others have been so generous it is only right that I continue the spirit. If money is tight them you gotta do what you gotta do but if your friend finds out perhaps he won't be happy?

Cutty Sharp
11-04-2012, 11:19 PM
The passarounds are another example of this.

SameGuy
11-04-2012, 11:20 PM
I've forwarded him the link to the maker's website which clearly indicates the base price of the exact model of knife, before "custom" touches and shipping. I've made $25 over what I paid, which honestly does not cover the gas and time I spent when I picked the knife up. Meanwhile he's saving at least $100 (if not more) off the current price with shipping. I'm OK with both sides of the deal. :)

SameGuy
11-04-2012, 11:29 PM
Tell you what: just so the doubters don't lose all faith, when the deal closes I'll donate that $25 to the site even though the buyer has never been here.

AFKitchenknivesguy
11-05-2012, 12:09 AM
Francesco,

No need to do that brother, you can't make everyone happy. Anyways, the consensus says you are good to go. There are many people on here I would bend over backwards to help out, but it's not universal. I believe in servant leadership aka working for the people you lead, but sometimes things work out in your favor. Savor it, it doesn't happen often.

kalaeb
11-05-2012, 12:24 AM
Francesco, your knife, your money, your perogative. However, an opinion was clearly solicited in your opening post. In a forum with over 2000 members,you had to know not everyone would have the same views. Please don't take offense where opinion is concerned. Your views are still valued.

I am happy you sold your knife, may the new owner find happy cutting, and may even become a knut.

Carl
11-05-2012, 12:24 AM
You were happy with the price. He was happy with the price. No problems.

SameGuy
11-05-2012, 01:00 AM
No, no. I'm doing it because I value this community. It's a worthwhile investment. :)

cclin
11-05-2012, 02:20 AM
Francesco, now a days, good to know that still have some honest people out there............

NO ChoP!
11-05-2012, 09:05 AM
I just sold a gold bracelet I bought a decade ago for a couple hundred for $600 in scrap! Apples to oranges, sure, but the dollars you spent on the knife probably aren't worth the same today. Inflation and devalue of our dollar is rampant...increase in knife prices have followed suit.

turbochef422
11-05-2012, 03:04 PM
I have a kono hd I'm thinking about selling and am going through kind of the same thing but forget the price increase I'm gonna sell it for what I bought it for. I guess as long as your not taking advantage of a unknowing person.

Crothcipt
11-05-2012, 08:14 PM
When I was learning how to sell cars, my trainer said, "with family, and friends get as much as you can from them." He went on to say if anything happens with the (in this case) car will be your fault. When I got 2 knives off bst. for a friend I made some money from the deal. Nothing much but enough for me to be happy with dealing with it.

Most people don't mind paying more exp if someone they like is who they are dealing with. Just think about that next time you are at your fav. restaurant and how much you tip your fav. waitress vs. "the other one." Exp if they provide the same service.

Cutty Sharp
11-05-2012, 09:51 PM
Tell you what: just so the doubters don't lose all faith, when the deal closes I'll donate that $25 to the site even though the buyer has never been here.

I think you should use all these profits to set up a KKF bladesmithing scholarship fund instead.

Benuser
11-06-2012, 06:39 PM
What's tricky is saying it's a good deal.
If at that very moment it was, there is no problem. He got a brand new one for less than he would have paid otherwise.
If it wasn't a good deal, you've given false information. You should be aware of his knowing and understanding.
If market conditions have changed, it's at your risk. It's unreasonable to buy at 375, and sell for 400, when market value was 120, because of a hypothetical risen dollar or euro, and fallen yen, when you tell him, this is a great opportunity.

Von blewitt
11-06-2012, 08:47 PM
I wonder what Bob Kramer would say ... Seems people make more money selling his knives then he does making them