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Rtabeek
11-10-2012, 10:47 PM
Hey. Hope everyone is well - espically those who have been affected by the storm.

I am now looking for new Deba knife and also a new Petty knife. Finally converting from my western fillet and paring knife.

I currently am culinary instructor who still works part time professionally so having quality knives that can hold up to everyday use is important.

I would like to keep the Petty in the $150-$200 range and the Deba at the $300-$325 range. I am not against spending a bit more if necessary.

I am looking for Japanese handles.

Thanks for the help.

heldentenor
11-11-2012, 12:34 AM
For the deba, consider the Blue #2 Ichimonji-Kichikuni on sale from bluewayjapan on eBay. Good reputation for grind and good steel for much less than most "name brand" blue steel debas. If you want to go "branded," the Masamoto KA (Hon-kasumi) line from Korin and the Gesshin Uraku line from JKI are well regarded, too.

You have tons of options for petties under $200, but Jon's Gesshin Ginga line at JKI is well regarded.

Good luck, and let us know what you buy!

Andrew H
11-11-2012, 12:40 AM
Do you know what size you want on both and if you want carbon or stainless for the petty?

Welcome aboard.

chinacats
11-11-2012, 01:24 AM
Also, do you want a 'full' deba or miroshi (sp)?

Rtabeek
11-11-2012, 06:44 PM
Carbon or stainless really doesn't matter for petty. Looking at 120 for petty and 180 for the Deba.

Thanks.

Rtabeek
11-11-2012, 06:46 PM
Looking for a full, true Deba to break down fish and chicken mostly. Need to get slicing knife though as well.

Rtabeek
11-11-2012, 06:52 PM
Thanks so much for the help. I will for sure do my research on these knives and put then on my possible list. I appreciate the info and will keep you posted on what I go with. Any suggestions in slicing knives while we are at it? Thanks again.

schanop
11-11-2012, 06:57 PM
With 300 - 325 budget for a 180mm deba, you'll have quite a lot of decent choices: Yoshikane, Masamoto KK/ KS, Yoshihiro Namiuchi blue #1 to name a few; and for more economical options: Yoshihiro Honkasumi blue #2, Gesshin Uraku, Sakai Ichimonji Kichikuni, Sakai Takayuki etc.

Benuser
11-11-2012, 07:07 PM
Looking for a full, true Deba to break down fish and chicken mostly. Need to get slicing knife though as well.
breaking down chicken with a deba? Is that a common procedure? It's single bevelled, a heavy blade with a fragile edge. I would say, have a heavy Western chef knife and a slicer (sujihuki).

Rtabeek
11-11-2012, 08:00 PM
Wouldn't use it for cutting through bones. More like removing breast and things like that. Where I work and teach, we bring everything whole and remove what is needed and use the rest for soups, stocks, etc. unless you think otherwise. Would love to know your thoughts on type of knife for breaking down birds. Thanks.

Andrew H
11-11-2012, 08:05 PM
A 120 petty could work for breaking down chicken, a 150 would probably be better, though. Personally I find my 120mm to be a bit too small. Jon at JKI offers a lot of great petty options: http://www.japaneseknifeimports.com/kitchen-knives-by-type/petty-knife.html?dir=desc&order=price

I'd recommend the Gengetsu or the Gesshin Ginga in particular. For a first deba I'd definitely go with this: http://www.japaneseknifeimports.com/kitchen-knives-by-type/deba/gesshin-uraku-180mm-white-2-deba.html

Benuser
11-11-2012, 09:18 PM
Wouldn't use it for cutting through bones. More like removing breast and things like that. Where I work and teach, we bring everything whole and remove what is needed and use the rest for soups, stocks, etc. unless you think otherwise. Would love to know your thoughts on type of knife for breaking down birds. Thanks.

I would be prefer a not too flexible Western boning knife.

cclin
11-11-2012, 10:01 PM
Wouldn't use it for cutting through bones. More like removing breast and things like that. Where I work and teach, we bring everything whole and remove what is needed and use the rest for soups, stocks, etc. unless you think otherwise. Would love to know your thoughts on type of knife for breaking down birds. Thanks.

Honesuki

mpukas
11-11-2012, 11:53 PM
Wouldn't use it for cutting through bones. More like removing breast and things like that. Where I work and teach, we bring everything whole and remove what is needed and use the rest for soups, stocks, etc. unless you think otherwise. Would love to know your thoughts on type of knife for breaking down birds. Thanks.

No need for a deba on chickens - too specialized.

I use a 150 petty or 210 suji + Wusthoff chef's knife for cutting through rib cage. But you can use anything you want... western boning knife, honesuke, petty/suji, etc. I rarely cut the breast of the rib cage, so if you do that often, a boning knife with a bit of a curve at the tip and some flex may be a better option.

Rtabeek
11-13-2012, 08:57 PM
Thanks so much for the info. Going to do some research and go from there. Will let you know what I get. Thanks

sachem allison
11-14-2012, 01:06 AM
welcome!