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JBroida
12-14-2012, 04:02 PM
I dont know if you guys saw this yet, but i thought i would post it here for everyone to see. What a tragedy.

http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-police-responding-to-incident-in-newtown-20121214,0,7266220,full.story

Mike9
12-14-2012, 04:06 PM
I work at a community college and this story just breaks my heart. 20 children, 6 adults, the shooter and an off site victim. What a tragic waste of human life. We lost an adult child a year and a half ago and that was bad, but I can't imagine what these poor parents are going through.

Dave Martell
12-14-2012, 04:10 PM
We've been following this all day, it's very sad.

jmforge
12-14-2012, 04:22 PM
Off site victim was apparently the guys dad, one adult victim at the school was his mom. Some news outlets now saying that the shooter's younger brother is being questioned as a possible second participant. Sick f**ker apparently shot up the office and then killed every kid in one of the kindergarten classrooms.

chinacats
12-14-2012, 04:24 PM
So sad...:(

blummy
12-14-2012, 04:29 PM
Very sad to hear.

It's disgusting that someone can go out and do that. Let alone go out and do it to 20 children who have no hope or no way to even consider to defend themselves in some way or another. Very cowardly and very sad.

All the best to all the family's affected.

Mike L.
12-14-2012, 05:03 PM
Evil is alive, and well.

markenki
12-14-2012, 05:53 PM
My heart goes out to the victims and survivors. So so sad.

mr drinky
12-14-2012, 05:57 PM
This is tragic beyond words, and I just can't watch or read about it any more. I get too choked up -- maybe because I have a kid in third grade. I also live in a small town of 4,000 that had a school shooting in 2003 where two kids were killed. And a couple of years ago, a young kid got caught bringing a gun into our elementary school. I'm under no illusion that these things always 'happen somewhere else'.

k.

Dardeau
12-14-2012, 07:19 PM
My mother teaches kindergarten. I can't imagine something like this happening to her and her students. The loss of humanity that has to occur in someone before they can do this to children is beyond what I can fathom. I hope for healing and peace to those who have to keep going to work and teaching, and the students who have to keep going to school and learning.

mainaman
12-14-2012, 07:29 PM
Terrible and sad events today.

VanIsleSteve
12-14-2012, 07:46 PM
My thoughts and love are with all those effected.

Vladimir
12-15-2012, 06:38 AM
bad laws in your country , anyone can walk around with a gun, that's why it happens so often. in our country can not buy weapons and such stories do not happen. in any case very sorry for the defenseless children , and can not imagine what they feel their parents.

jmforge
12-15-2012, 09:54 AM
We appreciate your thoughts, but this is probably not the place for poltical statements. By the way, your REPORTED murder rate in Ukraine is actually slightly higher than the US.
bad laws in your country , anyone can walk around with a gun, that's why it happens so often. in our country can not buy weapons and such stories do not happen. in any case very sorry for the defenseless children , and can not imagine what they feel their parents.

dough
12-15-2012, 11:17 AM
"We appreciate your thoughts, but this is probably not the place for poltical statements."

very polite of you sir. i wish more of our politicians spoke with such tact.

eaglerock
12-15-2012, 12:29 PM
was crying while reading the news. really sad news, i hope the kids families will recover :(

quantumcloud509
12-16-2012, 03:08 AM
Senseless. Sad. Depraving. Im sorry.

AFKitchenknivesguy
12-16-2012, 09:10 PM
bad laws in your country , anyone can walk around with a gun, that's why it happens so often. in our country can not buy weapons and such stories do not happen. in any case very sorry for the defenseless children , and can not imagine what they feel their parents.

Wrong in so many ways I won't begin. Sensationlism by the media and their grotesque focus on the killer and not the victims, 24 hours news coverage within minutes and by minute updates, desensitisation of society by movies, video games, and TV, not enough focus on mental disorders, and general entitlement thought process of today's culture (everyone gets a trophy!). When true hardships come, and you realize you are not a precious gem, immature/weak minds can break. So lets disarm everyone? Yeah, because criminals and killers follow the law. The only people that would be affected by an AWB would be law abiding citizens. Sorry Dave, not trying to be political but it had to be said.

I feel bad for the families and victims and I hope the recovery comes sooner than later.

apicius9
12-16-2012, 09:33 PM
All good points Jason, but you know we could get into a heavy argument about the consequences of all this without getting to a conclusion, and we all know that this is not the place for that.


Stefan

AFKitchenknivesguy
12-16-2012, 09:50 PM
Very true Stefan, truly sorry if I came across too blunt. There are consequences to everything we do in life, from guns, alcohol, tobacco, cell phones, dependence on oil, sedentary lifestyles, and such. I'm a little sensitive to the issue due to my brothers in arms from the Vietnam era. They were sent as a tool/hand of the government and were spit on, despised, and hated by society. Everyone focuses on the symptoms, and not the root problem. Guns were a tool/hand of the killer used to do bad things. After 16+ years in the military, and so many sacrifices made, for my 2nd ammendment right to be infringed is an agenda for me. And it is being called on big time. I just wish someone was there that was armed that could have taken him out.

PS I am going to be banned for all this! :sad0:

Jason

apicius9
12-16-2012, 09:54 PM
I just wish someone was there that was armed that could have taken him out.

PS I am going to be banned for all this! :sad0:

Jason

I understand the sensitivities. And I just wish his mother had not been allowed to buy a Bushmaster. O.k., I'll shut up now before we all get kicked out...

Stefan

AFKitchenknivesguy
12-16-2012, 10:05 PM
Me too! :O

eshua
12-17-2012, 02:51 AM
Yale study about multivictim public shootings and conceal carry -- http://www.thevrwc.org/JohnLott.pdf

BBC talks with Dr Park Deitz about the medias failure in these situations -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGw5LNThcoc

The Onion Responds -- http://www.theonion.com/articles/****-everything-nation-reports,30743/

I have strong opinions about the root causes, but these were some of the more immediate commentaries I've seen lately. God only knows what they say on the television I never watch it.

eshua
12-17-2012, 02:53 AM
Guess the profanity filter may have broken the onion link but it will be front page for now.

ecchef
12-17-2012, 05:40 AM
PS I am going to be banned for all this! :sad0:

No you're not. Let's all just keep it civil and non-political. OK?

Cipcich
12-17-2012, 06:57 AM
Civil? That would be good. "Non-political" would, however, pretty much end the discussion, unless there's an exception in the rules for some subjects.

Salty dog
12-17-2012, 07:10 AM
I have to wonder why someone who is deranged enough to gun down innocent children was walking the streets? I mean, isn't that about as crazy as you can get? Not to mention his cowardice. He'll shoot unarmed women and children but when the coppers show up he calls it a day.

I hate to say it but the mom screwed up. You have a nut-case kid and a house full of guns.......hello?

Cipcich
12-17-2012, 08:00 AM
That some "someone who is deranged" is free to wander the streets of Connecticut, or California, is largely attributable to the failure of the various state governments to even attempt to deal with the problem of mental illness. California bailed years ago; now, if you're nuts, and your family will, or cannot, take care of you, you're on the streets. Thanks Jerry! Here, we just whack 'em in the woods now . . .
Yeah, Mom screwed up. That's probably the most surprising thing about this, as it's more often the man of the house who has a collection of guns.
I'm one of them. Finally, at the age of 63, I'm starting to wonder what exactly I was afraid of. My wife will probably end up throwing my AR-15, my Glock and various other sidearms, into the casket with me when I go. With all the 30 round clips, there might not be much room left for me. Maybe she can wedge in one kitchnen knife.