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jmforge
12-15-2012, 09:51 PM
If any of you are fans of wheated bourbon like Makers Mark, Weller, Van Winkle and what have you, I would suggest that you scrape up the cash ($87.50 for a fifth here in my neck of the woods) and buy you a bottle or two of Jeffersons Presidential Select 18 year old. Why, you may ask? Well, Ill tell you. This stuff is supposedly the LAST of what was left aging at the old Stitzel-Weller distillery when Sazerac/Buffalo Trace bought it a number of years ago and closed it down. A fair bit of what has been released in the premium line of stuff like 19 year old Weller and I think t eh Van Winkle stuff has ben that leftover. This is the last. They relased some last year as a 17 year old and this batch as an 18. In addition to being some monster hooch, it represents the end of an era. My brother, whi has a bit more cah than I do, bought one bottle, tried it, and went back and bought 6 more. One of his normal borbouns is Basil hayden, which is some damn good stuff and not cheap. He said tha after drinking this Jefferson, the first sip of normally smooth Hayden tasted like lighter fluid. :lol2: The suttf is expensive, but nothing like the $200+ you pay for the 22-23 year old Van Winkle and the same or slightly less than you pay for the current 18 year old William Larue Weller. This stuff is better than the Weller they are selling now and possibly the equal of the old 19 year old Weller that I say is stlll the best bourbon that i have ever had.

heldentenor
12-15-2012, 10:32 PM
Seconded. I don't know that I like it more than Van Winkle 15, but it's good stuff and--as ******* says--worth getting while you can.

jmforge
12-15-2012, 10:51 PM
FYI, 2010 was the last year for the Van Winkle 15 from leftover S-W stock. As of 2011, it is Buffalo Trace product like all of the younger Weller, etc. The 22 and 23 Van Winkle is still S-W as is this Jefferson. I would suspect that the William Larue Weller is going to be switching over to BT made booze assuming that they continue making these lines.

ecchef
12-15-2012, 11:42 PM
I wonder if my local can order some of this. Best I can get here regularly is Woodford.

jmforge
12-16-2012, 12:19 AM
I think I just lucked into the stuff. These limited Weller/Van Winkle runs usually go pretty fast.
I wonder if my local can order some of this. Best I can get here regularly is Woodford.

pitonboy
12-16-2012, 12:25 AM
Funny, just bought a bottle of this today almost at random for a present--maybe I should keep it for myself

quantumcloud509
12-16-2012, 04:17 AM
Funny, just bought a bottle of this today almost at random for a present--maybe I should keep it for myself

Yes

turbochef422
12-16-2012, 12:36 PM
Is this one any good. I always like gin more but it think I can get into bourbon. I got 4 of these from my meat guy for Christmas.

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Andrew H
12-16-2012, 07:06 PM
I was looking to buy a bottle of bourbon as a Christmas gift and I saw your post this morning. Went out and got a bottle of batch #10, thanks jm!

Duckfat
12-16-2012, 07:28 PM
I usually have Blanton's on the desk but I'll have to watch out for this. Thanks for the heads up.

Dave

ecchef
12-16-2012, 09:06 PM
Is this one any good. I always like gin more but it think I can get into bourbon. I got 4 of these from my meat guy for Christmas.

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No, that stuff sucks. Send it to me for proper disposal. I'll even pay the postage. :D

jmforge
12-16-2012, 10:10 PM
Same batch as mine. Interesting that they let it sit around for a couple of years after they took it out of the barrels. The bottle says that it was distilled in fall of '91. With special batches like this, they tend to stop the aging it when they don't think that it is going to improve significantly with more aging and as you know, unlike wine or bottle conditioned beer, once it comes out of the barrel, it's done.
I was looking to buy a bottle of bourbon as a Christmas gift and I saw your post this morning. Went out and got a bottle of batch #10, thanks jm!

dough
12-16-2012, 11:44 PM
just so i understand i thought we are talking about

http://acorkabove.com/images/Pres18.jpg

anywho i wanna buy a bottle just have to find it in PA(which doesnt allow you to just buy it and have it shipped to me) or have to do a SLO through the restaurant but if i am able i will soon own a bottle or two.

jmforge
12-16-2012, 11:51 PM
That be the stuff.
just so i understand i thought we are talking about

http://acorkabove.com/images/Pres18.jpg

anywho i wanna buy a bottle just have to find it in PA(which doesnt allow you to just buy it and have it shipped to me) or have to do a SLO through the restaurant but if i am able i will soon own a bottle or two.

Andrew H
12-16-2012, 11:55 PM
Same batch as mine. Interesting that they let it sit around for a couple of years after they took it out of the barrels. The bottle says that it was distilled in fall of '91. With special batches like this, they tend to stop the aging it when they don't think that it is going to improve significantly with more aging and as you know, unlike wine or bottle conditioned beer, once it comes out of the barrel, it's done.

Yeah, I don't know what that's about. Looking at the thread on Bourbon Enthusiasts it looks like we got a good batch. :whistling:

jmforge
12-17-2012, 12:05 AM
Okay, i think that I might have figured out some more backstory on this stuff. It is bottled by McClain and Kine in Louisville, which is owned by Castle Brands, who also make Goslings rum and Boru vodka. No idea how they got hold of the S-W hooch. I was under the impression that Buffalo Trace and Julian Van Winkle III were the only ones who had access to that leftover stock from the old distillery. Guess not. The original story that I heard about the first batch of the 19 year old Weller was that when they were doing inventory of the aging warehouses after that sale of the distillery in 1992, they found this stuff that had been sitting in the back for 19 years. The warehouse guys allegedly said that it was an extraordinarily good batch of the "Old Weller" "feedstock" that they made their premium 10-12 year old 107 proof stuff in the purple velvet bag and they had left it and kept checking every year or so to see how it was doing.

jmforge
12-17-2012, 12:07 AM
Well, I haven't opened mine yet (almost afraid to open it without some good reason) but my brother bought the one bottle, tried it, proclaimed it be, and i quote, "good sh*t" (that's what he texted to me) and went out and bought three more for himself, one for my dad for Christmas and one for his doctor buddy up in DC. :lol2: I will be a mooch and taste it at his house next week.:biggrin: I am tempted to try to find at least one more because we are still kicking oursleves for not buying last the two bottles of that old 19 year old Weller that were at our local store back in the day. It turns out that they were two of the last four in all of Florida and we were unable to find any more even in Kentucky with about 4 people looking!!
Yeah, I don't know what that's about. Looking at the thread on Bourbon Enthusiasts it looks like we got a good batch. :whistling:

Duckfat
12-18-2012, 09:10 AM
The Buffalo Trace distillery tour is well worth a visit if you ever get near Lexington, KY. I just wish I would have bought that 20 YO Pappy Van Winkle when I was there.

Dave


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cnochef
12-18-2012, 02:05 PM
Loved Buffalo Trace! We took the "Hard hat" tour, which is longer and more detailed.

BTW I buy the basic Weller wheated bourbon, it's a tremendous value.

jmforge
12-18-2012, 05:33 PM
Yes, it is. They have recently brought back what looks like the previous "Old Weller" 107 proof.
Loved Buffalo Trace! We took the "Hard hat" tour, which is longer and more detailed.

BTW I buy the basic Weller wheated bourbon, it's a tremendous value.

Namaxy
12-19-2012, 09:20 AM
Thanks for the tip JM, and thanks for the tour pics Duck!

jmforge
12-19-2012, 11:46 AM
I am going to be in BIG trouble if my brother got that last bottle out of the one good barrel and all the rest taste like goat pee!!!:lol2:

JohnnyChance
01-25-2013, 03:13 PM
Got a bottle of this today. Trying it after work.

GlassEye
01-26-2013, 07:48 PM
I looked for a bottle today, no luck.

JohnnyChance
01-29-2013, 10:00 PM
Since finally finding a place that had this near me, I have been into 3 other places that also stocked it.

Now I need to find some Four Roses 2012 Limited Edition Small Batch. They are about the same price, if someone wants to trade a Jefferson for a Four Roses, I would be down.

AFKitchenknivesguy
01-29-2013, 10:01 PM
I wish I could find some Pappy. I don't even like whisky, just want to say I tried it.

JohnnyChance
01-29-2013, 10:41 PM
No bourbon bars near you that you can buy a nip or a sliver?

AFKitchenknivesguy
01-29-2013, 10:42 PM
I don't believe so. CS is not known as a foodie town.

JohnnyChance
01-29-2013, 11:32 PM
I don't believe so. CS is not known as a foodie town.

When five of the top ten search results for "bourbon" near Colorado Springs in Google Maps are Applebees, this is probably true.

GlassEye
01-30-2013, 12:28 AM
Since finally finding a place that had this near me, I have been into 3 other places that also stocked it.

Now I need to find some Four Roses 2012 Limited Edition Small Batch. They are about the same price, if someone wants to trade a Jefferson for a Four Roses, I would be down.
I may have seen a bottle of this at the store, I will add it to the list to check.

bear1889
02-01-2013, 09:17 AM
I guess I am lucky where I live, which is right now is in northern Kentucky. The big liquor stores have been able to select their own barrels for bottling. I just bought a bottle of barrel select 10 yr old Eagle Rare that is just fantastic for $26. Luckily the guy that is selecting has a real good palate.:biggrin:

mhlee
02-09-2013, 04:50 PM
I just got my order of five bottles of Jefferson's Presidential Select 18 Years Old, Batch 9.
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El Pescador
02-09-2013, 08:04 PM
I know it isn't burbon but the Kirkland brand 20yr old scotch from Costco is a great deal for $45.