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CompE
12-17-2012, 04:38 PM
My Chinese in-laws recently visited, and I was very surprised that my mother-in-law was familiar with CCK. She had told me that when she was living in Hong Kong ~40 years ago, CCK was a very famous knife company. Somehow, I had thought that they were just some niche maker that the knife nuts came across, yet my mother-in-law who couldn't tell me the name of any other knife company anywhere, recognized my CCK.

My in-laws have long known for a while to avoid any knife in my kitchen with a wa handle and they avoided my new CCK. But since their last visit, I also bought a new Old Hickory 7" butcher's knife. I bought it to replace a 30+ year-old version of the same knife that my wife had taken with her to college. The old knife is badly rusted and the edge profile has a 1/4" divot 1" from the heel where someone had repeatedly banged it into a sharpening steel. The new version of the knife cost me ~$10 and about 10 hours work so far. Being carbon steel I got the edge to shaving sharp. My mother-in-law recognized the new one as the old one that used to be in her kitchen and she used it to make stuffed eggplant. My mother-in-law's method for measuring the depth of the split has always been to use her finger to feel the edge of the knife when it made it to the right depth. As you could probably imagine, she didn't realize that she had a deep cut in her finger until she reached for the second piece and saw that she was bleeding all over it. I only found out about it after she had already bandaged herself up and was asking me to identify the dull knives in the block.

BTW, back to CCK, I've only been able to find a select variety of their knives and I came across this site in China that ships worldwide:
http://www.chefsmall.net/Chinese-Knives
They carry every cleaver and butcher's knife on the CCK "Chinese Knife" webpage, and a couple of other knives that are not.

snowbrother
12-17-2012, 09:41 PM
I think I love you now. There have been a couple of their knives that I haven't been able to find anywhere. Thank you for posting this.

chinacats
12-17-2012, 10:40 PM
Nice, thanks!

EdipisReks
12-17-2012, 10:49 PM
My mother-in-law's method for measuring the depth of the split has always been to use her finger to feel the edge of the knife when it made it to the right depth.

wow, that's sounds like a bad idea.

keithsaltydog
12-17-2012, 11:58 PM
Thanks for the site Comp.Great to see that cleaver collection.Chinatown here has a large selection of CCK's,I've bought a number of CCK Carbons Veg. & Bone Cleavers.

I have Chinese in my family as well,Antie & 5 Hapa cousins & their kids & grandkids:)

chinacats
12-18-2012, 12:07 AM
Anyone know the difference in the different choppers (bone, bbq, chopper, kau kong) and just plain cleaver. I have an 1101 slicer and really like it.

keithsaltydog
12-18-2012, 01:13 AM
Your 1101 is a nice cleaver,it is not suited for bones,but good for cutting just about everything else.Not a super lite 1303 at only 270 grams.

My Bone cleaver is the KF 1621 Carbon,Heavy,gets razor sharp wt. convex edge,used it mostly cutting platters of Ginger Chix for banquets.Now that I'm retired don't use it at all.Probably time to pass it on.

apicius9
12-18-2012, 01:43 AM
Thanks for the site Comp.Great to see that cleaver collection.Chinatown here has a large selection of CCK's,I've bought a number of CCK Carbons Veg. & Bone Cleavers.


Nobody ever tells me anything around here ;) I had no idea, maybe we should meet in Chinatown one of these days and you can show me where, Keith...

Stefan

Jmadams13
12-18-2012, 01:52 AM
I've seen that site, and almost ordered from them, I just get a weird feeling about them (the company) not sure why. I have seen other sites, under different names selling home goods and whatnot, not knives, with the same physical address and phone number. Has anyone had experience with them?

keithsaltydog
12-18-2012, 05:20 AM
Nobody ever tells me anything around here ;) I had no idea, maybe we should meet in Chinatown one of these days and you can show me where, Keith...

Stefan

Sure Steph, It is on Maunakea St.Used to be called Maunakea Trading Co. Diff. name now.same store.It is like a Reasturant Supply store Chinese style.Woks,Bamboo Stainers,lots of stuff & a big glass counter case wt. all kinds of cool cleavers.:knife:

quantumcloud509
12-18-2012, 12:54 PM
Your 1101 is a nice cleaver,it is not suited for bones,but good for cutting just about everything else.Not a super lite 1303 at only 270 grams.

My Bone cleaver is the KF 1621 Carbon,Heavy,gets razor sharp wt. convex edge,used it mostly cutting platters of Ginger Chix for banquets.Now that I'm retired don't use it at all.Probably time to pass it on.

PM sent :D

CompE
12-18-2012, 03:00 PM
wow, that's sounds like a bad idea.
Definitely a bad idea if you pick up one of my knives, but who's to say it's so bad if you never use a knife that is sharp enough to puncture skin?


I've seen that site, and almost ordered from them, I just get a weird feeling about them (the company) not sure why. I have seen other sites, under different names selling home goods and whatnot, not knives, with the same physical address and phone number. Has anyone had experience with them?
I've always gotten a weird feeling about ordering from websites in China. Here's another one for you:
http://www.cookwarekitchenware.com/knives-chan-chi-kee-c-15_16
Same items, same prices, same postal code, different phone number. Both domains are registered to the same person. I found a post to a forum in Australia where someone claimed that they got a CCK from chefsmall.net, and regarding cookwarekitchenware.com I found this:
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Cookware_Kitchenware
Personally, I'd order from either one but I'd also keep an eye on the credit card account for a while after making and receiving my order.

CompE
12-20-2012, 01:49 PM
FYI.. I sent an e-mail to chefsmall and confirmed that they accept PayPal. Since PayPal takes the customer's side by default in any dispute, and your CC info never makes it to the vendor, it should be as safe an option as any to place an order.

Anyone ordering from either chefsmall or cookwarekitchenware?

Jmadams13
12-20-2012, 02:46 PM
I might after the 1st. Not sure tho. I'm still a little iffy. I've been burned ordering from Chinese web stores before. As anyone actually purchased from them?

statusquo
12-21-2012, 09:05 PM
Just ordered my mom the extra small and hard to find stainless CCK1915. I will report back with a hopefully intact credit history.


I might after the 1st. Not sure tho. I'm still a little iffy. I've been burned ordering from Chinese web stores before. As anyone actually purchased from them?

brainsausage
12-21-2012, 11:44 PM
Just ordered my mom the extra small and hard to find stainless CCK1915. I will report back with a hopefully intact credit history.

Please do, I'm very curious about this magical cleaver wonderland...

mindbender
12-22-2012, 11:59 PM
Sure Steph, It is on Maunakea St.Used to be called Maunakea Trading Co. Diff. name now.same store.It is like a Reasturant Supply store Chinese style.Woks,Bamboo Stainers,lots of stuff & a big glass counter case wt. all kinds of cool cleavers.:knife:

I'm not sure if they're still there (at least from last weekend's visit to Chinatown). But there's an open indoor market at N. King St. and Kekaulike St. that had a few cleavers for sale there. I don't recall seeing any CCK models, however.

I know that a certain knife sales site isn't welcome around here, but have you tried the Fanatic by you-know-who? I love the fit and finish of that cleaver, and have no regrets over this purchase.

statusquo
01-08-2013, 11:27 PM
My cleavers showed up today. The whole experience was good with no issues whatsoever. Stanley, the owner I presume, was very nice and helpful and actually contacted me to try to talk me out of the CCK1915 as he thought it was too small. I ended up going with the 1914 which is a little taller but the same length (mum is older, smaller and has arthritis in hands).

Shipping to Canada was $20 for two cleavers and Stanley indicated on the package that it was a commercial sample, I was pleasantly surprised to not be charged any custom duties. It arrived in under 3 weeks, not bad considering it is coming from China during xmas season. I was given a tracking number via HK Post which is integrated with Canada Post and I was able to continue to track it once it left China.

Lastly, my cc is still intact and available for me to continue to spend on all kinds of stuff that I just MUST HAVE!

jimbob
01-08-2013, 11:36 PM
Thats good to hear. Am waiting for a 1303 from stanley myself. Peoples iffiness got me a bit worried... I think its just the unfamiliar website layout...

vicv
01-13-2013, 07:07 PM
That's awesome you found that site. I bought my 1301 somewhat locally but they don't carry everything from them. It is a cck store. I really like that 340mm butcher knife. Probably useless to me but it would look good on my magnetic rack. I envy you guys using the big 11xx series. My 1301 is enormous and difficult to use and sharpen being so wide. But the way it effortlessly glides through everything.... Ah