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bieniek
12-27-2012, 10:59 AM
Ideally I would trade this for another Shig, kasumi 24-25cm "gyuto".
Dont want stainless, only monosteel or cladded carbon.
Must be high at heel, 55mm or so.

The reason that motivates this offering is that I have everything over 25cm, but dont really have enough board room sometimes to accomodate so long blade. Or you could say theres too much on my board all the time.
For same reason Im planning to sell Ittetsu after PA.

The only 27cm that will stay with me is my Kato.

The knife supplied with redwood saya. Standard handle. Photos if you ask.

Been thinned once. Been sharpened dozen of times maybe. Recently all patina sccrubbed away [as a part of a major setup cleaning]

This knife was working in a kitchen, its not a showpiece.

mhenry
12-27-2012, 11:12 AM
If you don't get any trade offers I would be interested in buying it

gentlecook
12-27-2012, 02:48 PM
Been thinned once

I suspect that is a thick version gyuto )

bieniek
12-28-2012, 09:45 AM
If you don't get any trade offers I would be interested in buying it

Roger that.

chinacats
12-28-2012, 11:18 AM
Roger that.

I'll be number 2 in line if that falls through--which I doubt.

:biggrin:

bieniek
01-04-2013, 03:24 PM
OK. That didnt go to well.

600$. Shipping from here could bust any balls.

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As on pics, blade not polished and the finish is just after binsui stone.
Can be polished, that part I enjoy so no problemo.

The hekler
01-04-2013, 04:47 PM
Very tempting, I wish I didn't have a 240mm shige getting rehandled at the moment, or I would snag thus one.

bieniek
01-14-2013, 10:09 AM
OK.

600 shipped to anywhere.

daddy yo yo
01-14-2013, 10:56 AM
tempting, i must admit. resist, i must, master yoda says.

bieniek
01-17-2013, 07:21 AM
Would get there to you in Austria in no-time

Just saying:spiteful:

Crothcipt
01-17-2013, 05:48 PM
I'm surprised this is still here. Must still be to close to the holidays.

Mike Davis
01-18-2013, 11:28 AM
Someday i will add a.Shige to my collection.

Von blewitt
01-18-2013, 11:37 AM
Someday i will add a.Shige to my collection.

Trades considered? ;)

bieniek
01-22-2013, 01:02 AM
;)

bump!

bieniek
01-26-2013, 01:48 AM
bump!!

!!

bieniek
02-04-2013, 11:14 AM
Today I thinned the knife, will polish and sharpen it and could make some additional photos if any of you would be interested.

bieniek
02-06-2013, 03:54 PM
;)

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Thinned behind the edge but also took a little off of the top of the sec edge. This is such a wonderful blade.

Withdrawn.

toddnmd
02-06-2013, 04:03 PM
Looks a lot nicer now!

brainsausage
02-06-2013, 04:46 PM
Nice polishing job Mike. If I hadn't just picked up a Kato from Scott, I would've been all over this...

schanop
02-06-2013, 04:49 PM
Good work, and good decision (IMO).

bieniek
02-08-2013, 04:02 PM
Nice polishing job Mike. If I hadn't just picked up a Kato from Scott, I would've been all over this...

Hehe but you anyway did the right thing ;)

EdipisReks
02-08-2013, 04:45 PM
nice polishing job! what was the process?

heirkb
02-08-2013, 05:10 PM
nice polishing job! what was the process?

+1 to both parts.

mainaman
02-08-2013, 05:15 PM
nice polishing job! what was the process?
my guess is sand paper then natural stone. Knoves are very easy to get nice even finish with Red or Green aoto slurry and 400/600 sand paper.

EdipisReks
02-08-2013, 06:13 PM
my guess is sand paper then natural stone. Knoves are very easy to get nice even finish with Red or Green aoto slurry and 400/600 sand paper.

sandpaper and finger stones is what i've used on my Shig, but i've never gotten quite that nice of a finish. probably just not enough grease, on my part.

mainaman
02-08-2013, 07:46 PM
sandpaper and finger stones is what i've used on my Shig, but i've never gotten quite that nice of a finish. probably just not enough grease, on my part.
I like the red /green aoto before finger stones, gives smoother finish IMO.

EdipisReks
02-08-2013, 08:46 PM
I like the red /green aoto before finger stones, gives smoother finish IMO.

i'll give that a shot the next time i thin my Shig, thanks for the suggestion!

and i had meant to say "not enough elbow grease," in post 25. :)

bieniek
02-09-2013, 01:28 AM
nice polishing job! what was the process?

Cheers ;)

Indeed I used sndpaper and then mud fron naturals.

Thinned with 1k, then polished scratches out wth binsui, and that is it, next stage was sanding with paper.
400 grit to begin with, then 800 grit, and then mud out of the fingertones [I make it on a DMT] with the 800 paper.
Then mud with a piece of wet felt.

Couldnt really tell what naturals get involved. First thing is that I never remember their names second thing is I go by the feel. Some fingerstones I have are very hard and they dont fit this soft soft cladding, but I have something softer and sandey I used, and one other similar in looks to my ohira [one of the few I remembered :D]

You basically want to polish up to the matte you like with a different combinations. This now looks little bit to light for me, but soon patina covers it anyway

Patatas Bravas
02-09-2013, 02:15 AM
Thank you for your description Bieniek and it's very nice work. I would like this knife to buy if I hadn't got one already. I think I had sent you a PM before as you seem a good polisher with knives.

Some people suggest fingerstones for polishing and Bieniek said that he uses the mud of fingerstones. Does anyone use the fingerstones directly on the blade? I haven't got any fingerstones but I am curious how I can use.

Cheers!

bieniek
02-10-2013, 02:40 PM
Thanks man. Too kind of you I strongly believe that its easy if you pay enough attention and try hard.

You can use fingerstnes on a blade. Problem starts when you try that on machine polished/buffed blades on which sides are appearing to be flat yet when you polish with fingerstones, they reveal all the ugly uneveness.

I prefer to just use mud cause its harder to damage what youve already done.
I dont care whats more traditional in Japan and if I should wear a kimono. My goal is the finish on the blade. :whistling:

Patatas Bravas
02-10-2013, 02:44 PM
What is your technique using the mud? Do you use cloth, or a cork, or maybe rubber foam to follow the blade contours?

bieniek
02-10-2013, 02:54 PM
I use a piece of sand paper/felt and my finger, most often thumb.

mainaman
02-10-2013, 03:20 PM
Some people suggest fingerstones for polishing and Bieniek said that he uses the mud of fingerstones. Does anyone use the fingerstones directly on the blade? I haven't got any fingerstones but I am curious how I can use.

Cheers!a good finger stone should make mud as well, the mud is what does the polishing.

bieniek
02-10-2013, 03:30 PM
+1

Patatas Bravas
02-10-2013, 03:35 PM
Cheers, guys

Patatas Bravas
02-14-2013, 03:26 PM
Hello again

I had a go. It's my old Shigefusa and this time I was trying more natural stone sturry on my papers for rubbing and it's a nice result I think. Before I had some nasty scratches because of thinning but now it looks like a new one do you think?

13254

bieniek
02-14-2013, 05:03 PM
Whats on the pic looks good ;)

Patience a careful observation.

don
02-14-2013, 08:05 PM
Looks fantastic. Nicely done.

panda
05-29-2013, 03:52 AM
are you still interested in swap for a 240 shig? i just bought the latest 240 on BST and would prefer a 270 length.

Bill13
05-29-2013, 10:04 AM
panda,

If you decide to sell your 240 shig let me know:D

wilburh
05-29-2013, 01:37 PM
I don't love to do anything that takes time and patience. Plenty of time - no patience. The only reason I mentioned time is that it's always involved with patience.

Try polishing with a Black and Decker "Mouse" sander (vibratory), a piece of felt and your favorite polishing media. Finish with some automotive 'glazing' compound. I found those ceramic cooktop cleaning pads to be excellent along with some polishing compound. They look dangerously like a Scotch pad but are 100 times less aggressive.