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    Yeh the days of the 50-60 foot wooden hulls is past.In Kona as you said deep water right off shore,Mauna Loa is so huge blocks alot of the tradewinds & can be realatively calm. at sea.

    Off the Waianae coast on Oahu,launching out of Pokai bay,at times you can be in rough seas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithsaltydog View Post
    Charter boats have gotten very expensive,many have gone out of business on Oahu.The Kona coast on the big Island is still the main fleet in Hawaii.When the yellowfin run,many small trailered boats(we call them puddlejumpers)head out to sea,looking for piles of birds & a hookup.Dragging lures wt. Pen Senator or International reels.Rock & Roll seas in a small boat,high adventure
    Even on larger boats it can be an adventure. We had a 58' Jarret Bay that got drilled by lightning on the humps off Islamorada going after Black fin and another day we went from calm seas to massive swells in less than an hour and had to dodge a water spout on the way in. Twin 1100 HP Detroits kickin tires and lighten fires on that one. We finally gave up on the keys when our hotel got hit by a tornado. I figured the big guy was trying to me something. I've got old hi-8mm video of that I need to get transferred to DVD.
    I've never fished out of Kona. We tried to hook up with Norm Issacs there in the past but got stuck in a AA non strike or sick out or what ever they called it.
    As much as I like the OBX the Tuna catch there has really changed over the last few years.
    I'm not sure what to make of a Bluefin-Yellowfin hybrid but we have some strange hybrids here as well like Splake.
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    You are correct. Now is it the time of 75-85 foot wooden hulls. Google Rybovich, Whiticar, Merritt, Bayliss, etc.. When peopel talk about fishing in Hawaii, they talk about how quickly the bottom drops out from under you pretty close offshore.
    Quote Originally Posted by keithsaltydog View Post
    Yeh the days of the 50-60 foot wooden hulls is past.In Kona as you said deep water right off shore,Mauna Loa is so huge blocks alot of the tradewinds & can be realatively calm. at sea.

    Off the Waianae coast on Oahu,launching out of Pokai bay,more often than not you can be in rough seas.

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    Dave the Hump can be a funny place. When the seas are a bit frisky as they are want to be in the winter, you can have a line of breakers on the downcurrent side that do not move. i think they call it the "backflip". Also, anytime the wind is clwoing agdsint the current, take whatever NOAA is prdictig for regular seas and mutliply that by at least 1.5 and that is what you are likely to see in the stream. With that said, the Florida Straits are a lot more friendly and easy to get home from that 100 miles off shore in the northern Gulf of Mexico or, I suspect 40-50 miles off of Oregon Inlet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Duckfat View Post
    Even on larger boats it can be an adventure. We had a 58' Jarret Bay that got drilled by lightning on the humps off Islamorada going after Black fin and another day we went from calm seas to massive swells in less than an hour and had to dodge a water spout on the way in. Twin 1100 HP Detroits kickin tires and lighten fires on that one. We finally gave up on the keys when our hotel got hit by a tornado. I figured the big guy was trying to me something. I've got old hi-8mm video of that I need to get transferred to DVD.
    I've never fished out of Kona. We tried to hook up with Norm Issacs there in the past but got stuck in a AA non strike or sick out or what ever they called it.
    As much as I like the OBX the Tuna catch there has really changed over the last few years.
    I'm not sure what to make of a Bluefin-Yellowfin hybrid but we have some strange hybrids here as well like Splake.

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    I've no experience to speak of in the Gulf but this far my luck has held for the OBX. The worst part on that run on a rough day that I've seen is getting in Oregon inlet. It's been several years since we've fished Fl and we've started to talk about it again. No more Feb trips though! LOL
    Don't you guys have some good grouper/snapper fishing over your way?
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    You spend enough time in the ocean,you can run into some heavy seas & storms.Islamorada that's in the Florida Keys.There is alot of History in those waters.

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    OBX Oregon Inlet.is that outer banks North Carolina?We do not have Bluefin or blackfin here,too warm for blues,& blkfin only in Atlantic.You have Mahi Mahi out there yes.Good eating fish fun to catch & beautiful colors when just out of the water.

    We have great tasting snappers.Onaga & Opakapaka.We used to bottom fish for them on the penquin banks off Molokai at night.1970-73 worked charter boat Kamome 53 ft. Haole Sampan.Had high bow sampan hull & cabin cruiser top wt below & topside controls.Great Hawaiian water boat twin GM diesels,two props.Went to Kona every yr. for billfish tour.Fished Kaula rock off Niihau,mostly Oahu and Molokai.

    After that Line cook at Nick's Fish Market at night,started my kitchen career,later when I started working Hotels,met a couple cooks over the yrs. who like fishing & had trailered boats.That's good fun too.

    Do you guys go on shared charters on your trips?Are you out there more than one day?What type fishing,bait,catch.Shoots you got me thinking about fishing,it's cool yeh off topic threads.

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    Keith, Oregon is an inlet that was formed by a hurricane a good while back and it is rather treacherous from what we are told. The good news is that it is the closest inlet to the drop in the Outer Banks. You are right about blackfin. They are a warm water Altantic, Gulf and Caribbean only fish that is very tasty when fresh but it does not travel AT ALL, so it has no real commercial value. We have some big yellowfin in the Gulf and offshore in Florida, etc, but you have to go WAY offshore to find them. They tend to be found around the oil rigs in the Gulf and on the other side of the Gulf Stream north of the Bahama Bank. The bluefin spawn in the Gulf, but they cannot be targeted there. Tradtionally, they were fished when they came up into the shallows around Bimini and Cat Cay in the Bahamas on their way north. Of late, they have been targeted up in the Outer Banks, but closer in that you would look for marlin. You can keep one trophy sized bluefin per boat per year in the Gulf, but that assumes you can prevent the fish from stripping all of the line from your 80-13- pound reel as it sounds for the bottom. That is supposedly the problem with them off of the Keys. They migrate between Cuba and the Keys, but we never see them and only see the odd yellowfin. They aprraprently move fast and deep and the only time you see a bluefin caught in that part of the world is when one get hooked by a "buoy boat" or longliner. Traditionally, you needed to try to catch bluefin in shallow places like Bimini/Cat Cay, Cape Cod or Nova Scotia when they came up into shallower water to feed. That way you could chase them sideways with your boat instead of watching them dive to 2000 feet and strip all of the line from your reel. Some of those old boats that were made to chase bluefin tuna on the flats of Bimini and Cat Cay are now used to chased BIG marlin and other pelagics in Kona. The world famous 42 Merritt Black Bart, now the Huntress, the 37 Rybovich Sassy Lady, now Humdinger and the 37 Merritt Northern Lights were originally designed in the 50's and 60's to chase tuna in the Bahamas and have been fishing Kona for a LONG time, going on 40 years in the case of Huntress.
    Quote Originally Posted by keithsaltydog View Post
    OBX Oregon Inlet.is that outer banks North Carolina?We do not have Bluefin or blackfin here,too warm for blues,& blkfin only in Atlantic.You have Mahi Mahi out there yes.Good eating fish fun to catch & beautiful colors when just out of the water.

    We have great tasting snappers.Onaga & Opakapaka.We used to bottom fish for them on the penquin banks off Molokai at night.1970-73 worked charter boat Kamome 53 ft. Haole Sampan.Had high bow sampan hull & cabin cruiser top wt below & topside controls.Great Hawaiian water boat twin GM diesels,two props.Went to Kona every yr. for billfish tour.Fished Kaula rock off Niihau,mostly Oahu and Molokai.

    After that Line cook at Nick's Fish Market at night,started my kitchen career,later when I started working Hotels,met a couple cooks over the yrs. who like fishing & had trailered boats.That's good fun too.

    Do you guys go on shared charters on your trips?Are you out there more than one day?What type fishing,bait,catch.Shoots you got me thinking about fishing,it's cool yeh off topic threads.

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    Keith, Onaga and Opakapaka are delicous. I like Ono a lot as well although I've never manged to boat one. We have shared charters with friends/family in the past but I've never booked a make up charter. In the OBX we usually do a full day. Charters are a lot less $$$ in the keys so there we used to do multiple days. I have to say I do love the keys but it has a lot more to do with nostalgia than fishing. I think we saw what was left of the authentic keys in the 80's and 90's. My favorite places there have all been bought out and taken over by chains. Speaking of snappers fried Yellowtail snapper is delicous as well. Add a slice of Key lime pie and I'm a happy camper.
    OBX is indeed the Outer Banks. In the summer Mahi schoolies are plentiful and it's fairly easy to limit out. They are good eating. Mahi picks up the flavor of just about any seasoning or marinade but on that charter it's more of a by-catch. When we go there I'm after Big eye. We did hook up a Marlin this year that was estimated @ 400#.
    You guys have Big eye in Hawaii don't you? I like the fat content better than Yellowfin. Seared Big Eye belly to me tasts like prine steak.
    ******* Don't you have some good snapper/grouper fishing in your area? I lived in Fl several years but never got very familiar with that side of the state. I did go Tarpon fishing once off Sanibel but that was a long time ago.
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    Ono we used steel liter they bite thru the mono.Used to catch alot at Kaula Rock.Yes Hi. has Bigeye,it is similar to Yellowfin in looks & size.Bigeye has larger head & bigeye.And The fat content is more to the expert who can tell the difference.

    Snappers I like steamed Chinese style,like to fry up fish as well,thats good on camping trips.Janice & I both like Salmon.I cook the fish in a Skillet on high to brown & crust the outside,then turn down heat,remove asa the middle is done.Use diff sauces for salmon,she likes my roasted garlic lemon butter caper sauce.

    The Kamome was a good Ahi boat,On charters we used 300# test on outriggers,80# on courner poles,50# stern poles.The best strike I saw was crusing thru a pile of high flyers & diving birds off Waianae Oahu,both outriggers & both courner poles went off within seconds of each other all with 180-200+ lb. yellowfin tuna.

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