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    Difference between Zwilling Four Star and Four Star II? (Buying advice)

    Hello everyone! I'm about to buy my first knife set!!! I found two very good offers for a block set, I need help to decide:

    -Zwilling Four Star 10 pieces block, 258€ (original price 459€): 4" pairing knife, 2 3/4" parer/boner knife, 5" serrated utility knife, 8" carving knife, 8" chef knife, 7" carving fork, 8" bread knife, 10" steel, 8" kitchen shears, wood block

    -Zwilling Four Star II 8 pieces block, 219€ (original price 369€): 4" pairing knife, 5" serrated utility knife, 6" sandwich knife, 8" chef knife, 8" bread knife, 9" steel (lower quality), 8" kitchen shears (lower quality), wood block

    If the series was exactly the same there's no doubt the 10 pieces block would be the best offer. My indecision comes from the fact that I don't know what difference is there between the Four Star series and the updated Four Star II. From what I read on the internet the only difference is the steel capsule at the end of the handle, which is supposed to improve weight and balance. If that's the only difference I think the 10 pieces set is still the best choice... Or not? Are there any more differences? Which set do you suggest (between these two, I'm on a budget and where I live these are the only good offers)?

    Thank you for your feedback!

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    Senior Member Crothcipt's Avatar
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    is your heart set on Zwilling? There is better options out there if you will look at other makers, and not at a set. Most of the time there is only 2-3 knives used out of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crothcipt View Post
    is your heart set on Zwilling? There is better options out there if you will look at other makers, and not at a set. Most of the time there is only 2-3 knives used out of them.
    Not necessarily, but I'm on a budget and these two are the best offers I found, and I would be using all the knives from the sets. I know there are better makers/knives, but these series should be quite good, and would give me more bang for the buck (price/quality+number of knives).
    What do you suggest? Wusthof? Shun? I'm new at this...

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    Welcome to the forum!

    Quote Originally Posted by Crothcipt View Post
    is your heart set on Zwilling? There is better options out there if you will look at other makers, and not at a set. Most of the time there is only 2-3 knives used out of them.
    Remember: You're a unique individual...just like everybody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwiefel View Post
    Welcome to the forum!

    Thank you! Are Zwilling knives actually that bad? I read good reviews on them. What brands and lines do you suggest? I was looking into this two sets because I'm on a budget, and these seem to have a good price-quality ratio. I know they're not top notch, but they're still very good knives (or at least I thought so) and almost at half price. I would get an entire set at the price of one Shun and since I like changing knives while I'm cooking I know I would use them. I'm definitely gonna buy something better in the future, but wouldn't one of these sets be a good start?

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    You may do almost everything with a gyuto and a peeler. Some people want a bread knife as well. If you often have specific, specialised tasks, you may consider other, more specialised knives, e.g. a boning knife.
    A set of some $200 to 250 will give you a lot of steel for your money but poor performance. Have an inexpensive Japanese chef knife, two whetsones and a peeler and you're much better off.
    And learn sharpening.
    The Zwilling are soft, too thick, too heavy and too expensive. And the profile is ... inadequate.

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    If you are considering a set of soft metal knives, I'd look at Mundial. Why pay for the german hype?
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    the problem you will find is that your knives will be dull in no time. Also they will be thick. As in the case with most German style knives. As far as needing a set well out of all those knives you only need 2. A good pairing knife will take care of a bread knife and a parer. Even then you can use a chef knife for that usually.

    I would recommend filling out this.
    http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/sh...should-you-buy

    also welcome. Most company's that are big will have cheaper ways of doing production and giving you not as good of a knife you will want.

    What country are you located also so others will also chime in to what they have found.
    Chewie's the man.

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    1st, don't buy a set.

    2nd, what exactly is your budget? I think you may be surprised at what you can afford.

    3rd, buy Japanese, and not Shun. They are way overpriced for their performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by banana joe View Post
    Thank you! Are Zwilling knives actually that bad?
    They aren't bad...they are tanks though. They are designed for people who don't actually care about performance or proper care for cutlery. If that describes you, then they are the knives for you. If not, keep reading

    There are MUCH better performers for the same $$. Provided you take some time to understand what they are, I think you can get a lot of joy out of them. I'll leave it to the vastly more knowledgable folks on the forum to make specific recommendations...do please fill out the form that Crothcipt suggested:

    http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/sh...should-you-buy

    Several people will provide suggestions based on the parameters you set.

    Also, I can't recommend the YouTube Channel for Japanese Knife Imports enough...they cover a lot of the inventory that JKI carries, as well as sharpening techniques, knife care, etc. Even if you select something from another vendor, Jon's way of presenting his inventory will help you to understand what to look for and how to look for it.

    http://www.youtube.com/feed/UCpgJbCAVxzDHKaKYeuGYyOA

    Hope this helps!
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