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    Quote Originally Posted by Blobby View Post
    Now that's what I call good advice. This site is called the kitchenknifeforum not the j-knifepuristsociety.
    ... another in a long series of 72 brilliant posts.

    Moving on:


    Here's the article I mentioned about the different types of Sab's:
    http://www.cheftalk.com/t/57355/whic...abatier-anyway

    bottom line: make sure that they are made in France. Based on the other optional sets and the price range of those knives, I'm guessing that the Sabs on offer are Chinese junk like the rest of them.
    Not to be a "knife snob", but I feel like messing with crap is a waste of time: in anything you do, not just knives. Good or, at the minimum, "not bad" tools are important. Very few people (arguably none) really NEED a $1000+ honyaki j-blade or custom, but pretty much everyone, regardless of skill and experience can benefit from 1, half-way decent knife in the 210-240mm range costing around $100... an NO, it doesn't have to be Japanese. I don't know if any of the sets that you mentioned have $100 worth of ebay value, but they will at least get you part of the way there... and that, to me, makes more sense in messing with a set that's just going to frustrate you until you finally give up and buy a better knife anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gic View Post
    I don't agree: if I was a poor student again or was recommending knives to a poor student, I would buy a Forschner/Victorinox "starter: set." You could get all the knives you need to get started for the same price as a Tojiro DP Gyuto, no??

    Just checking online I see that a Victorinox "starter set" consisting of a"

    4-inch Paring Knife
    8-inch Chef
    8 in Bread Knife

    runs under $65

    A 8" Tojiro DP Gyuto alone runs about $80
    That 8" Victorinox is not a bad knife at all, but unless the paring and bread knife are needed right away, why not save the extra money and put it towards something better when the time/need comes for it? If your budget is that tight, then that's all the more reason to not but anything that you don't actually need.
    "I gotta tell ya, this is pretty terrific. Ha hahaha, YEAH!" - Moe (w/ 2 knives). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVt4U...layer_embedded

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomchakabowwow View Post
    i wouldnt buy a set. annoying the storage block counts as 1 piece. come on! do a bit of research and buy ONE knife for now. a 10" chef knife. (i'm not a chef, only a home cook). the members here on this forum are downright fanatical. they name knives i've never heard of..i have been googling ever since joining, just to see pictures of knives.

    my 1st knife was a wustof 10" classic chef knife. it is still with me, and i have done unmentionable things with it. i keep it razor sharp and it never lets me down. it is my go-to knife.

    IMHO..you "really" only need a few blades to survive in a kitchen. besides the chef's. you need a paring knife, a boning knife..and a bread knife. oh, killer kitchen scissors are wonderful to have..(think cutting chives)

    hope this helps.
    He's getting a free set...his choice.

    I do agree, get whatever you can sell for the most on the bay, take that money and buy something nice.
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    duh..my reading comprehension kung fu is a apparently at "white belt"..hahha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin0505 View Post
    ... another in a long series of 72 brilliant posts.
    Wow.....don't know the man from a bar of soap. Sure, I'll admit it was a clumsy use of words but given the tone of your response to the OP you've just proven the point.


    Quote Originally Posted by Justin0505 View Post
    .......I'm guessing that the Sabs on offer are Chinese junk like the rest of them..........
    You haven't got a clue what he's proposing to buy but they're junk anyhow and for good measure the rest of them are too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin0505 View Post
    .......Not to be a "knife snob", but I feel like messing with crap is a waste of time......
    This one really speaks for itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin0505 View Post
    .........a set that's just going to frustrate you until you finally give up and buy a better knife anyway.
    So does this one. Nice way to make somebody feel really welcome!

    I'd say on the whole you're CEO of the j-knife snobbery club.

    Actually in my first post here on this site I mentioned that this site caters almost exclusively for high end knife buyers and a few months later and after 73 posts I can't really conclude otherwise. I guess it goes with the territory but it's also full of opinionated, blinkered and with few exceptions pretty boring people. What a waste of time and space!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blobby View Post
    Wow.....don't know the man from a bar of soap. Sure, I'll admit it was a clumsy use of words but given the tone of your response to the OP you've just proven the point.




    You haven't got a clue what he's proposing to buy but they're junk anyhow and for good measure the rest of them are too.



    This one really speaks for itself.



    So does this one. Nice way to make somebody feel really welcome!

    I'd say on the whole you're CEO of the j-knife snobbery club.

    Actually in my first post here on this site I mentioned that this site caters almost exclusively for high end knife buyers and a few months later and after 73 posts I can't really conclude otherwise. I guess it goes with the territory but it's also full of opinionated, blinkered and with few exceptions pretty boring people. What a waste of time and space!

    If any of that was relevant or more than just a bunch of hack-up partial quotes and flailing about angrily, then I'd respond. But as it is, it's not even worth making fun of you. Perhaps an admin should wipe up some of the spittle so the adults can get back to discussing the OP...
    "I gotta tell ya, this is pretty terrific. Ha hahaha, YEAH!" - Moe (w/ 2 knives). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVt4U...layer_embedded

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    I'll second the recommendation to look at BDL's post on Sabatier. There are so many lines/brands that (legally) use the name Sabatier, it can be confusing. If the set available to you isn't a good line, then you may not want any of those free sets.

    Just curious--how are you getting your choice for free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blobby View Post
    This site is called the kitchenknifeforum not the j-knifepuristsociety.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blobby View Post
    Actually in my first post here on this site I mentioned that this site caters almost exclusively for high end knife buyers and a few months later and after 73 posts I can't really conclude otherwise. I guess it goes with the territory but it's also full of opinionated, blinkered and with few exceptions pretty boring people. What a waste of time and space!

    This site caters to people who want to discuss the best kitchen knives available. When not so great knives get mentioned they get noted for what they are and often recommendations are given for something better. Maybe that's not the best thing that could happen but when people are passionate about something they tend to want to share and enlighten others.

    I'm sorry that the level of discussion and membership roles aren't up to the quality that you hoped to find yet I feel that it's good for you to have recognized this early on so that you will not have wasted anymore time (here) than you have already.

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    Camaro, any chance that you have the option of a set of Shun's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blobby View Post
    Wow.....don't know the man from a bar of soap. Sure, I'll admit it was a clumsy use of words but given the tone of your response to the OP you've just proven the point.




    You haven't got a clue what he's proposing to buy but they're junk anyhow and for good measure the rest of them are too.



    This one really speaks for itself.



    So does this one. Nice way to make somebody feel really welcome!

    I'd say on the whole you're CEO of the j-knife snobbery club.

    Actually in my first post here on this site I mentioned that this site caters almost exclusively for high end knife buyers and a few months later and after 73 posts I can't really conclude otherwise. I guess it goes with the territory but it's also full of opinionated, blinkered and with few exceptions pretty boring people. What a waste of time and space!

    You're the first person in all my time here and at the previous forums to make a post like this. Congratulations. For the record, it's not called the fivedollarkitchenknifeforums either. Just sayin.
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