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    Ever thought about a kiritsuke tip?

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    That line actually helps a lot. I know it's not my thread but thanks. That's helpful when I have to do this eventually

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThEoRy View Post
    Here's a little bit better idea of what needs removal. Still this is by no means exact but a basic guideline.

    Attachment 13383

    It is a good bit of removal still but keeps the profile basically the same.
    I didn't see these graphics before...very helpful, thanks Rick!

    Any thoughts on the suggestion of a Kiritsuke tip?
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    It would make it look different!

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    I've done a few tips, but nothing nearly as bad as this. So, here is a question for you all. Would it be better to fix the bevel and take out the large chips before even trying to fix the tip by grinding the spine? It seems that it would make it easier, at least for me, to see what the final shape would end up as. Or would it be better to switch back and forth as you work, sort of making the 2 meet in the middle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwiefel View Post
    I didn't see these graphics before...very helpful, thanks Rick!

    Any thoughts on the suggestion of a Kiritsuke tip?

    My old shun is fairly thick toward the spine, affording it quite a small amount of tip flex and a large amount of toughness. Turning this into a kiritsuke tip would require you to take all the stability away from the new formed tip by grinding the spine down to meet the thin bevel. If this person already broke off the "thicker" tip, imagine what he would do to a kiritsuke tip.
    Just my thought, but I will defer to those with more knowledge than myself.

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    The 0701 pictured is shun's version of a petty, 150mm. I own one just like it - without the chips. The only thing mine does well is trim silverskin from beef and pork loins. Being stainless I also use it on citrus and tomatoes if I don't have a knife handy. A new one is 100 bucks from amazon.

    That said I would pass on the repair unless you're looking for a project. It would require way too much time and stone wear for a knife that at best would have limited application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwrightthruya View Post
    Turning this into a kiritsuke tip would require you to take all the stability away from the new formed tip by grinding the spine down to meet the thin bevel. If this person already broke off the "thicker" tip, imagine what he would do to a kiritsuke tip.
    One of the advantages of a kiritsuke tip - beside simplicity and edge saving - is its strength. It's a easy way to at least double the angle between spine and edge. The old angle was probably some 20-30 degree, I would put a 60 degree kiritsuke tip on it.

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    Can you explain the logic/geometry to me? The only kiritsuke style gyuto I have is a Yoshikane. It has a much thinner tip than its "Standard" Shaped counterpart.

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    As always, it depends. You may have a kiritsuke tip of 30 degree, or one of 70 degree. A kiritsuke tip is not stronger or weaker than another one. I gave a few other reasons, but I can't agree, if one states a kiritsuke tip is weaker in se.

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