Ha ! yeah wording was a bear to explain this.. This stems from someone asking me to heat a fish stock longer cause it didn't taste bad yet. (plus he was using fatty fish not suited for it) So I tried to think of something I made that tasted bad to make something taste good and came up blank. Then I thought of pre-made stuff and came up with 'fish sauce' and anchovy paste. Yeah they would taste bad 'raw' but a couple drops in something would bring out great flavors. I was hoping to see if anyone had something else like it.