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    Folks talk about the consistent bevels and what not. What about these knives that were ground unevenly so that the blades face is uneven and as a result youre bevel will never be straight all the way through. What about the blades that are thick? Sure enough you can sharpen the edge well, but is that really all tht matters?

    So a good sharpener imho is a guy with enough experience to properly evaluate each blade and being honest with himself about what needs to be done [and not looking at the time spent/money he charges], and looks to the story of the blade.
    Does the blade require thinning? Does it require polishing? What about handle? Straightness, steel, purpose, owner, use, quality all make difference, to me. Maybe not in the effort put but result expected.

    Just the edge achieved is not even close to being the most important.

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    This thread's weirding me out a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bieniek View Post
    Folks talk about the consistent bevels and what not. What about these knives that were ground unevenly so that the blades face is uneven and as a result youre bevel will never be straight all the way through. What about the blades that are thick? Sure enough you can sharpen the edge well, but is that really all tht matters?

    So a good sharpener imho is a guy with enough experience to properly evaluate each blade and being honest with himself about what needs to be done [and not looking at the time spent/money he charges], and looks to the story of the blade.
    Does the blade require thinning? Does it require polishing? What about handle? Straightness, steel, purpose, owner, use, quality all make difference, to me. Maybe not in the effort put but result expected.

    Just the edge achieved is not even close to being the most important.
    This is exactly what I was getting at! Thanks!

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    I feel like sharpening is very over thought. I hope guys don't take this the wrong way, but a good sharpener maintains the original profile, except when a change is needed, and puts on an appropriate edge for the tasks at hand. They can also thin a knife properly, when it is needed. That's it, in my mind.

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    While we're at in, can someone describe what "thinning" is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boots View Post
    What's the '3-finger test' by the way? Not familiar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravy Power View Post
    While we're at in, can someone describe what "thinning" is?
    In short‎, removing metal from the shinogi line down to the top of the primary bevel!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cclin View Post
    Thanks Charles, I've actually been wondering since the old forum what the test was, but its always slipped my mind to ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravy Power View Post
    While we're at in, can someone describe what "thinning" is?
    As you sharpen, the knife gets progressively thicker, and a relief bevel needs to be ground to restore performance. This illustration is from a good sharpening article by Chad Ward, http://forums.egullet.org/topic/2603...nd-sharpening/



    Note that many knives come OOTB needing to be thinned.

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