oiling board with wanlut oil, do i need to worry about patron allergies?

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I've been oiling my Boardsmith board with edible walnut oil I bought from Krogers. I wonder if I have to worry about customer's allergies?

Andy
 
I would worry about it, you know how people are now days. Also, what about it going rancid?
 
Isn't getting away from fossil fuels or byproducts a good thing in general?

if every single person on earth who oils a cutting board switched, i doubt it would make the tiniest iota of a difference.
 
I refuse to use mineral oil to oil any of my wood boards. REFUSE REFUSE REFUSE!!!!
 
By the way, I admire the 'refuse' stance on mineral oil even though I admit that's what I've got too. Not so sure if much attention is given to wider issues like this on KKF, we're so into our knives. Someone commented that if all the people who use mineral oil for boards in the world stopped it wouldn't make one iota of difference. Yet, on the other hand there's concern for things like the tiny possibility of a cutting board with grapeseed oil causing an allergic reaction with a customer. I'm sure if we all used grapeseed oil it wouldn't make much difference to diners. Both issues may be important.

True!
 
practically any natural oil you can think of can be allergic. just gotta find one that's the least allergic of the bunch.

i've even checked linseed oil and i've found that that too can make certain people have allergic reactions.

linseed oil is from flax seeds and is food safe. might be a cheaper option.

tung oil is another good option, takes forever to cure (the pure stuff!), and again can cause allergic reactions for people with nut allergies.


i find it odd that in my country barely anyone i know has any food allergies. only folks that i do know that do are pure caucasian or part caucasian or something or other.
 
I would stick with mineral oil and beeswax. The chance of an allergic reaction is very small, but it's possible. I'd rather eliminate it as a potential worry.
 
also googled bee's wax, also can be potentially allergic.

everything's freakin' allergic. too many worries. sheesh.
 
i've met germans, americans, french, spanish, belgian, scottish, australian, canadian, and probably a few others i can't remember. been to the US, Mexico, China, Hongkong and Thailand.

sorry to say but the most allergy phobic people i've met are, well, americans.

the ones i've met that have food allergies the most are americans, germans and the spanish. (or at least say they are, i've read that some folks just say they're allergic to something but only claim that so they don't get to eat it coz they don't want it in their food)

i too have allergies, but it's not food related. antibiotics and dust.

not trying to ruffle any feathers here but these are just observations.

ok i'll shut up now. getting OT.
 
There is a kind of "culture of pride" around things like this in America these days. People adopt these things into their identity.
 
I'm sure there's plenty of exaggeration and misplaced anxiety, but the rise of food allergies is pretty well documented, and not entirely imaginary. I've got a friend (South Asian, btw, not anglo), whose daughter is fatally allergic to LOTS of stuff, tree nuts included. It's not imaginary -- I've seen her in the hospital. Of course, even 20 years ago, she wouldn't have lived a month, so she wouldn't have shown up on the allergy statistics at all. (And no, her parents don't expect to ever take her into a restaurant -- they do everything they can to deal with it themselves.)

If someone is paying me to cook, and it's easy to substitute out a different product, I'll do it. I don't think a commercial kitchen is a place to make a political stand about "hysteria", esp. when there are enough real cases, and it costs nothing to accommodate.
 
there have been a lot of studies of the rise of food related allergies over the past few decades and they say it's probably from a few things that's been introduced into our food system and medical system around the same time the rise of food allergies has been going up.

they say these are from probably from the following:

pesticides and or other chemicals
hormones, antibiotics into our food
vaccinations, some view this as necessary and and others certain ones unnecessary
gmo products
food like substances replacing actual food

this is according to some research that i've been following for a couple years, only saying what has been said on these articles


i also remarked about some people saying that they're just flat out lying about what they're really allergic to just so they don't get to have it in their bodies...

it's coz of all these darn diets that have been coming out. lol.

again just an observation

ok i'll REALLY shut up now. final comment.
 
I'm sure there's plenty of exaggeration and misplaced anxiety, but the rise of food allergies is pretty well documented, and not entirely imaginary. I've got a friend (South Asian, btw, not anglo), whose daughter is fatally allergic to LOTS of stuff, tree nuts included. It's not imaginary -- I've seen her in the hospital. Of course, even 20 years ago, she wouldn't have lived a month, so she wouldn't have shown up on the allergy statistics at all. (And no, her parents don't expect to ever take her into a restaurant -- they do everything they can to deal with it themselves.)

If someone is paying me to cook, and it's easy to substitute out a different product, I'll do it. I don't think a commercial kitchen is a place to make a political stand about "hysteria", esp. when there are enough real cases, and it costs nothing to accommodate.

Don't disagree with any of that.
 
there have been a lot of studies of the rise of food related allergies over the past few decades and they say it's probably from a few things that's been introduced into our food system and medical system around the same time the rise of food allergies has been going up.

they say these are from probably from the following:

pesticides and or other chemicals
hormones, antibiotics into our food
vaccinations, some view this as necessary and and others certain ones unnecessary
gmo products
food like substances replacing actual food

this is according to some research that i've been following for a couple years, only saying what has been said on these articles

[citation needed]
 
as requested:

http://www.voanews.com/content/pesticide-suspected-in-rising-food-allergy-cases/1560760.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2242094/Chlorine-tap-water-linked-increase-number-people-developing-food-allergies.html

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/08/03/food.allergies.er.gut/index.html

http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/04/pesticides-in-tap-water-produce-linked-to-food-allergies/

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_5296.cfm

all these chemicals and stuff put into our food can't be good for us.

if you check vaccine components which are listed on the CDC's website for each vaccine, they have MERCURY and many many other poisonous components included. they even have monkey brains as part of some vaccines, that just sets off alarms in my head. i'm no scientist or immunologist but i don't think it'd be good for you.
 
I've had environmental allergies of various sorts all my life (hay fever, mold, etc.), but have never had any real food problems. One of my brothers goes into anaphylaxis if he eats crab, and raw shrimp make my hands itch, but that's about it. Well, in the past couple of years, scrambled eggs make me nauseous, which is a bummer because I really like a good omelette. Not really an allergy -- just a relatively mild digestive insensitivity.

It's a hard thing to sort out -- there are many factors, and the signal/noise ratio for diagnosis is probably pretty poor. I've read about lots of factors, too -- and I've heard more than one doctor say that one sure way to get food allergies statistics back down to where they were a generation or two back would be to let a bunch of kids with them die. Seriously. There's a reason why you don't hear much about food allergies in the developing world. They're not advocating this, mind you.

A lot of the food issues people deal with are due less to true allergies, and more to digestive problems. Researchers know even less about our gut than they do about allergies, which can at least be tested for (in most cases). There's some interesting work that suggests that one contributing factor is the prevalence of Caesarian births in the US, which short-circuits the infant's normal exposure to beneficial bacteria through the birth canal. Pretty wild, but fascinating.

A pretty good accessible article about bacteria:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/10/22/121022fa_fact_specter?currentPage=all
 
as requested:

http://www.voanews.com/content/pesticide-suspected-in-rising-food-allergy-cases/1560760.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2242094/Chlorine-tap-water-linked-increase-number-people-developing-food-allergies.html

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/08/03/food.allergies.er.gut/index.html

http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/04/pesticides-in-tap-water-produce-linked-to-food-allergies/

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_5296.cfm

all these chemicals and stuff put into our food can't be good for us.

if you check vaccine components which are listed on the CDC's website for each vaccine, they have MERCURY and many many other poisonous components included. they even have monkey brains as part of some vaccines, that just sets off alarms in my head. i'm no scientist or immunologist but i don't think it'd be good for you.

lol. this thread is done.
 
I'm as worried about chemicals as anyone, but the mercury thing is wildly overstated. I do agree that we probably don't really understand the range of interactions from the various crap we put in our bodies.
 
i have my own beliefs, and you have yours.

i would appreciate it if you would at least act your age. we are all adults here.

if you think the dribble that i have been spouting is nonsense or whatever, you could have at least done it in a better way.

i won't feed the fire anymore. i shut up now.
 

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