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    Need More Help - Distance between heel and handle

    I should probably ask how many like to put a middle finger (no punt intended) in the space between handle and heel when pitch-gripping?

    As always, thanks!

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    Senior Member Mrmnms's Avatar
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    The first joint of my index finger gently rests against the back of the heel and choil

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    A good amount for comfort, a few finger lengths.

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    I do not use a pinch grip, but my middle finger will occasionally rest in the machi area. The average handle to choil distance on my Japanese knives works well for me.

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    On knives that I studied, the distance varied between 12mm to almost 20mm. On most of my knives started doing (after a feedback suggestion) for the width of my middle finger, approximately 15-16mm. This is one part of the knife that I don't fully understand, so than you for your input.

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    Marko, I think that 15-16 mm is a good length for the emotu (neck). If it is much less than 12 mm a pinch grip becomes uncomfortable, and over 20 mm the knife feels awkward.

    As an aside, not making the emotu long enough is a major failing of many Western to wa conversions.

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    My middle finger does rest in/under/around the machi area. But my fingers are long and narrow. lanky guy that I am

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    I measured some of my knives, 14-16mm is about ideal for me. Also, having the emoto and handle about the same width helps with comfort, maybe the handle slightly wider.

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    I prefer emotu(neck) around 14~16mm, emotu length less than 12mm or over 18mm become uncomfortable for me....
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    I think I probably go for aesthetics over comfort on this one, as I like the thin, slender and long look of the Masamoto machi. Not a fan of a heavy, wide machi. Too long is rather awkward, though. I remember handling a few early Fowlers, and it felt like most of my hand was on steel...

    so, it sounds and looks like what you're doing is probably right on the button already.
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