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Thread: Wa-gyuto: Suisin Inox or Masamoto KS ?

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    I'm currently using a 240mm Suisin IH on loan from daveb. It's a phenomenal knife with a great feel. It does seem to be a bit on the petit side for a 240, but it looks and feels great and has excellent edge retention. Really nice profile and grind too. I would highly recommend it.
    I've had no experience with a KS other than a Richmond that was supposed to be similar in specs to the KS. I didn't like it, but that's probably because it was a poor representation of the style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knyfeknerd View Post
    I've had no experience with a KS other than a Richmond that was supposed to be similar in specs to the KS.
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    Personally, i like suisin. Almost all my knives are suisin, but i'm still debating to get another wa gyuto btw IH or KS, since they are in same price range. Or is there still any other options for better than these two (and cheaper)?LOL. any reccomendation? thanks.

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    I have 2 great suisins, but they are both japanese carbon steel single bevels,Yanagi & Usuba

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    Both are top notch spectacular knives, so it's a matter of what you want. Me personally, I'd start with profile. The KS is copied and imitated by many and serves as a benchmark. And while I'm not a knife historian, the leading lazers a few years ago seemed to be Suisin followed or joined closely by Tadatsuna, and those two are what the Kono HD has been competing (quite successfully) with. KSs and Suisin inoxs are the subject of many threads over on Fred's Cutlery Forum, so check the archives there. Posts by the late KC Ma are particularly informative and entertaining, and may the gods bless him.

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    I had a KS and loved it. However, it lost out to the Dragon. I swapped it for a ZKramer (maybe permanently, maybe not) and I haven't really missed the KS, despite how great it is. The ZKramer and I just click...anyways.... I haven't used Suisin, but given the choice between a KS and a laser, I'd go KS.

    With all of the posts on this thread, this is what stuck out:

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    Posts by the late KC Ma are particularly informative and entertaining, and may the gods bless him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty View Post
    I hope KC's shaving chives with Bruce Lee and Julia Child while discussing the benefits of turning a double-bevel gyuto into a single.
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    Might think about the Gesshin Ginga then...AFAICT, it's very similar to the SIH, but considerably better value.

    (I have the SIH and love it...don't have the Ginga though.)
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    Gingas share some similarities with the IH, but according to Jon, the steel and heat treat is substantially different. He won't fess up to what kind of steel they use in the Gingas, of course, just that it's different. I do wish there weren't so much mystery in the Japanese knife world. It would make it much easier to make comparisions. The Gingas are definitely easier on the wallet though, that's for certain. I don't need to know what steel is used to make that comparison.
    I have a couple of the IH knives. I like them. I like them a lot, actually. They're very fine blades. I think the easiest way to decide is to ask whether you want carbon or stainless. I can't imagine that ending up with either one would be a bad choice.

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    Thanks.

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