Yeah I do agree that it is pretty sick.. And Tristan, I can verify the third account about the venison, but my experience was with a dog. You practically walk in, go around to the back which has a huge compound housing dogs. You choose the dog you wanna eat, they bring it out, tie it to a tree by it's back legs and pummel it to death with a baseball bat. Suppose to tenderise the meat... I walked out once they tied the dog to the tree. And it was in Vietnam. I do think that we as Asians have some kind of a sadistic side to us when it comes to food. And its not only the Chinese that are doing it. The Japs do the same thing as well... I feel that eating is one thing but the process of rearing and butchering is also as important as well.