I've always liked Takeda's steel, it's the profile height I'm not a fan of. I know it's great for some guys but it's just not for me. His other profile I was fine with. I never realized how thin those knives were until I handled one and was told some were ground even thinner. I can see where flexing or remaining flexed would be a problem at that point. Still, I plan to own one someday and rehandle it.