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    How do you sharpen your microbevel?

    Recently there have been 2 very interesting videos about microbevel (or secondary bevel) (In Japan we say 糸刃 which means thread edge) sharpening.

    One is from Jon
    Microbevels- Japanese Knife Imports
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwnFrjiAA_8

    Another is from Maxim
    Shigefusa Kitaeji pity 180mm sharpening and cutting
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpnXZpICZY8

    The resulting edge would be like this for Jon.


    and this for Maxim.



    I myself make the microbevel like that I get OOTB.

    So for Shigefusa and many other double bevel knives I have I make it like Maxim.

    I have one cheap SS knife from Seki which my wife use.
    It is a double bevel Santoku and the microbevel was single bevel like that of Jon.
    I sharpen this knife like this:



    When I sharpen backside I tilt it very little to deburr.

    Would like to know how others do.
    Last edited by DrNaka; 03-03-2011 at 05:37 AM. Reason: Edit to make link for picture work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNaka View Post
    Recently there have been 2 very interesting videos about microbevel (or secondary bevel) (In Japan we say 糸刃 which means thread edge) sharpening.

    One is from Jon
    Microbevels- Japanese Knife Imports
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwnFrjiAA_8

    Another is from Maxim
    Shigefusa Kitaeji pity 180mm sharpening and cutting
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpnXZpICZY8

    The resulting edge would be like this for Jon.
    http://img819.imageshack.us/i/jonedge.jpg/

    and this for Maxim.
    http://img851.imageshack.us/i/maxinedge.jpg/

    I myself make the microbevel like that I get OOTB.

    So for Shigefusa and many other double bevel knives I have I make it like Maxim.

    I have one cheap SS knife from Seki which my wife use.
    It is a double bevel Santoku and the microbevel was single bevel like that of Jon.
    I sharpen this knife like this:

    http://img840.imageshack.us/i/myedge.jpg/

    When I sharpen backside I tilt it very little to deburr.

    Would like to know how others do.
    I would like to say i also like the way maxim does things... i also do this on some knives. Interesting thread though...

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    Jon you are fast...
    You quoted before I end editing the link.

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    I go with Jon. Flat on the Ura side, micro bevel on the bevel side.

    DarkHOEk

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNaka View Post
    Jon you are fast...
    You quoted before I end editing the link.
    haha... i just happened to be awake when this was posted. Anyways, i really think its an interesting subject and i really do believe that both ways work well depending on what kind of knife you are sharpening. I think there are different reasons for doing it though.

    For example, sometimes the edge is ground too thin and people use a microbevel to add back strength to an edge that would otherwise fail

    Sometimes you know you will be doing a particularly rough task with the knife and you want a more robust edge.

    Most professional sharpeners in Japan i've talked to use microbevels to remove any weak steel left at the edge from sharpening (what many of us refer to as the wire edge)

    i think depending on the intended purpose of the microbevel and the type of knife, you pick the style that works best.

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    sorry if this is too noob, but once you've gone through the steps, how do you know you actually have a microbevel (provided the knife is still sharp) at naked eye?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamsignals View Post
    sorry if this is too noob, but once you've gone through the steps, how do you know you actually have a microbevel (provided the knife is still sharp) at naked eye?
    microbevel doesnt meen microscopic. Mine are usually about the width of a hair along the edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBroida View Post
    microbevel doesnt meen microscopic. Mine are usually about the width of a hair along the edge.
    that i understand, but frankly i don't think i'd be able to differentiate a hairline bevel along the edge. i guess i need to try it out and see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamsignals View Post
    sorry if this is too noob, but once you've gone through the steps, how do you know you actually have a microbevel (provided the knife is still sharp) at naked eye?
    Use reflection of strong light.
    Sunshine is best but a strong lamp would do it.
    You get much more reflection than observing the edge with strong light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNaka View Post
    Use reflection of strong light.
    Sunshine is best but a strong lamp would do it.
    You get much more reflection than observing the edge with strong light.
    even without a highly polished edge. let's say a 6k edge (which is the highest grit i have)?
    -thiago

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