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    To Binsui or not to Binsui

    here's the story, Have been using my G 1K ex lg stone from Jon for a couple of months now. It's clearly a favorite, But { for me }
    it seems to be TOO soft , love the mud, but it dishes way fast. Have had to stop & diamond plate it in the middle of a knife.

    Was watching Maxim's demo of his huge & super Huge Binsui's, Saw that the swarf , while black seemed to be more water than mud.
    which i figured , that it was much harder than the Gesshin.

    Bottom line, do I buy the Binsui , to be my work horse. & use the Gesshin for light touch -up work.

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    I've been looking at this as a middle grit stone. Probably will be my next buy. I don't have any Japanese naturals and would like to give it a try. I've been curious as to why they come in such large sizes? do they wear away quickly?

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    I have a "huge" binsui from Maxim and I really like the stone. It might be my favorite coarse jnat. I need to use it with a nagura though, as it's a bit of a workout to get some slurry going if you're using just a knife. My binsui is very slow wearing and there's virtually no dishing after sharpening a handful of knives. It leaves a very nice kasumi finish on my single bevel knives and the scratch pattern seems finer than my 1200 grit stones.

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    Thank you, finally a straight forward answer! as previously stated , I was really excited to get the jumbo gesshin, and was hoping to use it as my primary work horse to thin knives.
    but it virtually dissolves before your eyes when I lean into a knife. I have a short attention span, a long session with any one stone is only about 10 minutes. and I'd have break out the
    Dia-flat to grind away the grooves.

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    for thinning, i'd look at even coarser stones... binsui is a medium grit stone

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    Oh yeah. FWIW, I had been using Jon's Gesshin 600 to flatten and even out the bevel on a yanagi and that was slow going. This week I started using Maxim's JNS 300, and that's still not going particularly fast... I wouldn't even think of doing this work on the Binsui.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSChief View Post
    but it virtually dissolves before your eyes when I lean into a knife
    Just curious why you are 'leaning into it?'
    one man gathers what another man spills...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinacats View Post
    Just curious why you are 'leaning into it?'
    That MAY have been a tad dramatic! Think moderate to firm as opposed to a very light finger touch that I use with my Naniwa Snow White & the KIT for the final mirror work

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBroida View Post
    for thinning, i'd look at even coarser stones... binsui is a medium grit stone
    How about Chosera 400 or 600: or should I think coarser

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